Post ASuDaJSMdbL3kWXmFc by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
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(DIR) Post #AStYMP9QZYT1Egw58i by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T05:55:34.967442Z
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wait what
(DIR) Post #AStaEsmQjDG0ijigxU by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T06:16:35.178064Z
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@bot That's like saying if someone read or photocopied a book they brought into Australia that book is now considered as being published in Australia.Aus internet laws are kinna vague and dogshit - currently the "potential liability of internet content hosts and internet service providers is currently being reconsidered as part of stage 2 of defamation law reform" There was a scare about whether facebook could even operate in aus anymore without being liable for every defamatory comment but this didn't go anywhere, this still happened though:https://www.maddocks.com.au/insights/high-court-confirms-media-outlets-are-liable-for-defamatory-facebook-commentsIf I'm an Australian citizen and am responsible for content that is considered as having been "published in Australia" because someone from Australia accesses it regardless of where it's being hosted, then I could probably be held legally responsible for it. :niggaheyface: - not something I was totally unaware of but I figured it being hosted somewhere else (ie the US) would make that the location of publication.
(DIR) Post #AStajDNehW65IbaxzU by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T06:22:08.942455Z
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@bot No idea how this applies to fedi. Would an Australian instance admin would be considered the publisher of posts made on a completely different instance that they happen to federate with? Surely not if it was the media outlets being held liable for the facebook comments on their articles rather than facebook itself.
(DIR) Post #AStajkVFYImQ1iOzuS by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T06:22:20.226122Z
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@cassidyclown @bot all the more reason to not dox yourself
(DIR) Post #AStaqm5o2ZUUz3qpma by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T06:23:32.349780Z
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@bajax @bot I didn't pay for my domain name and hosting with crypto - law enforcement can get my dox if they want it.
(DIR) Post #AStauKaEGGXwp7mEkK by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T06:24:13.849569Z
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@cassidyclown @bot would your hosting provider be obligated to comply?
(DIR) Post #AStayfbG42ClADKMCG by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T06:25:02.171154Z
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@cassidyclown @bot Well, obviously they could be-- other domain names have gotten taken down with little or no legal precedent. This is like rearranging deck chairs at this point.
(DIR) Post #AStb5DCq1vuR831aV6 by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T06:26:13.036671Z
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@bot @cassidyclown Well if they want to make an example out of you they could target you in an instant. I guess the only advice I can give at this point is vet your users so they don't put a target on you?
(DIR) Post #AStbDMrk01gpP92sro by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T06:27:29.349128Z
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@bot @bajax I'm really not that concerned personally but it would definitely be a concern for any australian that wanted to host a big instance, or simply a website that hosted comments.
(DIR) Post #AStbYctlaMRVD6870a by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T06:31:28.136054Z
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@bajax @bot I don't want to subject my users to gay Australian laws (we literally have hatespeech laws that I break all the time) - I'm not really worried. What will be will be etc.
(DIR) Post #AStcWyy4f1Jr24vOF6 by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T06:42:19.573667Z
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@bot @bajax retarded aus laws like this tend to only result in cases between australian citizens, the sperg would probably have to be aussie. poa.st is hosted in the US, idk if Canada's laws apply to content hosted outside of Canada like Australia has explicitly stated.
(DIR) Post #AStejsGd5JzLvJsXxI by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T07:07:04.371474Z
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@bot @bajax no but cp and irl criminal activity isn't protected by the US either - cbf getting into a loli discussion and whether that's considered cp in the US, I'm more concerned about speech-laws. Canada seems to consider the operator of online social media as an "innocent disseminator" unless they were explicitly aware of the defamatory post. I don't know if hosting in the US automatically grants US section 230 protection to a canadian operator.
(DIR) Post #AStfaxkBSA5GG017QW by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-21T07:16:48.580411Z
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@cassidyclown australia is a fucking shithole
(DIR) Post #AStfeidVZ6BkYlgZs0 by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-21T07:17:29.366817Z
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@cassidyclown like australia has the worst fucking laws out of any english speaking country. they're a nice country in some ways but like
(DIR) Post #AStgQSqHadBfTYQZjU by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T07:25:59.446868Z
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@bot @bajax yeah but if you publish content in the US isn't that just US jurisdiction. If you were British and went on holiday to the US and committed US-legal hatespeech against a fellow British vacationer while in the US, would you be prosecutable for that once you return to Britain? I really don't know how it works btw.
(DIR) Post #ASthFGawsub2GBToA4 by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T07:35:12.204780Z
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@meso the laws and internet are really shit yes but I like the country itself and I like Australian people in general (they improve in quality the further away from a city centre you get). The laws will probably get a lot worse though :suicide:
(DIR) Post #ASthScLJL24RTSX0k4 by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-21T07:37:42.734018Z
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@cassidyclown yeah the country itself is really cool they've got very nice scenery and the people are fun shame it's so hot and dry but the laws and internet are awful every time i read about something law-related in Australia it's worse than the last
(DIR) Post #AStiN3WdSdApzpjxg0 by sarvo@novoa.nagoya
2023-02-21T07:47:54.749Z
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@cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co @meso@asbestos.cafe just go back to the wild abos and live life hunting crocs as it was meant to be
(DIR) Post #AStiNS3mF3wc5ZQlfM by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T07:47:48.034913Z
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@meso it's always a bit jarring and blackpilling to read news on aus laws written in the US. It always goes like this:> reads headline> "What? We're not that bad"> continues reading article> no lies detected> "Damn I guess we are that bad"Maybe that's just because I don't pay as much attention to my own country's politics and news as I should.
