Post ATEuVHpxvaIXZAgkCm by takeitev@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #ATEIHW7YEDVTYOvAAq by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T06:04:29Z
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Bing is frighteningly good at scanning someone's social media and quickly summarizing their opinions on specific topics.
(DIR) Post #ATEIj9I4hil8r61Ftw by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T06:09:28Z
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As Bing (correctly!) indicates here, I've been mostly positive about this new technology. But I'm a little uneasy about how authoritarian governments might use this to rapidly identify dissenters from subtle cues.
(DIR) Post #ATEJSiOT2RREkzjkZc by ukuku@mstdn.social
2023-03-03T06:17:42Z
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@TedUnderwood frightening, yes.
(DIR) Post #ATEQFQNHQB92mnn75c by ggdupont@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T07:33:44Z
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@TedUnderwood but the sources are not aligned with the question: nothing from Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #ATEXjPyq9P2Nvjbnzk by rjf_berger@mathstodon.xyz
2023-03-03T08:57:35Z
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@TedUnderwood What is this "bing"?
(DIR) Post #ATEa4oDNRUcv57jh6u by elizatech@mastodon.ie
2023-03-03T09:23:52Z
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@TedUnderwood that is frightening! I do like that it includes the sources of info.
(DIR) Post #ATEkxj05WuZ0NWLRRI by deKxi@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T11:25:51Z
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@TedUnderwood I asked it what my first name was and watched it try a pretty thorough list of websites and search queries to find anywhere I might have had my name posted.It couldn't find it, but was a little scary watching it try š
(DIR) Post #ATEpxA4hsieJpV3WgS by Riedl@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T12:21:40Z
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@TedUnderwood disturbing implications, if Bing Chat can quickly categorize peopleās political beliefs, it can be used for mass surveillance by political parties (enemies lists? Targeted campaign outreach?). But also, how often will it be wrong? It would be a pain to do this manually, but would it just Cherry-pick a few posts to come to a conclusion? It canāt actually be scanning all posts by an individual.
(DIR) Post #ATEt7fl9EYWWr7bwlE by Jonathanglick@mstdn.social
2023-03-03T12:57:17Z
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@TedUnderwood good use-case
(DIR) Post #ATEtfQEvRTNAZHdGcK by JMMaok@mastodon.online
2023-03-03T13:03:23Z
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@TedUnderwood Following you on the basis of this summary.
(DIR) Post #ATEuS6QzrmGtKgUWR6 by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T13:12:08Z
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@Riedl These critiques are both separately valid, though I think we should acknowledge some destructive interference *between* themāto the extent the summary is hasty/superficial it does also become a little less āfrighteningly effective.ā
(DIR) Post #ATEuVHpxvaIXZAgkCm by takeitev@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T13:12:44Z
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@TedUnderwood @willoremus oh, ask what take it evās is
(DIR) Post #ATEvKOMnPWvgaOPhCq by Riedl@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T13:21:56Z
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@TedUnderwood destructive interference when we know what is really going on inside the model. Constructive interference if all we know is hype (or choosing intentional ignorance)
(DIR) Post #ATEvs0jXmhOz8R5Hzk by gmc@chasmcity.net
2023-03-03T13:28:03Z
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@TedUnderwood Apparently, your name is pretty unique. Ask it anything about me, and you will get complete bogus info, remixed from info about various people that share my name (there are a lot of us). I asked it to write my biography once, what a laugh.
(DIR) Post #ATEwHaJUdWwAiv5sa8 by MattHodges@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T13:32:40Z
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@TedUnderwood Story time. In 2020 we tried to DM all of Biden's followers who lived in Iowa to remind them to show up to caucus.Ā¹ Figuring out if a social user lives in a specific place is hard! (An unsolved problem in political data is matching social back to the terrestrial voter file). Most users don't geotag posts. We tried parsing strings from bios (including colloquial shorthands). Fairly poor success ā my python weirdware was no language-aware search index!Ā¹ https://mastodon.social/@MattHodges/109447885103608320
(DIR) Post #ATEx05OsPxapsZpdWC by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T13:40:45Z
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@MattHodges I wonder if LLMs could solve exactly this kind of inference problem, catching references to burger joints in Ottumwa that would elude our gazetteers and regexes
(DIR) Post #ATEzWrCCRyuHI0elEW by MattHodges@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T14:09:04Z
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@TedUnderwood Yeah, I think it's the combination of the LLM + the active web index. It's already abundantly clear to me that Bing answers are far more useful than ChatGPT answers, and I assume a lot of that isn't the LLM spitting out content, but acting as one (or multiple) stages in a pipeline of information retrieval that includes classic search.
(DIR) Post #ATF19blFryDAfT5x2G by MissingThePt@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T14:27:16Z
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@TedUnderwood https://mastodon.social/@MissingThePt/109947906277503838
(DIR) Post #ATF1ZFMlkvNKjxrqcK by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T14:31:55Z
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@MattHodges oh yes; it definitely searches
(DIR) Post #ATF1hBdRVn3BU9S6ue by dan613@mstdn.ca
2023-03-03T14:33:18Z
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@TedUnderwood Interestingly, #ChatGPT refuses to answer questions about individuals on social media. Iām not sure how I feel about this. Better to be safe than sorry, I suppose. Being able to get a summary of anybody online opens them to attacks, but also speeds pre-emotive blocking.
(DIR) Post #ATF1oBwwjyWiUJuoZE by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T14:34:36Z
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@dan613 it may refuse because it canāt actually see the web; Bing is connected to search
(DIR) Post #ATF24WwcRzAiEeYMCG by dan613@mstdn.ca
2023-03-03T14:37:28Z
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@TedUnderwood I thought it might have data prior to 2021. Itās hard to tell from the few responses I got from it.
