Post ASzVBICSwSM5Zv7szg by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #ASyKTbL5EFuDUmiznE by varfrog@social.vivaldi.net
       2023-02-23T13:03:30Z
       
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       I've recently switched from GNOME after 12 or so years to KDE Plasma. First time KDE user. Oh my god, how much better KDE is. Ease of use, KDE applications, customization, workspace organization, aesthetics - everything is much better. I feel like my life has been a lie until this point. Thank you whoever develops KDE and Kubuntu. @kubuntu #KDE #KDEPlasma #kubuntu #GNOME @kde
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBGPrZfsq2tNYbA by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T13:07:28Z
       
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       @varfrog @kubuntu @kde >my life has been a lie until this point>KubuntuHeehee. Just imagine how blown away you'll feel when, a bit further down the track, you graduate from kubuntu to a *proper* KDE distro! ๐Ÿ˜œ <grabs popcorn, waits for hate posts to commence>
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBHZpG7Rle531lY by varfrog@social.vivaldi.net
       2023-02-23T13:09:45Z
       
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       @dropbear42 What is your favorite?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBICSwSM5Zv7szg by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T13:16:20Z
       
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       @varfrog Arch-based Plasma distros. For me now it's Arch itself, but i used Manjaro KDE for 3 years before that to get a good initial feel for the Arch concepts. EndeavourOS is excellent, & is closer to pure Arch than MJ. openSUSE [Tumbleweed & Leap] also do Plasma well [of those two, i'd pick TW, coz it rolls, & IMO KDE Plasma changes so fast you get the best UX if your distro rolls along with it].Fedora KDE is another to consider. Personally Plasma in F has never felt "quite right" to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBIhJ5n1d7ZYW48 by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T13:24:36Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @varfrog What do you feel isn't right about it? Personally, I feel Fedora KDE does a fantastic job of providing a KDE Plasma experience. And it rolls the latest Plasma releases to stable releases as they come.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBJFL3GFOp7Th6u by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T13:32:52Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @varfrog This is a bit tricky, & possibly apocryphal. It's not a definite "thing" i can point at atm, but more somehow a bit of a "vibe" i get with it compared to my Arch Plasma. That makes no sense, & i wanna say, i cannot "defend" my claim. IMO any user interested in Plasma should definitely try the F spin themselves. I just realised too... i formed that silly "feeling" a couple of years ago, when i was less familiar with F, & if it was ever true then, it's probably false now.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBJlx60KqSGjjwe by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T13:41:32Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @varfrog You should give it a shot again, then! Maybe it can convince you to have it on a few systems instead of Arch Plasma. ๐Ÿ˜œ
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBKKL29qCAupCXg by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T14:16:31Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @varfrog It is my 01:15 here, & after my last post i put my tower to sleep then went to get myself ready for bed too. Brushing my teeth, i could not shake the growing feeling that my OP that you rightfully queried, was wrong, silly & unfair... + tbh, pretty embarrassing. Hence, i've returned to my Study, woken up my pooter again, launched my Fedora Plasma VM, am running an update on it now, & am gonna prolly confirm the stupidity of my other post.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBL4mFUzIUwYHvU by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-23T15:13:29Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @varfrog To make it a fairer comparison, i'm trying to set the same theme in my F-KDE VM as i use in my Arch, which for starters needs Oxygen. However, this loooooooooong list of consequential downgrades is rather worrisome... dunno atm if i should proceed. Ha, maybe now IS the right time for bed; i'll see if it makes more sense once the sun's up again.PS: [she cheekily adds] Suffice to say, i never had any such massive downgrade long ago when i installed Oxygen into Arch KDE... ๐Ÿคญ
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBLcoCyD4CUTSyG by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T02:21:50Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @varfrog Plasma 5.27.1 is on its way for Fedora Linux 37: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-e31c3e4b6cIt is already available for Fedora Linux 38 (Beta): https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-81ff51758d
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBMCG5AZ9yR3mE4 by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T02:32:50Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @varfrog >Plasma 5.27.1 is on its way for Fedora Linux 37Ta.1. Any eta? Even just if we're talking days vs weeks pls?2. Via std repos, or do we need to add a COPR for this [i still haven't yet grasped how well F keeps up with Plasma releases, but over the past several months it's felt to me like F keeps up MUCH better than it did some years ago when i first touched F]?3. Any thoughts pls on that massive Downgrades list per my last post's pics?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBMjE6awBcgU6c4 by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T02:34:01Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @varfrog 1. It'll land within 24 hours of it getting one more positive karma from a tester. Otherwise, it'll take 14 days to hit stable updates. It should land in the testing repos in the next day or so.2. All via standard repositories. No need for COPRs for this.3. You might have gotten an out of sync mirror. Run "dnf" again with "--refresh" to have it retry and select a new mirror.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBNCIMWBp4q5JvE by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T02:37:29Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @varfrog Ta bigly.Re 3, aha, makes sense, ergo soon i'll wake up the VM, cancel that pending O2 install, resync, then try again.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVBNyrRx2PVSo6ca by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-24T02:48:18Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog come to the darkside dropbear! We have nightly builds! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVl0HJ3JkOQ4Q0v2 by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T02:54:48Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog ๐Ÿ˜€ Get thee back, thou most evil tempter of innocent archers. I wave my protective garlic wand at thou, verily, & chant my holy pacman mantras to repel thee! ๐Ÿ˜œ
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzVuzifz4RJaCz71E by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-24T02:56:37Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog Oooh ๐Ÿง„ ๐Ÿคค and how does the mantra go pacman -Sfds89g8f9b89fvd_๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ฉ ๐ŸธjkJohnMastodon?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzW317geMkqFhVbVI by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T02:58:04Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ
       
