Post ASvGvv9QBCpXl5de1g by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
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 (DIR) Post #ASurpCk5sYS7R7Ualk by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:08:31.958584Z
       
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       not that i don't believe @AlexJones  but is there anyone else who can confirm any of the claims he's making rn?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASurrNXghDk9Vjj5fs by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:08:55.006022Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @AlexJones what cllaim
       
 (DIR) Post #ASurxFI0IFTpeVBhlQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:10:00.186483Z
       
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       biden declares war on russiazelensky intent on invading russiachina increasing military support to russiaWW3 has already begunputin threatens nuclear war imminent
       
 (DIR) Post #ASus3KNiH33PBNl5VI by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:11:00.519062Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @AlexJones apparently putin pulled russia out of some agreement not to use nuclear weapons, i don't have details. the rest sounds like bullshit.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASus8uk0W8TTOiqmI4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:12:06.203698Z
       
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       New STARTthe last such agreement limiting the nuclear arms race afaik
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusB4wNZBzVbtfYB6 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:12:28.880578Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @AlexJones do you know what the actual implications are of this, not the media claims?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusENhwFPFOgTUPdA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:13:05.575653Z
       
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       @AlexJones is strongly considered evacuating the united states, going to argentina/southern hemisphere
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusHn74FPikLVrxaq by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:13:41.854768Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @AlexJones i think he may financially benefit from exaggerating things
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusNTfdRmWXmekXLM by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:14:44.203813Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon @AlexJones :alexjoneswarface: It's time
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusU8TAfcx23b5ukq by nolasco@iddqd.social
       2023-02-21T21:15:56.989363Z
       
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       the neocons in congress are practically foaming at the mouth for war, same with the neolibs following that bullshit spiel they keep going on about respecting territorial integrity, sovereignty, and democracy. zelensky was amassing people at the belarussian border last i saw. for what purpose who knows but it makes people even more antsy.if our politicians are crying to the chinese not to sell the russians weapons and the chinese are denying it, they're probably doing the diplomatic thing and just lying about their salesWW3 has begun - maybe....nuclear war threat seems to be getting realer and realer everyday and i don't like that both sides are now trying to play the wildcard strategy
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusWXDjcM8XOs1Bse by nach@bae.st
       2023-02-21T21:16:20.006801Z
       
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       @AlexJones @jeffcliff @AlexJones @Moon WHAT????? :alexdenton:
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusiIHqxxaeYkYH0i by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:18:29.520295Z
       
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       afaik it means russia will be building more nuclear weapons. lots more.the US / china will follow suit.  other nations, probably too.but the New START wasn't the only thing keeping the nuclear weapons from being built: they are expensive and require technical expertise -- it's a slow process to get moving.  Uranium doesn't just come out of the ground -- it takes people, infrastructure to get it out of the ground and put it into working missiles.  Also: there's the political detente -- the US is updating its stock, russia is updating its stock...both are making moves at a certain rate, spending a certain % of their GDP and this is closely monitored by both -- it's just one example of how measured of a response this is from Russia's standpoint -- they will probably continue at around the rate they are going. But they, and the US might not -- they have the option, now to just build without the pretense of New START in the way.one thing is very likely: uranium is going to get more valuable.Cameco $TSX:CCO is probably trading low rn for example
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuskg1ffyaKlQ7RKq by racs@detroitriotcity.com
       2023-02-21T21:18:06.525940Z
       
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       @Moon @AlexJones @jeffcliff The agreement (New START) is a nuclear arms reduction treaty. It basically means that, while paused, Russia will no longer honour the limits on the number of deployed ICBMs. It also allows each side to supposedly conduct inspections of each others' stockpile but from what has been said Russia hasn't exactly cooperated with the agreement, especially concerning inspections.In other words, if it's true that Russia hasn't been cooperating for quite some time, it's just more fearmongering.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusmrHGoWHGEtSItM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:19:19.811319Z
       
