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(DIR) Post #AT1fOrJf51qe6xWGie by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T03:52:18Z
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I'd like everyone's opinion on a photo, I took it with my S22 Ultra in astrophotography mode. Then I ran it through some editing software recommended by a fellow Mastodon traveler, ask me if interested. I'm curious which is better and is it ok to edit photos to bring out full potential? Most say for astrophotography you need to, to remove light wash, but I'd like everyone's thoughts.First is original, second is same shot cleaned up.#photography #astrophotography #S22Ultra #photoediting
(DIR) Post #AT1fzFwJ0bEeu6wzAG by stickfog@mastodon.social
2023-02-25T03:58:52Z
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@That_One_Guy Your edited one looks great! What was the software? I’m always looking for good stuff.
(DIR) Post #AT1g71h3rHRB2PWcK0 by Mrfunkedude@mastodon.social
2023-02-25T04:00:16Z
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@That_One_Guy I feel about the same way I felt about it in 2019. #photography #photoediting https://mrfunkedude.com/2019/01/07/in-defense-of-using-filters-in-photography/
(DIR) Post #AT1glJvdTpMbAzYWqe by hill_hobbit@techhub.social
2023-02-25T04:07:32Z
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@That_One_Guy yes, the photo is great. My opinion on editing: you are getting a skewed version of the light to begin with based on film or receptor. So, further editing is not really changing something that was "pure" to begin with. Filtering, sharpening, even shifting spectrum is fine, but you need to let people know if you're introducing new pixels (IMHO).
(DIR) Post #AT1h8gk2pO3uaeHES8 by darkfoxprime@sfba.social
2023-02-25T04:11:46Z
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@That_One_Guy Some folks do a lot of editing, some do none. I have a feeling most people are in between.Before I post a photo, I always do some editing: cleanup of specks, straightening the photo, and adjusting the level curves to increase contrast and raise or lower the overall brightness, if needed. I try not to do anything that dramatically changes the colors or content, unless it's for a specific effect such as isolating for a single object in color (and then i call out what i'm doing).
(DIR) Post #AT1hB87fzpge5fUjke by darkfoxprime@sfba.social
2023-02-25T04:12:13Z
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@That_One_Guy BTW - the cleaned up photo is much better - the improved contrast makes the details that you were trying to capture stand out.
(DIR) Post #AT1hEXx2QJ8z449EbQ by krysanify@androiddev.social
2023-02-25T04:12:49Z
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@That_One_Guy second one gives me more feeling. I don't know if it was a cold night when you took the photo, but I feel like it was.
(DIR) Post #AT1hF1edzGFvBhly64 by HaveyDeckAstro@astrodon.social
2023-02-25T04:12:54Z
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@That_One_Guy yes, totally fine! Like the color of the cleaned up version.
(DIR) Post #AT1hZQyvWz7ZWvzWq0 by jeanettepizzurro@mstdn.party
2023-02-25T04:16:35Z
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@That_One_Guy Yes, you said everyone. I prefer the cleaned up version, the second one. I think it looks great! Now I’m wanting a good camera for my cat/bird pics.
(DIR) Post #AT1hh8weTVJvuIbSee by Timdmackey@hachyderm.io
2023-02-25T04:17:57Z
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@That_One_Guy @Mrfunkedude I’m not a night photographer, but my response to this question is always to remember that Ansel Adams heavily “photoshopped” his photos with analog filters and development techniques, and he’s considered one of the greatest landscape photographers of all time. I think the same thing goes for all types of photography—used skillfully, post-processing enhances the quality of a photo.
(DIR) Post #AT1i5glyM77jlvJQJc by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:22:27Z
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@stickfogThanks! It's Affinity Photo 2 from Serif, seems to be a combination of Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop but without the subscription fee. It's a one time purchase. @real_jamescain recommended it to me after fixing one of my photos brilliantly.
(DIR) Post #AT1iFPZPAaMZJZ4Owa by stickfog@mastodon.social
2023-02-25T04:24:12Z
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@That_One_Guy @real_jamescain Ah ya! I have it myself and LOVE it. Does everything I need it to, though many times I can just quickly edit a photo in Pixelmator Pro and it’s enough. I consider Affinity to be my “big guns” app. Ha! Thanks for sharing!!
(DIR) Post #AT1iSMI8fcgEuYAS12 by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:26:31Z
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@MrfunkedudeThank you. I didn't know you had a post loaded from 2019 on the topic, but cool! I'm not a fan of editing people but landscapes and the sky sometimes don't come out right IMO.
