Post ASyAXsK51hBbmpeei8 by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
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(DIR) Post #ASxEfL18wby5T0eRTk by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-02-22T22:01:28Z
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Oh what a terrible decision.Canonical will prevent Ubuntu flavors to come with Flatpak preinstalled, as they want to push snaps.Kind of a Microsoft-like move here. Really bad.https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-No-Flatpak-By-Default
(DIR) Post #ASxEfLaEq82bDr4TBI by souldessin@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-23T00:33:54Z
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@thelinuxEXPThey can't forget that they are based on Debian.
(DIR) Post #ASxUYIl0Y2b9hElqgy by julia@snug.moe
2023-02-22T22:03:08.125Z
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@thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social Something something walled garden something something closed source backend...By the way, have you heard that they want to public?
(DIR) Post #ASxUYJ7hBgkKpbNy3U by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-02-22T22:19:09Z
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@julia Yeah, it rarely leads to good things when stock holders get to push for more revenue instead of a better experience for users / customers.
(DIR) Post #ASxasdMyDlrN8nbcsi by lamp@mastodong.lol
2023-02-23T04:42:47Z
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@thelinuxEXP :ed_grin:
(DIR) Post #ASyAXqoqcKbp7g2COG by naught101@mastodon.social
2023-02-22T23:08:56Z
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@thelinuxEXP anyone able to explain the benefit of flatpak over apt? I don't like snap, but flatpack seems to have some similar problems for me (e.g. https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/498).I would have moved to Debian years ago, but the convenience of the larger number of available packages is too useful. Maybe time to check out Neon again...
(DIR) Post #ASyAXrTGC4w390wTNg by egermond@tooting.ch
2023-02-23T02:12:33Z
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@naught101 @thelinuxEXP the main difference between flatpak and apt is for the people maintaining the project and, by consequences, the user and distro maintener for update: security or other kind. Because you only need to push updates on one repo instead of several on the project side and you only need to take care of flat (or snap) integration on the distro side. Hope that answer your question.
(DIR) Post #ASyAXsK51hBbmpeei8 by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:22:24.715653Z
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@egermond @naught101 @thelinuxEXP
(DIR) Post #ASyAh3As3AuS32ipqy by mikonunyez@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T09:15:06Z
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@thelinuxEXP It's not really hard to imagine how this can backfire
(DIR) Post #ASyAh3r3WKea9sSWbg by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:24:06.805353Z
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@mikonunyez @thelinuxEXP SWOLE JACKIE CHAN!¡!
(DIR) Post #ASyAqFKqCpZKN1lqWu by DopeGhoti@infosec.exchange
2023-02-23T03:34:42Z
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@thelinuxEXP A shame. But I've been meaning to give Gentoo another swing anyhow. Or failing that, good old Debian.
(DIR) Post #ASyAqFytntbyNGVpy4 by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:25:45.788224Z
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@DopeGhoti @thelinuxEXP only niggers use those things real men use windows 94
(DIR) Post #ASyArRkFYHrZ9GEBPM by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-23T11:25:58.741839Z
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Flatpak and snapd are for gay normies, as is ubuntu. Fuck those faggots. I use arch. 😏
(DIR) Post #ASyB1yxcuZZ33qVaPw by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:27:53.083093Z
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@Humpleupagus @naught101 @thelinuxEXP @egermond i use a 2005 leap pad i jail broke and downloaded illegal malware onto these guus are supremo kikes. Lets point and laugh :dancing_exclamationpoint: :laughingmerchant:
(DIR) Post #ASyB2iWbVNHUNMDegS by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-23T11:28:01.212039Z
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I'm still using a basic interpreter. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #ASyB7CPSKukKDh0s8e by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:28:50.316254Z
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@Humpleupagus @DopeGhoti @thelinuxEXP dont worry i cant even use any interpretter, im too stupid for other languages
(DIR) Post #ASyB9ZJAAg3bokCQEq by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-23T11:29:15.677190Z
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I've driving a first generation kindle. It let's me say the nigger word.
(DIR) Post #ASyBFgF1J4wF3eAxto by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:30:22.296471Z
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@Humpleupagus @naught101 @thelinuxEXP @egermond i hope it comes up in the auto correct thatd be super helpful on those druged up days
(DIR) Post #ASyBFgu8qBpd7BPnzk by billy_hughes@poa.st
2023-02-23T11:30:17.762605Z
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@Humpleupagus @Soy_Magnus @naught101 @thelinuxEXP @egermond What has technology ever really improved?
