Post ATFd5d7ef9nBzQ6Q2C by grammargirl@zirk.us
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 (DIR) Post #ATFRb3NhsreKxPpPKi by grammargirl@zirk.us
       2023-03-03T19:23:29Z
       
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       It's often hard to define "irony," but I think this qualifies!
       
 (DIR) Post #ATFRimcq49MpJ3akvA by ichris@mastodon.social
       2023-03-03T19:24:48Z
       
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       @grammargirl <alanis.gif>
       
 (DIR) Post #ATFSXSxivszj5hWnh2 by kingkaufman@sfba.social
       2023-03-03T19:34:02Z
       
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       @grammargirl Just yesterday I was telling someone about how classes were cancelled the first week of winter quarter my freshman year of college because the river downtown flooded in a massive rainstorm. The problem on campus was ... no water service.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATFaDjViUpCsFwWtBw by leebennett@mastodon.social
       2023-03-03T21:00:02Z
       
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       @grammargirl Hrmm. Pretty sure that’s still not irony. Most of what people call “irony” is actually just coincidence.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATFd5d7ef9nBzQ6Q2C by grammargirl@zirk.us
       2023-03-03T21:32:18Z
       
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       @leebennett The definition I use is "an outcome the opposite of or contrary to what you would expect." For example, rain on your wedding day is not ironic, but rain on the wedding day of a weather forecaster who had a reputation for accurate prediction and had tried to avoid rain would be ironic.Too much snow cancelling a ski event is contrary to what I would expect.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATFetkgOvYkTs4oojY by leebennett@mastodon.social
       2023-03-03T21:52:35Z
       
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       @grammargirl I always believed there was an element of intentionality with irony. So too much snow causing a cancellation of a snow event is an act of nature and thus not irony. No one caused excess snow.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATFfX7RaEiINkzex28 by grammargirl@zirk.us
       2023-03-03T21:59:40Z
       
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       @leebennett Interesting! I don't recall ever hearing that qualification. Dictionary dot com and Merriam-Webster both have definitions that just cite "events": "an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected." I don't interpret that as needing intentionality. I would consider a big storm that deposited race-cancelling snow to be an "event."It's always hard to define irony though. The "expected" part allows an outcome to mean different things to different people.
       
 (DIR) Post #ATG16Tr10PsIQxG3Ie by misterich@mastodon.social
       2023-03-04T02:01:18Z
       
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       @grammargirl isn't this connotative of Americans, but there's not anything that denotes it?