Post AT0vEP3kgeMhgh9cdE by neven@pdx.social
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 (DIR) Post #AT0vENyOj4UKJndpeC by loren@mastodon.cloud
       2023-02-18T02:42:09Z
       
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       incentive structure is all wrong, i signed up for the first mastodon instance i came across years ago, it happens to still be running by sheer luck, but hosting is a commodity, you *don't* want innovation to happen on that side of the the stack so there's no mechanism to differentiate, so folks will end up running these things as charities until they get bored or wind up holding data hostage to recoup costs... or what am i missing? <handwavey communities blah blah something?>
       
 (DIR) Post #AT0vEP3kgeMhgh9cdE by neven@pdx.social
       2023-02-18T02:46:24Z
       
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       @loren I don’t know if there has to be intention behind it, or if that’s just what worked. Most of the social internet was like this until the mid-2000s, right? Free forum scripts, blogs, CMSs. It has its downsides, but in many ways it’s the default position of new internet innovations.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT0vEPgkLfYbddOlPc by loren@mastodon.cloud
       2023-02-18T02:48:46Z
       
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       @neven so few people are hosting their own stuff nowadays (and it seems to be actively discouraged culturally here). these stacks are just too complicated.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT0vEQHG9ulRSsTvKC by loren@mastodon.cloud
       2023-02-18T02:45:27Z
       
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       nostr almost solves some of this. the worst thing about it is that it, you know, doesn't actually work (maybe still early days, pretty flakey when I tried it). and totally misses the opportunity to use crypto in a smart way to a) align incentives and b) kill spamso mastodons are probably going to just consolidate, maybe someone should prioritize e2e encrypted dms because that seems important if 1 or 2 companies are going to end up running the thing
       
 (DIR) Post #AT0vEQHG9ulRSsTvKD by nedisakoff@mastodon.social
       2023-02-18T03:28:10Z
       
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       @loren couldn’t agree more about the culture of people not hosting their own stuff these days. However, I think the pendulum is going to be swinging back in that direction and we’re about to enter a Web 1.0 renaissance