Post AT9IkWa86hlGUiGPRI by struki@todon.eu
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(DIR) Post #AT99zQtMe1plbWIJZg by GenderGP@mastodon.world
2023-02-28T15:25:17Z
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This is BIG. A new study in the Journal of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons, has highlighted a regret rate of only 0.3% for gender-affirming surgeries.To put that into context, the regret rate for knee replacements is around 20% and plastic surgery can be up to 65%. Gender-affirming surgery... 0.3% 🤷 Yet MORE scientific research debunking the misinformation that's spread about the trans and gender diverse community 🎉 Read more on this research below ❤️https://www.gendergp.com/new-study-confirms-regret-rates-of-gender-affirming-surgery-are-non-existent/?ma=1
(DIR) Post #AT9A9kt99Xw8WB7B5c by Rasp@raru.re
2023-02-28T18:39:50Z
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@GenderGP That's astonishingly low number even for someone like me.
(DIR) Post #AT9IkWa86hlGUiGPRI by struki@todon.eu
2023-02-28T20:16:01Z
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@Rasp @GenderGP Yeah... The Abstract states "6 patients (0,3%) were encountered that either requested reversal surgery or transitioned back to their sex-assigned at birth." which is not the same as "regret"... paper itself is not published yet I think
(DIR) Post #AT9M5bakyTyJycIhPs by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2023-02-28T20:53:35Z
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@GenderGP
(DIR) Post #AT9WG1FFS0z5yYqQO8 by MollyNYC@mstdn.social
2023-02-28T22:44:31Z
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@struki @Rasp @GenderGP Also only studied patients who’d had their GASs & DTs from 2016 to 2021—a gap of no more than 6 years.So no TGs at later stages of their lives than when they transitioned.And a confounder: the apparent pressure on TGs to stay the course if it’s not what they’d hoped for—like they’re letting the team down (as this article’s tone demonstrates).But everyone tries stuff that doesn’t pan out. TGs are surely entitled to do the same.
(DIR) Post #AT9WG1rBAzKFsCaiVk by Rasp@raru.re
2023-02-28T22:47:28Z
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@MollyNYC @struki @GenderGP I mean this is why hormones and stuff are encouraged to the the first steps so it keeps the regret rate down really low. It weeds out most of those who it isn't right for well before knives come out.
(DIR) Post #AT9Wu2ykQKXww8DIG0 by struki@todon.eu
2023-02-28T22:54:40Z
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@Rasp @MollyNYC @GenderGP and then there's also the question where the regret is coming from - in another study I saw a whule ago (I think that one stated ~5% of people having regrets) they talked about one mayor reasons being transphobic pressure from society
(DIR) Post #AT9XC12UNFSU8KX0ka by Rasp@raru.re
2023-02-28T22:57:57Z
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@struki @MollyNYC @GenderGP yeah that tracks it VERY possible none of the detransitioners in this study were doing so because the transition was wrong for them.
(DIR) Post #AT9XT51KpBBFP881q4 by Rasp@raru.re
2023-02-28T23:00:58Z
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@struki @MollyNYC @GenderGP I mean the biggest filter against it is that... cis people don't think about their gender being wrong. Most cis people don't think about their personal gender at all to be honest.So they don't even get to the HRT stage because even that is a huge investment in time and energy and money that nobody is likely to do unless they have no other options.
(DIR) Post #AT9Y2ExpqXhONZG12m by MollyNYC@mstdn.social
2023-02-28T23:07:18Z
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@Rasp @struki @GenderGP I suppose, but it’s hard to know what you’re gonna be like in 10 years. I can easily imagine older TGs deciding they’re simply tired of it. But it’d be a lot of work to go back after all that time. Maybe easier to proclaim yourself happy with your decisions and carry on.
(DIR) Post #AT9Y6T8t4eDPViRXe4 by Rasp@raru.re
2023-02-28T23:08:11Z
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@MollyNYC @struki @GenderGP I sincerely doubt that
(DIR) Post #AT9rumCaNo8sEOsJsG by evannakita@mastodon.online
2023-03-01T02:50:04Z
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@Rasp @MollyNYC @struki @GenderGP Also the waiting lists get really, really long. I got on one back in 2019, and I just had surgery on Thursday. I had three and a half years to question whether I really wanted it. Especially during the two months of preparatory supplements that often caused stomachaches. And now, I’m still in the hospital and I have weeks of recovery to go, and I have no regrets. If I wasn’t sure I wanted this, I’d have bailed by now.
