Post ASrqs29j0sv02jO2Ay by Adverb@sigmoid.social
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(DIR) Post #ASrHzMcFqQBV89UUqG by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T03:42:50Z
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Really not convinced that #LLM are dangerous or being deployed rashly or whatever. But I do think the perception of danger has legs and is likely to become a major factor limiting AI deployment within 2-3 years. Whatever the rationale, economic disruptions on this scale simply do generate regulatory pushback.
(DIR) Post #ASrIDTQ7LLNyHtXeu8 by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T03:45:24Z
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When doctors' and especially lawyers' livelihoods start being affected, that's going to be a political issue. And there are plenty of plausible rationales available to justify a "go slow" policy.
(DIR) Post #ASrIM4HMBg4qv4XgkS by pfessenbecker@troet.cafe
2023-02-20T03:46:56Z
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@TedUnderwood I have a student who's trying to research this, and it has this schizoid dimension of: "no, no one is actually using this technology in any meaningful way, and no, no one's really suggesting they should. But they MIGHT do it, and so we need this research project where I demonstrate why that's a bad idea."
(DIR) Post #ASrIgszFMlgFykzxFw by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T03:50:42Z
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@pfessenbecker If it's LLMs ... there are definitely deals going down to use them in law firms, etc.
(DIR) Post #ASrIw7yXv9ceoEwErY by pfessenbecker@troet.cafe
2023-02-20T03:53:27Z
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@TedUnderwood I'll pass that on, thanks. He's got a theory that they'll be used to expand the apparently existing uses of automation tech in utilities operation/water-electricity distribution.
(DIR) Post #ASrLyWipBWh006Q7aS by afamiglietti79@mastodon.social
2023-02-20T04:27:30Z
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@TedUnderwood ironically, one wonders if, seeing the likely inevitability of regulation down the road, Google and MS are now rushing to deploy first, sort of a digital version of military fait accompli
(DIR) Post #ASrN9NrsXmrDgEOdJg by adbreind@mastodon.xyz
2023-02-20T04:40:40Z
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@TedUnderwood Am interested to see if this pans out! 30 years ago, I’d have agreed: “Sure, especially because of outsize representation of law within the halls of power” … but more recently, and particularly since the 2007 financial crisis, I’m just not sure even “big law” has a lot of weight compared to “big money” (finance and then tech and then all of their mutant offspring) … saying any application of technology to increase profits for incumbents or private equity gets 👍
(DIR) Post #ASrNINdImskdYbrs48 by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T04:42:18Z
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@afamiglietti79 I think they're still rushing to get market share. I don't think AI- assisted search is the sort of thing that will get regulated; it's milk toast and not as scary as we're all pretending. Models replacing lawyers or providing medical advice or teaching classes — that stuff will be highly controversial and I can see political pressure to regulate.
(DIR) Post #ASreNBY6qAImkUJevA by knutjaegersberg@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T07:53:39Z
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@TedUnderwood It will take a while before LLMs have an effect on employment and then I think it will not be as large as suggested in social media, for now. We talk about assistants that can save time and thus via via, jobs. When the AI stops being stupid, then we will see serious repurcussions. Ain't there yet.
(DIR) Post #ASro0XLad2QlEfIcIC by Adverb@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T09:41:35Z
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@TedUnderwood usually I'm all for "do this right & with care," but seeing OAI's tacit suggestion of "let's only allow *some* corporations to have GPUs" without analysis of "that sure does create power for... OAI in particular" does make my stomach turn. Cause for concern that thing slow, and that things *centralize* in ways that are undeniably awful in the mid-term.
(DIR) Post #ASrqs29j0sv02jO2Ay by Adverb@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T09:47:40Z
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@TedUnderwood doesn't sway my sense that people will end up trusting a sytem that's even less reliable than existing search & more convincing, along with representation issues to boot. But the solution there is sure as hell not: let's hand all the GPUs to five corporations (including microsoft 🙃)
(DIR) Post #ASrqs3uCVZglTA8fFw by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T10:13:39Z
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@Adverb I think search applications are going to seem uncontroversial in a few years. I also think people will largely accept “personal assistant” types of functions (calendar and email management). When personal assistant becomes paralegal or physician’s assistant: that’s the boundary where I expect resistance to kick in. I would expect laws that define legal personhood and limit reliance on non-persons for certain decisions.
(DIR) Post #ASrrbycaUEEmOynIZ6 by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T10:21:59Z
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Maybe also laws that limit what your assistant can actually do for you on the web—can it buy stuff etc— using an “AI safety” rationale. But limiting GPUs… is not a serious proposal.
(DIR) Post #ASs5IRuBIcHUn4bdtQ by afamiglietti79@mastodon.social
2023-02-20T12:55:20Z
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@TedUnderwood it all depends on how the regulation is written. Unintended statutory consequences are common. They become less likely if lawmakers think of llm search as normal and craft to exclude. I'm not sure there is a sweet spot where llm search is limited enough to be safe but powerful enough to be much better than conventional search. We'll see. LLMs will definitely have applications but search may be siri redux.
(DIR) Post #ASseH23DR6X8i8tLai by Adverb@sigmoid.social
2023-02-20T19:27:15Z
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@TedUnderwood it's a terrible proposal but I think, depending on how things shake out, it's so lucrative it may be pushed with these reasons!
(DIR) Post #AStacxYCdvzWSxXuYy by chengyjonathan@sigmoid.social
2023-02-21T06:21:07Z
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@TedUnderwood yeah, and I think we’re going to start to see labor unions for various crafts coordinate their efforts in the next year or so. Either to simply resist adoption or generate larger regulations.
(DIR) Post #ASttLxhGkDgj7rOYIi by TedUnderwood@sigmoid.social
2023-02-21T09:50:56Z
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@chengyjonathan Yep. It’s just digital artists right now, but I agree.