(DIR) Post #ASyBWUxMW5Xuyuw5gG by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-23T11:33:23.633604Z
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Nothing really. Word and Excel worked fine on windows 3.1 running on a x386 with a 50mb hard drive and 8mb of memory. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #ASyBWl9IJUb7CYdqV6 by Dan_Hulson@poa.st
2023-02-23T11:33:27.446540Z
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@billy_hughes @Humpleupagus @Soy_Magnus @naught101 @thelinuxEXP @egermond Being able to call more people nigger due to the internet 😤
(DIR) Post #ASyBYGgqWth9JY3SD2 by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-23T11:33:43.391252Z
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@julia @thelinuxEXP
(DIR) Post #ASyC6MFINdl6OHQIlM by blacklight@social.platypush.tech
2023-02-23T11:39:49Z
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@thelinuxEXP hmm does it really matter?I mean, I largely prefer Flatpak over snap, and I still think that Canonical's move of pushing for a project that is starting to noticeably lag behind smells like a dull corporate move along the lines of "I know that my product sucks, but I still want you to use it".But eventually we're talking of Linux here. An apt-get install flatpack is just a few keystrokes away. And there are many distros (including most of those Arch-based) that include neither Flatpak nor snap by default (and not even package managers for AUR). But usually nobody bothers.Of course, this only works if we assume that the average Linux user knows how to install stuff from a package manager. I'm a lot more pissed with e.g. Microsoft pushing hard for Edge rather than Canonical pushing hard for snap, because I know that there are many more Windows users who don't know how to install another browser rather than Linux users who don't know how to install another package manager.
(DIR) Post #ASyHt9ZInoLt26rspM by thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T12:44:37Z
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@blacklight Sure, it’s easy to bypass, but should it have to be bypassed?Surely, community ran flavors should have the right to ship what they want?It’s more of an ethical thing than a practical one!
(DIR) Post #ASyb3MwXpOm4XVKANM by blacklight@social.platypush.tech
2023-02-23T16:19:24Z
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@thelinuxEXP it makes sense to use the word "bypass" only if the answer to the question "should Flatpak be installed by default on all the Linux distros?" is yes.And, if we say yes, then we are also implying that Flatpak would be the de-facto universal package manager available out of the box - and I'm not sure if everybody is onboard with that yet.Of course, this doesn't mean that the answer to the previous question should be "no, Snap should be installed by default instead" either.
(DIR) Post #ASz3PhCA0gfIR93xvk by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-02-23T21:37:13Z
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@thelinuxEXP ok time to switch to Arch full time :flan_laugh:
(DIR) Post #ASz3bnC5X4FCW6nUwa by la@social.lol
2023-02-23T21:39:23Z
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@calculsoberic *join us hehehehehehehhehehe*
(DIR) Post #ASz3fGZwjk4sWMc5Ts by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-02-23T21:40:01Z
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@la I just installed it as a VM the other day :flan_evil:
(DIR) Post #ASz5Ph4AgmLjwgS8q8 by hhg@infosec.exchange
2023-02-23T21:59:37Z
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@calculsoberic @thelinuxEXP welcome to the blue side :flan_evil: :archlinux:
(DIR) Post #ASzCx0Fz3k32hPoBDE by Corax42@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T22:11:20Z
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@thelinuxEXP What is even the point of using Ubuntu on your personal machines if all you get is a castrated Debian? Just switch to the real thing.
(DIR) Post #ASzCx13c5DkNBL1oZM by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T22:16:07.090Z
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@Corax42@mastodon.social I completely agree. Ultimately, I'm not really upset that Ubuntu + Ubuntu flavors has decided to do this.. because I would never use Ubuntu as a desktop anyway and would never deal with either Snap nor Flatpak---we use Ubuntu exclusively as a server OS, and the only containers wer would therefore utilize would be Docker containers. Which, is also a little confusing why Canonical would do this.. because if they want to pivot away from the desktop and focus more on enterprise applications and professional enterprise support.. why care about Snaps vs. Flatpak? Nobody is going to use Snaps for enterprise applications, they're going to use Docker or Podman containers (although, iIrc, they advertise Nextcloud and other applications as Snaps).If you want a Linux desktop OS, honestly, there's very few reasons I can think of not to use Debian---unless you have some other specific application or need in mind (like bleeding edge packages, for example). @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #ASzCx1gbkEwH8HGxLk by Corax42@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T22:28:43Z
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@adiz @thelinuxEXP I used Ubuntu since their first ever release in '04. Back when it was still *brown*. But I moved to Debian 12 years ago and never looked back.Canonical's behaviour was a major factor. Always circling the wagons to try and protect some inhouse technology that has already lost out to a community-developed alternative. Upstart vs systemd. Mir vs Wayland. Unity vs GNOME Shell. Snap vs Flatpak.They lost on all the other fronts and the same will happen with snaps, eventually.
(DIR) Post #ASzCx2AjwD2edjN1Jg by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T22:30:41.293Z
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@Corax42@mastodon.social It really is quite baffling. Snaps were dead on arrival. I am always promotive and supportive of new technologies that enter the FOSS-sphere.. but Canonical (and others) have a habit of rushing out needless competition to already established and reliable projects while being antagonistic. Such as the situation here with Snaps. @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #ASzCx2mJgV6EWGx1t2 by cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
2023-02-23T22:41:13.573Z
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@adiz@outerkosm.us @Corax42@mastodon.social @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social People are starting to kind of look at Fedora to be taking over as the "de-facto" linux "just works" desktop distribution which they are trying at least. However, Ubuntu is still quite prominent and I doubt they're ever going to go away from the top spot anytime soon unless they complete shoot themselves on their foot, beside I assume the reason why Canonical keeps on doing such projects was because of how known and used their distro was and still is, and to be honest a bit of competition and more ecosystem in the Linux space is nice, but the main issue is those Canonical projects are just too focus only on Ubuntu. While I know snaps works on other distros, it's still an Ubuntu-first-class project instead of a for all project like flatpak. I guess Canonical is just going to keep on being Canonical...