(DIR) Post #ATF26f17PLCdqpfoXI by mazdam@c18.masto.host
2023-03-03T14:37:57Z
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@TedUnderwood I wonder what it would do with statements like āthis isnāt creepyā
(DIR) Post #ATFAqBgnZxctqZOAk4 by keithwilson@fediphilosophy.org
2023-03-03T16:15:48Z
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@TedUnderwood Another reason not to make oneās social media posts public.
(DIR) Post #ATFOyumFE4xdMKzYNE by eliocamp@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T14:44:06Z
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@ggdupont @TedUnderwood Yes. This seems like qualified failure to me.
(DIR) Post #ATFOyvPwqSihLTZGG8 by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T18:54:14Z
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@eliocamp @ggdupont I think it's a failure of the citation system rather than the search, because it's discussing things I've only posted on Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #ATFQU9ud6TdZEQNNY0 by eliocamp@mastodon.social
2023-03-03T19:11:06Z
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@TedUnderwood @ggdupont Maybe? But in any case it's a failure of Bing as a complete system.
(DIR) Post #ATFVQ8NFNgAd4Zf5qi by BenjaminHan@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T20:06:24Z
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@TedUnderwood @Riedl this is what Bing has on me. BTW the 2nd and the 3rd bullet are from a different Benjamin Han because Iām not on Twitter.
(DIR) Post #ATFVe16LDXEqZTNFXE by BenjaminHan@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T20:08:56Z
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@TedUnderwood @Riedl this is what Bing has on me. BTW the 2nd and the 3rd bullet are from a different Benjamin Han because Iām not on Twitter.Very troubling.
(DIR) Post #ATFo4r6GJAZQXwHggq by ravensview@ottawa.place
2023-03-03T23:35:28Z
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@TedUnderwood Yes, frightening.
(DIR) Post #ATG1jdPJQAOFM8yDD6 by Riedl@sigmoid.social
2023-03-03T22:50:30Z
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@BenjaminHan @TedUnderwood I do appreciate it signaled āeducated guessā (anthropomorphization, anyone?). Also š¬
(DIR) Post #ATG1jdsjelvSpOji4W by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T02:08:26Z
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@Riedl @BenjaminHan a ātrained guessā strictly speaking
(DIR) Post #ATG2zPuZSwXg5SgGOW by scott_bot@hcommons.social
2023-03-04T02:22:32Z
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@TedUnderwood I'm curious what it does for me, since I regularly delete my posts. Does it have them in memory? Have I left some sort of echo?
(DIR) Post #ATGF8Yp6tqWfmcFkH2 by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T04:38:40Z
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@scott_bot You evidently left a very substantial echo.
(DIR) Post #ATGFwRTmTkGrU93swa by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T04:47:41Z
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@scott_bot Pushing it a little further. It (admirably) resists hallucinating your political opinions, but is willing to speculate about your personality.
(DIR) Post #ATGHlDnNDOT1lg0GDQ by matthewharrison@mastodon.social
2023-03-04T05:08:04Z
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@TedUnderwood holy smokes!
(DIR) Post #ATGHqn2BcoJEVWaShc by matthewharrison@mastodon.social
2023-03-04T05:09:04Z
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@TedUnderwood @scott_bot so is this the horoscopes trick of saying things that are generally true? Or is this account of Scott accurate in a deeper way?
(DIR) Post #ATGI2XYczcp9yxMeLA by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T05:11:12Z
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@scott_bot Pressed it on your Twitter bio.
(DIR) Post #ATGJPHjy4BjJXb4tSC by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T05:26:31Z
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@matthewharrison @scott_bot We'll have to ask Scott :) But it isn't this flattering about everyone's Twitter timeline
(DIR) Post #ATGtI04gwh5V4fb4W8 by scott_bot@hcommons.social
2023-03-04T12:08:31Z
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@TedUnderwood Whelp I'm so glad I opted for pseudonymity as a part of my solution to following Hatch Act rules.
(DIR) Post #ATGuCwNBNhLK6FOgQS by scott_bot@hcommons.social
2023-03-04T12:18:49Z
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@TedUnderwood "maybe he just likes the sound of the words" is not *not* true...
(DIR) Post #ATGxjWzN4yFen7UXRI by scott_bot@hcommons.social
2023-03-04T12:20:39Z
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@TedUnderwood I'm a little offended Bing didn't then go ahead and ask me directly.
(DIR) Post #ATGxjXYoxAbkZ44qh6 by scott_bot@hcommons.social
2023-03-04T12:39:15Z
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@TedUnderwood Also a little surprised it didn't expand on the legal system pun. Maybe I'm underestimating its capacity, but I bet it would get there if pushed.
(DIR) Post #ATGxjY0TIMj3wp0vnE by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T12:58:22Z
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@scott_bot I bet you're right that it's just remembering you from training, not really reading your Twitter! Also, a little slow on the uptake about the pun, but everything is forgiven when it says "oh I see what you mean."
(DIR) Post #ATGyPjLpVUb7IK7PdY by scott_bot@hcommons.social
2023-03-04T13:05:58Z
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@TedUnderwood I think it's both memory and knowledge chaining. I don't know when their training cutoff was, but my profile only briefly mentioned the agency. I think it may remember my name and is now connecting it to my work based on a web search, which is exactly what it's designed to do, but still rather disorienting.
(DIR) Post #ATHsv0kKTdPtef4Qeu by WenyiShang@sigmoid.social
2023-03-04T23:39:07Z
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@TedUnderwood That is the thing came to my mind immediately after reading this as well. This will not really help them if they already identify someone (thus searching "Ted Underwood Twitter politics"), as they can easily have this done by human. But they can do some search like "accounts who feel uneasy about this new technology". Another step towards digital dystopia.