(DIR) Post #AT1iwhyMcp76qDOETo by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:32:02Z
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@hill_hobbitI'm not sure I know how to add pixels, If I get there I'll probably quit my day job. 💰😄 Currently I'm playing with exposure and light balance mostly. All 1st tab stuff and no AI that I know of was used. It's the first real photo editing software I've ever used and I feel like I don't know anything! 🤔
(DIR) Post #AT1ixCQlNnejIyuKuW by thisisfine@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:32:06Z
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@That_One_Guy 1. I'm jealous I don't have that astrophotography mode on my iPhone. 2. That's a beautiful shot on the right. Photography is art. You do your art how you want. People shouldn't dictate how you express yourself.
(DIR) Post #AT1jKNL6zRyXnaJc6i by jgsjames@universeodon.com
2023-02-25T04:36:18Z
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@That_One_Guy Post processing is completely normal for all kinds of photography, not just astrophotography. Don't let anyone tell you differently. It's the final image that matters not how you got it. I like the processed image better.
(DIR) Post #AT1jO2EDQIL3TvpoNE by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:36:58Z
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@darkfoxprimeThat's basically where I am. I don't edit everything, hardly anything, but I've found with astrophotography some editing is beneficial. I'm in a semi urban area and light wash is a real issue. Obviously going somewhere darker would be better but not an option on a day to day basis.Thanks for the input. I'll let people know when I'm really changing things, I'm not a professional or anything close.
(DIR) Post #AT1jZTwii2DIdH6rg0 by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:39:02Z
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@darkfoxprimeThanks, it's a fun hobby. What I'm getting in editing is actually closer to my experience than the washed out RAW image produced originally.
(DIR) Post #AT1jlbYcEjl1iHcEVc by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:41:14Z
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@krysanifyGreat eye or feel for the photo! It was around 24°F (-4°C) with a very light breeze. I was bundled up and ran a 10 minute exposure cycle.Thanks for looking and your input!
(DIR) Post #AT1k8IEkEgsSS68jNQ by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:45:19Z
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@jeanettepizzurroI took that with my Samsung S22 Ultra smart phone on a tripod. I'll need a bigger tripod for my real camera. I think most of the Samsung and iPhone have the setting on the photo app (Expert Raw app) for Samsung. I take a lot of pet pics with it too. I'm much more into the 2nd photo too and it's actually closer to what it looks like than the washed out version.
(DIR) Post #AT1kAgDS3LmXOwfmuO by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:45:46Z
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@HaveyDeckAstroThanks and thank you for your input!
(DIR) Post #AT1kQ2l2WeJLeni3Qu by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:48:32Z
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@TimdmackeyWell said!I don't consider myself any kind of photographer, but I can change the settings and sit there will it does it's thing. I'm having fun and that's what matters for me. @Mrfunkedude
(DIR) Post #AT1kq5CU4BH4lIxlI0 by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:53:14Z
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@thisisfineThank you, I appreciate the input! I find the edited shot gets closer to my experience than the over exposed, light washed original.If your iPhone has a pro mode in the camera you can find guides online to adjust the settings yourself. The tripod is the biggest tool needed. It's just a fun hobby for me.
(DIR) Post #AT1l1iSiQrfDiR6PBo by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:55:20Z
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@jgsjamesThanks for the input! I'm very new to photography and just wanted to know what people think on editing. As I post most of my pictures on Mastodon I figured it would be a good sounding board.Like usual, Mastodon didn't fail me!
(DIR) Post #AT1lMIinKYhbxoRGPA by MPgh@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T04:59:03Z
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@That_One_Guy The 2nd shot looks to me like it has more depth. Plus that’s a killer shade of blue.
(DIR) Post #AT1lqsdiLvD036dyiW by nattiegoogie@mstdn.io
2023-02-25T05:04:34Z
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@That_One_GuySecond shot looks fake, but also more impressive, clearer, more detailed, and also more like other "good"(?) astronomy pics.First shot looks like what I'd actually see walking out into my backyard at midnight and looking up.
(DIR) Post #AT1mC3DCEx9sv5KqAq by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:08:25Z
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@MPghThank you for looking and the input! 🙂 It's a bit blue from editing but the night in person had more of a purple hue. I got the most stars visible with these settings. My phone's camera sensor brings in too much city light. I'm begging my wife for a dark vacation spot. 🤞
(DIR) Post #AT1mUFlaIiu54O6ENc by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:11:42Z
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@nattiegoogieThanks for looking and the input! I'm more inclined to post both photos when I do edits.My backyard sky is actually darker than the original but my phone's sensor brings in the faint light from the town and a neighbor and the light wash gets bad.
