Post ATMLFV1tKdzjqZsmlU by hardworkingamerican@union.place
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(DIR) Post #ATLDsNDVJsdW7QNcn2 by AmishSuperModel@mastodon.social
2023-03-06T04:15:23Z
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Pro Tip: Preventing you from imposing your religious beliefs on others does NOT restrict your religious freedom.
(DIR) Post #ATLDsNj3QZsDhH8oy0 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-03-06T14:17:56Z
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@AmishSuperModelI'm an atheist but what if your religion demands that you evangelize? Especially if you believe others will suffer eternal damnation if they don't convert.
(DIR) Post #ATLGVeq9vhSxylJvxw by sadtaco@mstdn.social
2023-03-06T14:47:23Z
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@wjmaggos @AmishSuperModel You elect fascists into the government that will take away the rights of everyone who doesn't comply with their beliefs.
(DIR) Post #ATLM51mf7Ktn2lMzsu by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2023-03-06T15:49:59.929311Z
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Religions don't need a God. If we go back to what is traditionally considered a religion, Confucianism; Taoism; and some sects of Buddhism are atheistic, for example.Confucianism is particularly interesting because it's considered a religion by some and not one by others. Despite generally not including supernatural elements, it has rituals, beliefs, and practices that are similar to those found in many religious traditions.That opens the door to an interesting idea: Some people consider the most extreme examples of certain modern ideologies to be religions. Certainly there are examples of rituals, founding stories that only bear a slight resemblance to objective reality, an expression of moral systems, implementation of community controls in certain ways that are separate from the philosophical underpinnings of the movement, so there's an argument that those are religions as well.Once you're not using the language of Christianity, it opens up thinking about religions in different ways. A lot of people who would oppose church being involved in state by default might have a different way of thinking if it was an ideology they didn't have so much direct baggage with.
(DIR) Post #ATLpbNuvG8Wbcs0z0i by Cleopatra@c.im
2023-03-06T21:20:20Z
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@sj_zero @wjmaggos @AmishSuperModel You remind me a bit of this (religion can take a lot of forms, some of them very selfish and harmful)https://youtu.be/2N2LG_pkQnU
(DIR) Post #ATLqCyLOms9HJiK1lQ by Cleopatra@c.im
2023-03-06T21:27:26Z
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@wjmaggos @AmishSuperModel You'll have to find another religion 🤷(I do want to point out that very visible groups like the Jehova witnesses are considered cults by most Christians: the mainstream view is that any proselityzing should happen through acts of charity and being a good and wise person, and not by being annoying or by pressuring vulnerable people)
(DIR) Post #ATLtEd7swheVx6U1Xk by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2023-03-06T22:01:31.122431Z
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That's interesting! I'm watching the video right now.It's terrifying to think about how organizations that want to own you completely try to hack the religious circuits in the brain, whether it be workplaces or political movements. The people use calm voices and nice sounding words to hide the terrifying indoctrination.On the other hand, it also sort of makes me realize the way that these massive organizations also dominate a lot of ideas that are bigger than they are. They talk a lot in the video about "work", and it's true that your life's work can become the meaning of your life; The problem is when you have this organization taking up a monopoly of the concept of work, like if you're not working in a position they created then you're not really doing work.
(DIR) Post #ATMLFV1tKdzjqZsmlU by hardworkingamerican@union.place
2023-03-07T03:15:12Z
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@wjmaggos @AmishSuperModel That is the fundamental corruption of said faith, and people bought it then coopted it for their own authoritarian benefit. It's no different than if your religion says you should oppress people.