 (DIR) Post #ASzd7ITskrEIvNsW9o by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T04:17:15Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog >come to the darkside dropbear!Hmmmm, well, gotta say ... mumble mumble ... now that i've tricked-up my Fedora 37 KDE VM to aesthetically mimic my real Arch one, it's ... mumble mumble ... humming along so far as a pretty tight enjoyable system ... mumble mumble ... ๐Ÿคญ #SlidingDoors #ArchLinux #Fedora #KDEPlasma #FoodForThought @varfrog Pls now completely ignore my final sentence in my earlier https://fosstodon.org/@dropbear42/109914238539247305
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e89BRIRf0eI8nOC by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T04:23:47Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog Furthermore, #Spectacle WORKS in said VM's Wayland sessions, UNLIKE my Arch's Plasma Wayland. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ #WhoMeEmbarrassedOhLookOverTherePointsDesperately
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e8ADFTChZqBzkqe by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T14:11:36Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @justinz @varfrog The advantage of Wayland by default is that we notice these things and fix them pretty quickly. ๐Ÿ˜‰
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e8AopDUl9ijZlQ0 by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T22:59:30Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @justinz @varfrog Heehee.Your strong sarcasm can't hurt me; my wings are like a shield of steel [if req'd... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4Ij4RHH6M]. I know that as Hatters your Coefficient of Care for the following is Not Large [๐Ÿ˜œ], but fwiw... i've simply no idea why my tower's Arch Plasma Wayland Spectacle is broken, coz afaik all dependencies are met, & in one of my Archie VMs it works just fine. I've even removed it & deleted its `rc` & `conf` files then reinstalled it. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ No gloating! ๐Ÿคญ
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e8BWma3vBv48rw0 by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T23:14:27Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @justinz @varfrog Trust me, my being a Hatter is immaterial to all this. ๐Ÿ˜‚ I've only been one for a few weeks.Regardless, Fedora is the best anyway! ๐Ÿ˜œ
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e8C4SYqrNbVtlQW by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-24T23:16:16Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @justinz @varfrog *Grumbles sulkily to herself, half-wishes she had a cat so she could kick it now, decides to drown her angst in coffee...*
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e8Cb4bawpEf9oGG by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T03:38:02Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog why are people always wanting to kick cats? ๐Ÿ˜ 
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1e9cJOU35tHJYvvE by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:38:20Z
       
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       @justinz @dropbear42 @varfrog They're demons.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1eArW9R03CjB7hzs by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T03:38:34Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @dropbear42 @varfrog no that's humans.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1estFYM4tMqGM092 by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:46:29Z
       
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       @justinz @dropbear42 @varfrog That is not mutually exclusive.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1extVYp3tR5gEA8O by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T03:47:25Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @dropbear42 @varfrog animals are animals, they do anything they do for survival, humans have greed. :D
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1f2ftCsqgaIjZE5Q by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:47:39Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @justinz @varfrog Somehow i sense that you fellas might be focusing on the wrong part of my post... ๐Ÿ˜€
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1f2gQAuH3bwyzYTQ by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T03:48:16Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog I have strong feelings towards cats, having three of them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1f9KpxYQUB2GDxrc by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:49:28Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog Oh, so maybe i should get a cat, tell it that its food supply depends on my Arch's Spectacle working in Wayland, then letting it solve for me?#MoreThanOneWayToSkinA
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1fDPNgbNCKHpwSQ4 by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T03:50:12Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog ... human
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1fM3fcgu1lYgSLnE by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:51:47Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog It gets the lotion if...
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1fNhIQqe5EkIOGo4 by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T03:52:06Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog it stayed in the sun too long.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1feF1ZDSDxz6OHxo by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:55:03Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog Now lookee here, fine sir. You have no time for this frivolity, coz you're on the clock to get out the door:- Straya-friendly Plasma WW- F37 Plasma 5.27.1๐Ÿ˜œ
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1il22ECy15aXd5zE by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:56:07Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @justinz @varfrog Plasma 5.27.1 just was pushed out 12 minutes ago to F37.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1il2c23qelNaNgnI by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T03:58:25Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @justinz @varfrog Oooh. Oooooooooooooooooh. Better fire up the VM again. Ta.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1il3AlygRh7KdQwa by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T04:05:30Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @justinz @varfrog Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!I demand a full refund.Self-evidently, "fastest mirror" != "synchronised mirror".***Hmmmm, Plasma status post-reboot... display resolution had self-changed from 1920x1080 to 1280x800 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1il3inw9fSosYbzM by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T04:27:55Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @justinz @varfrog You'll need to way for mirrors to sync. Patience is a virtue. ๐Ÿ˜‚
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1il4GptctEWQTn28 by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T04:28:55Z
       
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       @Conan_Kudo @justinz @varfrog Just heading out to letterbox to see if refund cheque's arrived yet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1il4hQIm9nqsv1TU by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-02-25T04:29:53Z
       
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       @dropbear42 @Conan_Kudo @varfrog maybe we should continue this very long running conversation in the Fedora KDE Matrix channel ๐Ÿ˜  #kde:fedoraproject.org
       
 (DIR) Post #AT1jB14OQ1ya7m24WW by dropbear42@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-25T04:34:35Z
       
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       @justinz @Conan_Kudo @varfrog I'll just shut up for a bit, methinks, to give you all some peace.