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       also he doesn't seem to be serious"I MAYBE will go to argentina" that's not the sort of thing you say when nuclear war is actually imminent
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusvfbhZd2oeNDKXg by grillchen@brotka.st
       2023-02-21T21:20:54.396240Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon noob question here and im to young for the cold war but why does any country need more nuclear weapons than needed to destroy the earth one time? like dont have usa and russia already enough nuclear weapons for all kind of militar maneuver? is there something they can only do with more?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASusw6sIC3MHDeBSeO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:20:59.201363Z
       
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       > zelensky was amassing people at the belarussian border last i saw. for what purpose who knows but it makes people even more antsy.Whatever amount Zelensky has put on the belarussian borderit's less than the amount that Putin put on the belarussian border.  He's worried about an invasion, and that worry is justified > nuclear war threat seems to be getting realer and realer everyday and i don't like that both sides are now trying to play the wildcard strategythat much is definitely true
       
 (DIR) Post #ASut8eMHWm1iXfBslk by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:23:15.858004Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #ASut8gcJ8A2BXwhi1g by nach@bae.st
       2023-02-21T21:23:17.101245Z
       
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       @AlexJones @jeffcliff @AlexJones @Moon >tfw I may have the chance to share a mate with Alex Jones :alexjoneseh: literally the best timelinemate.webp
       
 (DIR) Post #ASut9buM7jL7EQaQZU by nolasco@iddqd.social
       2023-02-21T21:23:26.734168Z
       
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       he's already been invaded, the best thing he can do now is lose and quickly
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutLJ06FLiU4BqkgC by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:25:33.139884Z
       
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       > war but why does any country need more nuclear weapons than needed to destroy the earth one timethe first thing russia might to do is attack somewhere like montana/north dakota/minnesota where the nuclear weapons areand the first thing the US would do is attack the russian equivalents, wherever they areyou disable as much of the second response as possibleone russian bomb in north dakota would probably disable a quarter or so of the US nuclear response capacityso you build 2x as many as you need and you distribute them far apart so they can't all be hit at once.  And once you've done that you do 3x.  and then 4x.  and then 100x. and then 10000x.  just in case.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutRnp2Z7KFOam6tM by n3f_X@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:26:41.746034Z
       
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       this isnt factoring in the nuclear boomer subs off of both coasts
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutSzGtTzytC7MswS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:26:56.533933Z
       
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       as far as how much they havethey have roughly one bomb for every 800,000 people.  which is enough to make humanity likely go extinct, but if you live in a city with less than 800,000 people you *might* survive the attacks on the first day of nuclear war, and then just have to deal with stuff like fallout, nuclear winter, famine, the nonexistence of the global supply chains supplying things like food, medicine, and whatever
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutXW3pVzUq2yPv5k by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:27:45.448208Z
       
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       compare and contrastif the russians build up 300Mt bombs they were planning on originallyyou could pretty much guarantee complete, immediate obliteration if they all found their targets.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutY8qjIdBsLdaVaS by grillchen@brotka.st
       2023-02-21T21:27:52.143253Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon sounds like lobbyist work :ChenShrug: and there is still the question if they will ever be used.i love this clip from the british satire "yes minister" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o861Ka9TtT4
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutgwMp4tgwEznKm8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:29:27.802986Z
       
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       it is there are definitely nukes on subs and they would be attacked tooso the US/russia both would need a bigger nuclear sub fleetone of the things keeping the sub fleet from getting ridiculous were those START treaties
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutooa9uEJuPfmsJU by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:30:53.020089Z
       
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       that guy is almost certainly playing bertrand russell
       
 (DIR) Post #ASutqaMpjB1MuCOmoa by n3f_X@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:30:44.935262Z
       
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       lol welcome to the absolutely absurd and insane ... these mfkers are complete psychos and do not give  one fuck about nuking whole populations ...
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuu0LEErqcuqk1xui by Omega_Variant@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:32:41.158647Z
       
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       Surprise. Our nukes weren't in Montana they were on weaponized satellites orbiting the earth that were disguised as debris.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuu6Egu5TQsJLFVlg by n3f_X@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:33:26.840020Z
       
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       the US does have a chain of weaponized satellites
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuu7hh3k4cyYB1Q92 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T21:34:14.356329Z
       
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       and both russia/US probably have things we don't know about yet
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuuCVCBdWzzEiryOe by Owl@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:35:10.203022Z
       