(DIR) Post #AT1maD8iypfOf0lQB6 by cvvhrn@sfba.social
2023-02-25T05:12:45Z
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@That_One_Guy Edit edit edit. ZERO wrong with using the tools and the data to bring out a better version of what you shot. I draw the line at stuff that will give you a fake panning effect, but changing the exposure, saturation, and the myriad of other things you can tweak is a legit form of art
(DIR) Post #AT1md5aBX9Og5iyrh2 by MPgh@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:13:19Z
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@That_One_Guy somewhere like Alaska? I lived in Seattle for ~5 years, and the winter dark got to me after about 3 winters. I love the place, but that’s a lot of blowing rain.St. Louis was home until I turned 18.
(DIR) Post #AT1mrUJOO7ZMqEzYzw by nattiegoogie@mstdn.io
2023-02-25T05:15:53Z
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@That_One_GuyDitto on the light levels, phone auto-settings enhance the light. Midnight looks like dusk. Should be able to manually adjust that in the camera app settings, no?
(DIR) Post #AT1mrf6KH2eaItxmeu by jgsjames@universeodon.com
2023-02-25T05:15:55Z
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@That_One_Guy There's an entire photog subculture around getting the shot "in the camera." I respect their ability to know their gear and the craft of photography to well, and to pick their moments to carefully, that they can do that. The vast majority of us cannot do that and have to make the best of what we have and the circumstances. If I can get someone to say "wow" by post-processing an image, that makes me happy. And astrophotography is FAR more unforgiving than daylight photography. It takes a lot lot lot of time and photons to make the beginnings of an astro-image. Search YouTube for image processing for astro. You'll see some amazing things where the beginning looks muddy and ugly but the end results are stunning.
(DIR) Post #AT1mrvtTq3TmNz5GUq by reay@mastodon.social
2023-02-25T05:11:47Z
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@Mrfunkedude @That_One_Guy I came to this same conclusion for similar reasons a couple of years back: https://www.reayjespersen.com/blog-1/2021/01/19/finding-the-path-to-the-sincerity-of-an-art/
(DIR) Post #AT1mrwQ5snZE18LJKa by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:15:59Z
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@reayThanks for taking a look and the input!This is my 1st experience with photo editing and I wanted other options on the subject. Up to now I've never edited besides cropping.
(DIR) Post #AT1nDNiTaewKl0AFzk by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:19:52Z
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@cvvhrnCool, thanks for your thoughts on the topic! I'm in it for a fun hobby but as I share on Mastodon a lot I wanted everyone's opinion.
(DIR) Post #AT1nLwHCypdgGCUTiK by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:21:25Z
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@MPghI've thought about Alaska. My sister in law and her husband lived in Anchorage for a while. There are a few desolate places in the Great Plains that would suit me too.
(DIR) Post #AT1nVev4MtDpK9loQK by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:23:10Z
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@nattiegoogieYou can in Pro mode but not when using the astrophotography setting in Expert Raw. It allows for four seven and 10 minute exposures. I'm actually getting into tinkering with the Pro settings myself so I'll see where that goes.
(DIR) Post #AT1no26SuU6yRKrUoq by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:26:29Z
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@jgsjamesI agree with you completely. I'm not a professional photographer, far from it. Using the equipment and tools I have to get what I do, I'm very pleased and others seem to enjoy it. This is my 1st photo edited with professional level software so hopefully I get better...
(DIR) Post #AT1oiizEepsbenVr3Q by andrewplord@mas.to
2023-02-25T05:33:31Z
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@Timdmackey @That_One_Guy @Mrfunkedude One of Australia's great photographers is Frank Hurley, who was quite happy to glue parts of negatives together to create the photo he wanted. In this one for instance the sun light and the battlefield never saw each other in real life.
(DIR) Post #AT1oiqdYDLHtNrQeMi by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T05:36:43Z
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@andrewplordIncredible photo though! I'm not looking at getting that deep just a fun hobby I can share with friends. @Timdmackey @Mrfunkedude
(DIR) Post #AT2BSHrq16LzrPBSDI by MikeHar94962844@mastodon.me.uk
2023-02-25T09:51:28Z
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@That_One_Guy All photos are edited to some extent. Back in the days of celluloid it was necessary to edit to correct colour balance etc. That's still the case these days: for example, my camera records in raw format so it has to be converted to JPEG, or whatever, to post here or elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AT2XZKaGVrmTIvjCyW by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T13:59:15Z
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@MikeHar94962844You're correct about that. My camera is set to shoot in RAW and JPEG and my phone has the settings too.Thanks for looking and your input!