(DIR) Post #ASzCx3Cu5eMnqjOGKO by Corax42@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T22:47:23Z
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@cyberdystopia @thelinuxEXP @adiz Fedora is a fine distro, I wanted to play around with their Silverblue variant for a while now. I'm just a little too familiar with the Debian ecosystem to feel entirely at home in rpm land ^_^
(DIR) Post #ASzCx3euPWlhFaUcym by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T22:52:07.326Z
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@Corax42@mastodon.social Fedora is great. I use it as my desktop OS (but I'll probably migrate it over to Debian as well). I don't know how I feel about things like Silverblue since I do enjoy and prefer a traditional Linux setup and traditional package management, but I also believe that things such as an immutable system with atomic updates are the inevitable future. I used Silverblue as a daily driver for a few months and has zero issues outside of various things simply not working due to being totally compartmentalized, sandboxed, containerized, and ergo unable to communicate with one another. It was exceptionally, ridiculously stable, however. What excites me more than projects like Silverblue, however, are projects like Toolbox, where you can just create a totally containerized bare-image VM inside your OS to install programs or tinker and it never touches your actual OS. It's so much better and easier than an actual VM or full virtualization. Toolbox is a perfect name for it: a tiny little container OS where you can put things you just want to play with or install but don't want to keep or otherwise don't want to affect your actual system. Do what thou wilt, and whenever you're done, painlessly destroy it. @cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #ASzCx4BsQx8itpuxMm by Corax42@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T22:57:06Z
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@adiz @thelinuxEXP @cyberdystopia The other day I installed Silverblue in a full VM and the irony was not lost on me ^_^
(DIR) Post #ASzCx4no9vTsnTfFUO by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T22:59:37.805Z
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@Corax42@mastodon.social Create a VM, install Silverblue, create a toolbox, download Docker, install a docker container.I installed a containerized package inside a virtual image inside a fully containerized OS inside a virtual machine inside my OS @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social @cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
(DIR) Post #ASzCx5IeJG9QL85sYq by Corax42@mastodon.social
2023-02-23T23:02:40Z
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@adiz @thelinuxEXP @cyberdystopia InceptionOS :)
(DIR) Post #ASzCx5liZBP3nHh5s0 by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T23:06:49.756Z
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@Corax42@mastodon.social Thinking about Gnome Boxes:install a VM on Gnome Boxesinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Boxinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Boxinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Boxinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Boxinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Boxinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Boxinstall another VM on Gnome Boxes inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box inside your Gnome Box@thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social @cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
(DIR) Post #ASzCx6Emp6ehFRIJBA by cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
2023-02-23T23:08:13.734Z
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@adiz@outerkosm.us @Corax42@mastodon.social @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social This post looks better on misskey
(DIR) Post #ASzCx7aRo3ZnQuR7a4 by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T23:10:06.197Z
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@cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo I'm on Calckey :calckey: so this is my experience too (re the Misskey screenshot) and I was intentionally going for the "fading out into space" quote aesthetic. @Corax42@mastodon.social @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #ASzCx89tgFvtCr1Qps by feinzer@ak.airis.work
2023-02-23T23:15:52.117743Z
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@adiz @cyberdystopia that fading effect is going away i think
(DIR) Post #ASzCx8hvdj9euOwbse by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T23:16:44.506Z
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@feinzer@ak.airis.work What⁉️ @cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
(DIR) Post #ASzCx9LdG6uitXWJlY by feinzer@ak.airis.work
2023-02-23T23:20:36.310471Z
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@adiz @cyberdystopia on Calckey though, not misskey
(DIR) Post #ASzCx9xYz5FsnBGbtA by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T23:21:42.646Z
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@feinzer@ak.airis.work :misato_wha:I feel so betrayed.@cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
(DIR) Post #ASzCxAdkSF00u10Ids by cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo
2023-02-23T23:21:53.119Z
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@adiz@outerkosm.us @feinzer@ak.airis.work cackey users btfo loooll
(DIR) Post #ASzCxB5OnR7KHlwNk0 by adiz@outerkosm.us
2023-02-23T23:23:20.111Z
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@cyberdystopia@minidisc.tokyo :whyMelt: @feinzer@ak.airis.work
(DIR) Post #ASzGhez4GibECBpr2O by teleportaura@mstdn.social
2023-02-24T00:06:07Z
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@calculsoberic @thelinuxEXP And I guess I'll wish you fun with Arch (btw) for the second time!
(DIR) Post #AT6TXZt91AH50UJ5vM by reto@pleroma.labrat.space
2023-02-27T11:32:54.598617Z
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@thelinuxEXP To be fair, all other distros do the same with the snap store or however they are calling it.