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       Yeah like the device that can use Wifi signals to track people inside by seeing what the waves bounce off of.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuuDRIDdGHpQE8bqq by n3f_X@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:35:19.178791Z
       
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       yea... i agree ... neither will break out that sort of thing unless absolutely necessary ... i honestly think they would spend old hydrogen bombs before they used newer more destructive tech
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuuKp8TNqctOd6IFM by Evil_Bender@nicecrew.digital
       2023-02-21T21:36:39.868948Z
       
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       Yeah 60 years of $1,000,000,000,000.00 yearly defense budgets has likely led to some impressive tech. The stuff we currently think of as "advanced", b2, f117 things like that were designed in the 70s. We likely have cold fusion, antigrav tech and some kind of "cloak" system by this point.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuvJz8wn2966CUDRo by jawsh@fedi.jmizzle.com
       2023-02-21T21:47:36.080470Z
       
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       @jeffcliff I recommend talmud any claims by Alex Jones with a 5lb bag of salt. He's crazy.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuxHQnLj140tmIID2 by ec670@pawoo.net
       2023-02-21T22:09:39Z
       
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       @grillchen @jeffcliff @Moon The idea is that the enemy might capture or destroy some of them in a first strike.You need land-based and sea-based missile launchers and long-range bombers.Of course the real reason is to enrich weapons manufacturers and create jobs in all 50 states.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuxMUPnh0nfZfgv68 by jawsh@fedi.jmizzle.com
       2023-02-21T22:05:08.447296Z
       
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       @s8n @jeffcliff Sandy Hook was a hoax and didn't happen, just comes to mind off the top. Or was that claim due to psychosis? I'm sure some of his claims are true. I've watched so much of him and it's not hard to tell he's crazy. Entertaining, but crazy.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuxMV7l3Zxhm0G1c8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-21T22:10:33.943423Z
       
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       He's entertaining in the same way that that next beer is 'entertaining' to old people who have been in the bar since noon and are sloshedhe caters to some kind of addicts, who have problems separating reality from fiction
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuxTvJM5mYx1BDmYS by mint@ryona.agency
       2023-02-21T22:11:28.097373Z
       
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       @s8n @jawsh @jeffcliff FBI asset with some sick moves, mind ya.Husky_1677017498379_I8CM421NU1.…
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuxx4GJtKp3B2hNCK by netdoll@ryona.agency
       2023-02-21T22:16:58.251155Z
       
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       @mint @s8n @jawsh @jeffcliff I don't know how to feel about this
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuxxcApoEdYLsOTMu by ec670@pawoo.net
       2023-02-21T22:17:17Z
       
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       @grillchen @jeffcliff @Moon We really do have an MIC-based economy.  Veterans benefits are the only way to get free education or lifetime health care benefits.  There are no private sector employers that take care of people, cradle to grave.Combined with the fact that the Empire’s coffers never run dry, no matter how high the deficit is or how high inflation or debt goes.  Bond holders are happy to be holding the bag.  A large scale USD or Treasury dump is simply not done.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuyObJt5mwhWQUpFY by ec670@pawoo.net
       2023-02-21T22:22:07Z
       
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       @grillchen @jeffcliff @Moon So, - if you’re a poor, here in the land of opportunity, the only realistic way to become middle class is to enlist for Uncle Sam and hope you end up driving supply trucks in Okinawa or Dubai, instead of Baghdad  - Uncle Sam has a bottomless checkbook and can pay your bennies, because there is no way to collect debt from somebody who can level your cities into smithereens.  The best you can do is unload some of the paper onto some other sucker
       
 (DIR) Post #ASuzxcWygIQNMrsiFE by xianc78@gameliberty.club
       2023-02-21T22:39:41Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @AlexJones Alex Jones is controlled opposition. His trials were most likely staged.http://mileswmathis.com/jones3.pdf
       
 (DIR) Post #ASvGvv9QBCpXl5de1g by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
       2023-02-22T01:49:49.212235Z
       
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       @Moon It's not even that, it's one of those quantity limitation treaties@AlexJones @jeffcliff