(DIR) Post #AT2m0MDbwU2DYDufsu by MikeHar94962844@mastodon.me.uk
2023-02-25T16:40:59Z
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@That_One_Guy Yeah, my Minolta does the same, except that they use a '.thm' suffix for the JPEG thumbnails, so they tend not to open automatically on my computer. Not that that matters as I generally just delete them anyway.
(DIR) Post #AT3C4tgk2eHHK3MdVY by ForfarFairLady@mastodon.scot
2023-02-25T21:33:09Z
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@That_One_Guy I prefer the second one, with the bluer sky.
(DIR) Post #AT3E6pjttYBJYutPSC by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-25T21:55:56Z
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@ForfarFairLadyThanks for taking a look and letting me know! Most everyone prefers the second that has been edited.I appreciate the feedback from Mastodon as people are always nice and honest. 👍🙂Have a wonderful rest of your weekend!
(DIR) Post #AT3EEJ6F8G9yeHuI3k by ForfarFairLady@mastodon.scot
2023-02-25T21:57:16Z
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@That_One_Guy You're welcome! Keep on taking photographs and sharing them.
(DIR) Post #AT4bMaOpBk1siuTVcu by ChaHarper@mastodon.scot
2023-02-26T13:51:11Z
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@That_One_Guy My own take on photographs is that I add nothing or take anything away. That is: No addition of coloured filters or special effects and no photoshopping. I crop and select and make adjustments using the elements in the 'Edit' function on my 'phone. That is my only camera. Editing is where the 'art' lies. That's the artist/photographer's job.Yes?
(DIR) Post #AT4cpVrnDhbl18NjtI by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-02-26T14:07:38Z
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@ChaHarperI was the same, phone camera and phone edits, until getting my DSLR a few weeks back. Now I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm not a professional photographer but I wouldn't mind getting on that par one day.Currently I'm only adjusting the exposure and light effects to make my astrophotography look more in line with what I see, subtracting the light pollution. I'm going to have to keep at it to see how I feel in the end.I really appreciate your input. Have a great day!
(DIR) Post #ATB4PbVrZGp2fHJm7s by Zeke@elonsucks.org
2023-03-01T16:44:53Z
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@That_One_Guy You're losing a lot of fine detail (I'm looking at the webbing of the trees) which suggests to me that there's probably a better in-between image. That said: Post-processing is (and has been) always integral to the photography experience -- people who say you shouldn't edit in post have never used a darkroom.
(DIR) Post #ATB4mrHX6cAeEPhgzQ by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-03-01T16:49:09Z
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@ZekeThanks for looking and the input! I'm still trying to nail settings down but the two shots there were done in auto astrophotography mode on a S22 Ultra. I just got a tripod for my DSLR and I'm trying to use that now. I'm not opposed to post processing or edits, it's necessary when it is, I'm just trying to minimize the amount. I've had better and worse, it's a learning curve.
(DIR) Post #ATBA5IlOAUOIRnHZ7Q by davidpmaurer@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-03-01T17:48:29Z
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(DIR) Post #ATBALTRuCrlsDosfVA by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-03-01T17:51:27Z
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@davidpmaurerYeah that's the general consensus. Thanks for taking a look and letting me know!I started using my DSLR last night so pictures have changed completely.
(DIR) Post #ATD0eu3FQccu6IwxIe by outer@mas.to
2023-03-02T15:12:18Z
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@That_One_Guy @That_One_Guy2nd is better. ALL shots are "cleaned up" by hardware and software. The blue in the 2nd still looks like a nighttime photo, not an unrealistically colored alien world. Maybe, decades from now, people will wonder why the dots of light aren't satellite streaks.
(DIR) Post #ATD1CKmb3w30Yy6QeO by That_One_Guy@mastodon.world
2023-03-02T15:18:22Z
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@outerI appreciate you taking a look and the input. Most people agree that they prefer looking at the second. I've got a heavy tripod 2 days ago and have started using my DSLR instead of the phone.My goal is to make the pictures look like what I'm seeing and the skies in my area are typically blueish purple, darker when the moon isn't in frame. Picture below is an unedited JPEG shot offhand last autumn, same sky. I remember it as a very nice evening and took a snap.