(DIR) Post #ATB1JdshY98APUSxJQ by Synergistic@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-28T19:22:32Z
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@GenderGP And of course it's not like the American Society of Plastic Surgeons would have any vested interest in this
(DIR) Post #ATBGFeFpieq7imq69Q by grayface_ghost@tech.lgbt
2023-03-01T09:16:30Z
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@MollyNYC @Rasp @struki @GenderGP This toot is transphobic, as is your previous one. I'm reporting.Why are you so invested in the idea that transitioned trans people will "grow out of it?"
(DIR) Post #ATBGFf0ytMYO50tkdk by MollyNYC@mstdn.social
2023-03-01T18:40:56Z
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@grayface_ghost @Rasp @struki @GenderGP I’m not. Look at an analogous situation to transitioning—marriage:Life-long commitment among participants who view their new situation as “meant to be.”But people divorce.Which means that particular marriage didn’t work out—NOT that they’re trying to invalidate everyone else’s marriage.Both TGs and de-TGs are entitled to support. The latter doesn’t detract from the former. It’s not zero-sum.
(DIR) Post #ATBGFg3V1UA7J75HCi by struki@todon.eu
2023-03-01T18:55:59Z
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@MollyNYC @grayface_ghost @Rasp @GenderGP Your last sentence is obviously true. I don't think anyone here wants to deny that. Everyone should have all the support on their gender journey that they need, I mean, that's the whole point.But the marriage comparison is still strange imho. Of course gender identity and expression are fluid and can shift over the course of your life but they don't flip as binary as the end of a marriage.If your binary gender identity made you want to transition and go through with it at one point in your life you might come to the conclusion that you are actually genderqueer or nonbinary for example but you won't after 10 years of living as a woman suddenly realize "oops, I actually _am_ a cis male, nvm"
(DIR) Post #ATBGFgjKVxcfOqegPA by Rasp@raru.re
2023-03-01T18:57:27Z
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@struki @MollyNYC @grayface_ghost @GenderGP Also with divorce there is a whole other person you have to deal with.
(DIR) Post #ATBH5w7QXqSIBXqA9Q by Rasp@raru.re
2023-03-01T19:07:00Z
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@struki @MollyNYC @grayface_ghost @GenderGP When you have this whole other person you could never possibly know as well as yourself who might be changing in other directions away from you while you are simultaneously changing in ways that might change you away from them.... yeah marriage is significantly more complex.
(DIR) Post #ATBJnVbQgyPsb4mJlo by freemo@qoto.org
2023-03-01T19:37:18Z
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@GenderGP Thats not what the study says at all.. It says only 0.3% of people got procedures afterwards to reverse the surgery... that is **not** the same as saying they didnt regret it.That said the regret rate does tend to be relatively low (not that low, but low). At least based on other studies I read.
(DIR) Post #ATBK7SC1505loTOzOi by freemo@qoto.org
2023-03-01T19:40:55Z
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@GenderGP |To put some numbers to it, the measured regret rate from what I've seen among the studies is about 1% - 2.5%. However its important to note only about 24% of patients report detransitioning to their doctors. So the actual value may be as high as 10%. but as you said even if it is on the high end this is relatively low.
(DIR) Post #ATBKJXXX1dLRs6EFQ8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-03-01T19:43:07.622859Z
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@GenderGP @lanodan it would probably be lower for plastic surgery if they made you go to therapy for a year and get special approvals to hack up your nose lol
(DIR) Post #ATBL6jMJs2dIiYRMOG by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-03-01T19:51:30.859257Z
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@icedquinn @GenderGP I'm not sure if the therapy part matters a lot here as that's for everything including hormones, which in terms of risks is very low.I think what matters more is how much knowledge patients have about the consequences/risks/… beforehand, including from people who did the surgery.I think if it was just because of the gatekeeping, the results would end up similar or at least with people regretting but not wanting to admit it because they had to go through so much bullshit to get there.
(DIR) Post #ATBLNFdlcJ23TCTkki by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-03-01T19:55:00.047078Z
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@lanodan the whole system basically conspires to prevent SRS regret rates, it's why they originally made the requirements even for hormones.There basically aren't safeguards for plastic surgery. It's up to the surgeon to talk you out of it and they're about to make a shitload of money fucking up your face so they have no incentive to do so.
(DIR) Post #ATBLUBtvuxShtrLjeK by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2023-03-01T19:56:16.875601Z
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@Rasp @struki @MollyNYC @GenderGP it's like I was reading on the internet gender issues aren't just a transgender issue either. Like say a person could feel uncomfortable about not having hair or whatever other reason about themselves.
(DIR) Post #ATBLWWE7JpAZW9tt6O by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-03-01T19:56:40.723968Z
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@lanodan if anything this just says the stone wall is ... Working as intended.
