Post ATFGdNoFnw2BOi9aDI by Judith_IP@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #ATFDUGsDvINrPvyRPs by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T14:09:11Z
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🤡Oh we're uploading charts about why teens are unhappy? And saying it's "the phones" or "the apps?"Well, let me upload my charts!Showing that:* Black kids are online *much more* than white kids.* Black kids have seen *much less* increase in depression since 2011.🙂🙃
(DIR) Post #ATFDUODkbelMCj6ERU by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T14:10:47Z
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If you ask older conservative adjacent dudes what's making teens depressed, they'll confidently tell you "smartphones and apps!"But if you ask teens what's making them depressed, they'll tell you "older conservative adjacent dudes."The racist people that used to target Black teens online, in real life, at school, at the doctor's office......have now started targeting white teens, online, in real life, at school, and at the doctor's office.Like we said they would. 🤷🏿♂️
(DIR) Post #ATFDUSu5CD08jAw5yq by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T14:11:37Z
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Picture a white teenage girl posting the following on Instagram:"Feeling blessed! I just voted for Katie Porter, because she supports reproductive rights and gun control and anti-racism! I personally don't plan to have kids. I can't afford it! And I care about the environment."
(DIR) Post #ATFDUW5XM4wibZJmka by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T14:12:21Z
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There's a good chance that she could wind up the target of several different F*x News segments or attacks by sitting politicians.I count at least 6 issues she could be attacked for, and receive online threats of violence for.Yeah, that might make her unhappy.
(DIR) Post #ATFDUdxK6V850PXL3g by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T14:12:51Z
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That's before we even get to the unhappiness from unhealthy comparison to others.If your solution for increasing her happiness is "Just don't be online!" Then I don't know what to tell you. I can't even argue with that. We're too far apart to even have a meaningful conversation.
(DIR) Post #ATFDUgsTF01w4EI0PY by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T14:13:51Z
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Yes, a Black teen girl posting that same thing to Instagram would receive the same abuse. Worse actually.But your racist F*x News watching relatives have been dishing this abuse out to Black folk since forever. It's not new to us.What's new is that the hate has now come for your kids.
(DIR) Post #ATFGdNoFnw2BOi9aDI by Judith_IP@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T17:20:12Z
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@mekkaokereke It's not the Internet, except if you are talking about the fact that the Internet is making them aware that the world is going to hell.
(DIR) Post #ATIGuwPSzvFj6aoNvc by kagan@wandering.shop
2023-03-03T14:34:09Z
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@mekkaokereke The "online" in this example pretty much means "social media" - aka, "Where people meet to communicate with others". It's like saying, "just don't participate in society!"Which, to be fair... yeah, actually, participating in this particular society *is* a large part of what's making people unhappy. But it's also not useful or remotely reasonable advice."Don't be online" is like telling someone "go be a hermit in the woods", and shouldn't be taken seriously.
(DIR) Post #ATIGuxe2PEVCw4dXHM by chrismak@mstdn.ca
2023-03-03T15:16:51Z
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@kagan @mekkaokereke I'm torn on kids (tweens and teens) and screens. On one hand, it appears they spend too much time with screentime, and certain apps may be time sucks when you think they should be interacting with the physical environment. OTOH, due to peer pressure, likely the kid that gets 'othered' and 'outcasted' in the schoolyard is likely the one that doesn't carry a smartphone.
(DIR) Post #ATIGuyFc9WYmocDXqi by kagan@wandering.shop
2023-03-03T15:56:11Z
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@chrismak @mekkaokereke I hear you on the worry about "but they're spending *so many hours* on social media!" Then I think back to my own high school years, and remember that I'd routinely spend so many hours on the phone (landline) with friends, my ear would routinely be hurting afterward from having the earpiece pressed up against it.I think "HUGE amounts of time spent building social links" is probably a natural part of teen-hood.
(DIR) Post #ATIGuyxZW5ip0wmeMi by gindi@fosstodon.org
2023-03-03T16:03:28Z
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@kagan @chrismak @mekkaokereke are kids really forming those same social links online though? It seems like a much shallower version of a human relationship. Am I wrong? I’m no longer in touch with these things….