(DIR) Post #AStiatrCCjQe43xUqO by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T07:50:16.389450Z
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@sarvo @meso so true :niggapensivecowboy:
(DIR) Post #AStqH4YXVzYV5ZHy5I by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T09:16:25.851414Z
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@cassidyclown @bot I think it's going to depend on whether the local jurisdiction wants to prosecute you-- if that's the case, it's not gonna matter where you "publish" it.
(DIR) Post #AStqUlrhnuLbArmlKS by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T09:18:53.695094Z
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@cassidyclown @bot That depends entirely on Britian's laws. Once you get back to foreign soil, US laws don't matter.
(DIR) Post #AStqsB8tzPGIENzU5A by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T09:23:08.500729Z
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@bot @cassidyclown US doesn't have to extradite foreigners living abroad. If you're talking about the hosting providers turning over identifying information... Of fucking course they would. These social justice religious fanatics are everywhere, and sticking it to "subversive" "white nationalist" or whatever bogeyword is an opportunity you would have to force them NOT to take. Even if it went against the policies of the company.
(DIR) Post #AStsCqzEDxIrkmt8fg by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T09:37:59.712972Z
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@bajax @bot does it depend on Britain's laws involving actions in foreign countries or just Britain's laws full stop? If you're an American on holiday in Britain with friends and bought a drink for an 18 year old American you're travelling with, is that prosecutable as supplying alcohol to someone under 21 once you get back to the US? If I sound retarded it's because I am and have no idea how this is supposed to work- I'm not trying to argue a case. I know countries often have explicit laws about participating in wars in other countries and sex-tourism but they're often made out like they're exceptions.
(DIR) Post #AStsO8DwTbPGOq9G9Q by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T09:40:06.952452Z
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@cassidyclown @bot I think it all depends on whether a prosecutor wants to prosecute and whether there's a specific law or precedent saying they can't.
(DIR) Post #AStu1uIjlAX8kyvBfk by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-21T09:58:32.061653Z
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Off the top of my head, and I'm working from memory, I think the law of the jurisdiction where the act occurs applies except for certain crimes in certain circumstances. For example, I recall that if a US Citizen kills another US Citizen in a foreign country, they could be prosecuted in the US under US law, assuming the foreign country allows extradition and doesn't prosecute locally. Drinking is going to be governed by foreign law if you're over seas. Rape of a US citizen by another US citizen would be akin to the murder example.
(DIR) Post #AStu3AqRjhqOM7ID2m by bajax@bajax.us
2023-02-21T09:58:44.753273Z
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@cassidyclown @bot But what you've got to add to this is that there's a LOT of political pressure to act against free speech of the kind Cassidy gets involved in with clubcyberia
(DIR) Post #AStuSl3kEEr3udiDxo by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T10:03:12.939515Z
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@Humpleupagus @roboneko @bajax @bot This is what I assumed was the case for most countries - ie it's the foreign country's jurisdiction except for x explicitly outlined exceptions.
(DIR) Post #AStux5K3SIxrRdnnOa by billy_hughes@poa.st
2023-02-21T10:08:34.580160Z
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@Humpleupagus @roboneko @bajax @cassidyclown @bot Interesting
(DIR) Post #AStvAJE34jOEKTIZsW by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T10:11:09.076434Z
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@Humpleupagus @bajax @bot @roboneko what I'm really trying to get at is whether or not someone from Australia or say Canada hosting content in the US is subject to Australian/Canadian laws for that content or whether it just falls under US jurisdiction. In particular what country's laws apply to the liability of the host for comments/posts made by users that are not themselves. I'm guessing it's country-specific but it's hard to find info on.
(DIR) Post #AStvcfEArk3yfwsV96 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-21T10:16:22.916770Z
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I've never looked at it. I'm in the US hosting in the US. Our courts are bound by 1A and section 230 in that case. But now I am interested. I may take a look next time I log into westlaw.
(DIR) Post #AStvhvCgtWa1fkgv5s by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2023-02-21T10:17:20.355243Z
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(DIR) Post #ASu5MtozpymYqWDsZM by bb@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T12:05:35.193153Z
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@meso @cassidyclown real, I was watching some australian make a computer targeted painball turrent and apparently its illegal and was raided by feds during filming. Geez
(DIR) Post #ASu7u1wyprh7WOsoXg by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T12:33:54.588262Z
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@bb @meso you don't know how mad I am that airsoft is illegal here - that shit looks fun af
(DIR) Post #ASuD30QAOFat9idMdE by bb@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T13:31:38.132067Z
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@cassidyclown @meso hopy shit airsoft is illegal? Thats bullshit, are blowdarts illegal too?
(DIR) Post #ASuDaJSMdbL3kWXmFc by cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T13:37:32.983108Z
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@bb @meso Yes blowguns are illegal in Aus. Dude "zombie knives" - ie knives with skulls painted on them are illegal in New South Wales- literally would be legal minus the edgy "zombie killer" stuff that's on it. Crossbows and slingshots are illegal in my state (western australia), flick knives are illegal in all of Australia - the list goes on
(DIR) Post #ASuEOA0a2WjSvSJjaC by bb@clubcyberia.co
2023-02-21T13:46:16.190931Z
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@cassidyclown @meso seriously messed up, its like when I found outwalmart checks ids if you buy markers