(DIR) Post #ATBN75iYwPZXyE8zTc by harblinger@shitposter.club
2023-03-01T20:14:31.285523Z
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@GenderGP you're a bigot if you regret it btw
(DIR) Post #ATBNRUf5uRRH7nFaCG by Zettour@gearlandia.haus
2023-03-01T20:18:12.065695Z
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@GenderGP People regret what they have for lunch far more than 0.3%, I think lopping your dick off would be in the teens bare minimum.
(DIR) Post #ATBNknVE5FmX3oq6V6 by LucoaMilkers@varishangout.net
2023-03-01T20:21:39.820950Z
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@GenderGP I don't regret it I don't regret it the jewish association of stealing my money says I don't regret it...
(DIR) Post #ATBNywDqSdyc9sS6fQ by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2023-03-01T20:24:15.215134Z
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@Zettour @GenderGP yet people aren't really into that maybe more into sucking dick.
(DIR) Post #ATBPlHkfom2SmjQQ6a by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2023-03-01T20:44:11Z
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@GenderGP Not too surprised about it. People wanting to do this are extra motivated considering all the fucking billions of obstacles society put before it.
(DIR) Post #ATG6GuEIISWcu0w9g0 by Honksaw_Duggan@nicecrew.digital
2023-03-04T02:59:22.139874Z
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You are all pedophiles and groomers
(DIR) Post #ATG6fByPycfGst5k12 by BigTLarrity@nicecrew.digital
2023-03-04T03:03:45.314356Z
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You can only be your birth sex. If you try to change it you become a cruel, self mutilated mockery. Your genitals will never work again. You will always reek of either piss or shit from your transplanted fake penis or your gaping wound that will close like a pierced ear if you don't dilate it regularly.The best you can hope for is that after the surgery the rope doesn't break and cause you to fail at suicide as well because its the only thing that will end your living nightmare of being in limbo, neither male nor female.TL:DR - YWNBAW
(DIR) Post #ATG7ZrMfGyQHTOSD2G by Omega_Variant@nicecrew.digital
2023-03-04T03:13:59.605071Z
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imagine thinking whether or not you regret a surgery is a indication of whether or not the surgery was a good idea.Its about as retarded as thinking you are the opposite sex that you actually are. No amount of surgery will ever change that.
(DIR) Post #ATG82N0TDpBTiXfRtw by sargoysmuck@poa.st
2023-03-04T03:18:40.690954Z
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@GenderGP Let us know how things go after they chop your micro penis off faggit
(DIR) Post #ATGBoOxJZuFRWbmoTY by KingDenizen@chudbuds.lol
2023-03-04T04:01:27.039404Z
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Oh noes, get me a manager!
(DIR) Post #ATGDbGzo3qeSyvori4 by zombiefinatic@poa.st
2023-03-04T04:21:29.355465Z
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@GenderGP Yeah because 41% of participents end up in a different medical department
(DIR) Post #ATGDfWdxpE2mfdd9Jg by Imp@nicecrew.digital
2023-03-04T04:22:14.836762Z
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Kill yourself groomer :apa:
(DIR) Post #ATGDnYjVwMO1T43c6i by chainsaw_appreciator@poa.st
2023-03-04T03:10:48.739367Z
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@GenderGP >A new study>From OSHU>With a sample size of <2000journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Abstract/9900/_Regret_after_Gender_Affirming_Surgery___A.1529.aspxAh yes nothing says "an objective take on human sexuality" then a bunch of portland niggers.
(DIR) Post #ATGFwn686MQMXAAJ8K by kikecrusher88@poa.st
2023-03-04T04:44:41.632872Z
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@GenderGP
(DIR) Post #ATGGqN1KFC8NsAQ84O by AmericanChampion@poa.st
2023-03-04T04:57:49.946233Z
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@BigTLarrity @GenderGP
(DIR) Post #ATGKQnNS1jbpu8pW5Y by 1967GTO@poa.st
2023-03-04T05:38:01.680320Z
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@GenderGP >Yet MORE scientific research debunking the misinformationScience?? Plastic Surgeons polled insane patients, that isn't scientific research. 99.8% of retards want to be a Fire Truck. You want to talk about science? DNA samples. Let's see how many tRaNsWoMeN they can identify.
(DIR) Post #ATWoGtKHK8A3k669JI by PJ_Evans@mastodon.social
2023-03-12T04:27:41Z
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@Rasp @MollyNYC @struki @GenderGP And the therapy, to make sure they really want to do it and know what they're doing.