(DIR) Post #ATIGuzS3gk6mXV2zsu by DayWalkingRedhead@universeodon.com
2023-03-03T16:22:29Z
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@gindi @kagan @chrismak @mekkaokereke Yes, you are wrong. Kids - and adults - form deep relationships with others online. Esp those of us who are marginalized. Social media is the only positive social a lot of folks get, and I can be there for someone on the phone as well as online as well as in person. You get out of it what you put into it, just like anything.
(DIR) Post #ATIGuzzjfX2yDwntNQ by gindi@fosstodon.org
2023-03-03T16:38:13Z
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@DayWalkingRedhead @kagan @chrismak @mekkaokereke thank you for that perspective. It makes a lot of sense. I never thought of it in the same light as gaming as well, since that’s definitely a comparison that I get and I most certainly formed true bonds there. I have a hard time reconciling my disdain of technology companies from the benefit some of their products might provide. Might not be the most productive mindset.
(DIR) Post #ATIGv0SnvSIbg6P6ga by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T16:46:18Z
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@gindi @DayWalkingRedhead @kagan @chrismak As someone that works at a technology company, please, keep the disdain for technology companies! 👍🏿If by "disdain" you mean a healthy skepticism whenever tech attempts to solve a social problem, and an expectation that tech companies should provide more good in the world, and should spend more time thinking about the ways that their products interact with the health and happiness of all of us, and rejecting the idea that being rich means being smart.
(DIR) Post #ATIGxiPlUJgsZKH3Gy by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T16:04:22Z
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@chrismak @kagan Yes, anything can be done too much, or done unsafely. But...2020: Kids are on their phones too much!2010: Kids are on the internet too much!2000: Kids are on their Nintendos too much!1980: Kids watch TV too much!1930: Kids listen to the radio too much!1870: Kids read too much!https://apnews.com/article/north-america-wa-state-wire-ca-state-wire-entertainment-technology-10a38154c6204b8483ae065605bf929ehttps://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/806289https://archive.nytimes.com/op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/when-novels-were-bad-for-you/
(DIR) Post #ATIGxlDp3Av7H9i3Zh by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-03-03T16:11:00Z
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@chrismak @kagan Kids today are smarter than we were (if you define smarter as having a broader and deeper working knowledge of math, science, social sciences, humanities, and the world).For those that doubt it, I present to you one humble anecdote: JFK's Harvard University application essay. And he was accepted! This... wouldn't work today.http://archives.wbur.org/hubbub/2011/01/13/jfk-harvard-application/
(DIR) Post #ATIHSJVi8AbwJ6e5PU by dawnfry@lor.sh
2023-03-04T23:48:50Z
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@chrismak @mekkaokereke @kagan I remember growing up in Higher Ed and reading the serious articles passed around academic circles claiming that Gen-X would have memory problems because we had the internet and didn’t have to remember common information. While every generation dumps on the next (there’s some fun stuff from Ancient Rome), Boomers as a generation have made it a pastime to actively and authoritatively dump on ALL of the successive generations. And since they are big and have continued to retain power, professionals have been repeating and acting on their generational bigotry for way too long. Gen-X are not slackersMillennials are not underachievers Gen Z is not selfishGen Alpha is not impatientAll of these are labels applied by Boomers to generations who have been denied the same privileges that the outsized, generally prosperous Boomer generation enjoyed. As a mid-Gen X, I am very proud of the younger generations who continue to do the best they can under oppressive circumstances. We didn’t deserve the name-calling, and they don’t either.
(DIR) Post #ATIHZg5GbM02LQmv8i by graham_knapp@hachyderm.io
2023-03-05T00:08:24Z
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@mekkaokereke @chrismak @kagan 360 BC : Plato writes that the ancient king Thamos said books would cause people to "cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks" http://websites.umich.edu/~lsarth/filecabinet/PlatoOnWriting.html
(DIR) Post #ATIHfrHDtq8SnQKNRw by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-03-05T04:16:32.993360Z
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@roboneko my brain is an L1 cache for useless x86 information@graham_knapp @mekkaokereke @clacke @chrismak @kagan