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(DIR) Post #ASqtwYCrtfabJEk5lw by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:17:49Z
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Happy #BlackHistoryMonth !I will get to Black history. For now, I'm still on white US history.Q: Why is so much Black music about violence and misogyny? I'm not racist, but I think Black culture is just more violent. Why does it seem that way?A: Racism. Rap, trap, and drill, are only the most popular genres of Black music listened to *by white people.* The most popular among Black folk is R&B, almost 2X as popular. Violent rap is mostly for y'all.š¤·šæāāļøhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/945163/leading-music-genres-african-american/#BlackMastodon
(DIR) Post #ASqtwYh05dgyogq9js by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:19:03Z
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In the US, "Black products" can be thought of as falling into one of 3 categories.1) Made by Black people2) Made for Black people3) Black people are the productMany products are a combination. Football is 2) and 3).Violent rap is mostly 1) and 3). It's "Black" music made for the white ear. That's how a lot of white US music listeners see Black people. š¤·šæāāļøTrap and dril are definitely *part* of Black music culture, but they're not even close to most of it. But that's how the world sees it.
(DIR) Post #ASqtwZDc8NmQRq6CZc by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:21:30Z
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If you go to a Black hair salon, you're more likely to hear Jill Scott playing, than to hear Kodak Black.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBYV4bMlg7gA weird thing that I've noticed: when some of my white friends hear a Black person say that they don't listen to rap or hip hop, they assume that means that the Black person listens to "white" music.š¬ They genuinely don't realize that the vast majority of Black music is not rap.This leads to some awkward eye rolls. Usually the Black person doesn't try to explainš¤·šæāāļø
(DIR) Post #ASqtwZpBsfq0KNgD8y by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:29:30Z
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Many of the white musicians making "Black" music, are attempting to cosplay what they think of as "Black culture." But they're only seeing a tiny fraction of Black culture, seen through the pinhole of a record label producing "Gangster rap" for consumption by suburban white kids. ššAt this point, I feel the need to explain that most Black musicians don't actually have face tattoos.š¤·šæāāļøBirdman has these kids drawing all over their faces permanently.
(DIR) Post #ASqtwaKjzN4huERPJw by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:33:09Z
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Black rappers do this too! You'll often hear rappers claim that other gangster rappers aren't "real," or are "studio gangsters," actors performing a display of what they know white listeners expect to hear from Black people.You'll also hear Black rappers admitting that they focus their music on the violent topics that white audiences want, and simplifying their lyrical structure, because that is what's required for commercial success in a market where most of the buyers are white suburban kids
(DIR) Post #ASqtwaqe4kazVBMt3A by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:35:58Z
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I don't need to rehash the origins of rock and roll, blues, jazz, or techno/house music. OK, maybe house music... Where was the "house" referred to in "House music?" And who were the original House DJs? (Hint: Ask any non-racist gay American man over 40, that could really dance when they were younger).I tell people that in about 50 years, someone will say, "You know, the original rappers were Black!" And no one will believe them. Someone will have to create a long thread about it. š¤”
(DIR) Post #ASqtwbKmGihN0dSx16 by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:38:01Z
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US music listeners do associate Jack Harlow with "Black culture," but don't associate Adele, Snoh Aelegra, etc, with Black culture, even though the later artists go out of their way to make that association known as respectfully as they can without crossing over into appropriation.ššSnoh Aelegrahttps://youtu.be/4976Fgvf5PsAdele:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqwThis says more about the listener and the framing allowed by our society, than it does about either the musician, or Black people.
(DIR) Post #ASqtwbsSFVdYh5DqVc by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-19T23:13:23Z
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@mekkaokereke I once had a talk with a Black colleague, and serious muso, about this the very subject: what counts as harmful cultural appropriation in music? Where's the dividing line?His blunt response, was that there isn't one. You do it with with deep, heartfelt respect and understanding - as homage and a celebration - and not many Black people are going to care. Music is for everyone, after all.But that's a tightrope that's very easy to fall off, as you've pointed out.
(DIR) Post #ASqtweMJ1UhgOFCiJc by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:39:11Z
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š¤ I know that people love Ted Talks, but for some reason, I keep running into Ted Talk fans that have never seen this one?White Mike Ted Talk:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1DxHL2i3cZoWhat we consider "Black music," is defined by racist systems. The same racist systems that cannot prevent the murder of young Black men, defines that narrow slice of most deviant Black music, as the whole.Yes, I listen to trap and drill music. No I don't think Violet rap should all be censored. I'm not Nancy Reagan.
(DIR) Post #ASqtwhCUSRdPCfdPvs by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:41:14Z
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What I do think should happen, is that music listeners should understand that what they think of as "Black music" is just a subset of Black music seen through a lense of racism. US history is full of beauty, violence, wonder, racism, justice, evil, hope, misogyny, respect for others, more racism, collaboration, religious intolerance, and finally, even more racism. The US is a fantastic contradiction, and we rap and sing about it. You can't just take the worst parts, and call that "Black music"
(DIR) Post #ASqxnJmUYolhmQG3yC by ChristiJunior@bae.st
2023-02-19T23:56:35.976627Z
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@mekkaokereke @mekkaokereke So blacks prefer to actually *physically* carry out assault, rape and murder, rather than just sing about it, gotcha.
(DIR) Post #ASqxxQeLsToFykGupc by jwill@androiddev.social
2023-02-19T23:43:58Z
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@mekkaokereke I'd like them to also see the influence in other genres like J-Pop / K-Pop as a linear progression from the boy groups of the 80s, the crossover into pop(BSB/NSync/LFO/98Deg etc) and then further distilled and remixed into J/K-pop. Have had folks talk to me about how hip-hop and R&B sucks but their idol industry faves are using beats created by R&B/HipHop hit makers.
(DIR) Post #ASqxxR9C1oTnWOhXu4 by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2023-02-19T23:58:24.606498Z
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@jwill @mekkaokereke >Black>Preferred PronounsOh no, not another Niggerfaggot!
(DIR) Post #ASqzYkV38fLQD9HRHE by p@raru.re
2023-02-20T00:16:22Z
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Your favorite rappers favorite rapper?MF Doom.@mekkaokereke
(DIR) Post #ASrO1AO4sfcNVZ6QNc by roufamatic@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T02:03:30Z
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@mekkaokereke An incredible resource for music history is Andrew Hickey's "History of Rock Music in 500 Songs." https://500songs.com/ Highly recommend, it shows clearly how rock started as Black music and became co-opted by white musicians.From this I learned many Black music styles we don't call rock today would have been called rock at the time; white writers in the 70s claimed the term for guitar driven white music and invented names like "girl groups" for groups like The Marvelettes.
(DIR) Post #ASrO1AzIeHONN0W9Oi by Bec@peoplemaking.games
2023-02-20T02:16:12Z
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@roufamatic @mekkaokereke This reminds me of when I learned that ācoversā started rather literally, in that white artists would record songs by black artists and then (though it was definitely just meant to boost sales to racist demographics originally) white teenagers would buy both versions and hide the original, better record in the sleeves (or cover) of the nice, āacceptableā white version so their parents wouldnāt get mad. My sheltered little white mind was blown wide open when my mother (whoās in her 70s now) told me she did this so her parents wouldnāt beat her for listening toā¦ well, you know what they called it back then.
(DIR) Post #ASrO1D8wdOIO3V2si0 by roufamatic@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T02:10:11Z
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@mekkaokereke it's also an incredible project. It's going to take him 10 years to cover all 500 songs at his current rate. He's a bit less than 3 years in at this point.
(DIR) Post #ASrOIAkWmtqPYPiEhk by StaceyCornelius@mstdn.ca
2023-02-19T21:37:18Z
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@mekkaokereke I recently got very interested in house music and immediately looked up its origins, because I had a funny feeling. Yep.
(DIR) Post #ASrOOLbDMSxywRIhrU by nova@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T22:21:10Z
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@mekkaokereke Hey long time reader, first time writer ā Iām really interested in if you have any personal favorites that you would want to share? I am always looking to find more good groups to follow.Here are some of mine but Iām always looking for more. All the mediocre white music started out as better Black music.Carolina Chocolate Drops, Taj Mahal, Trombone Shorty, Kebā Moā, lead belly, Mississippi John Hurt, Ted Hawkins, Rhianna Giddens, Dom Flemons, Melvin Seals, and a lot more!
(DIR) Post #ASrOQQz6JHisDsT6VE by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T01:08:34Z
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@nova Radio R&B:Jill Scott https://youtu.be/pBYV4bMlg7gMary J Blige https://youtu.be/1gBPi_JdtykUsher https://youtu.be/gIRv5zWbv_gNe-Yo https://youtu.be/IxszlJppRQITevin Campbell https://youtu.be/3SoYkCAzMBkD'Angelo https://youtu.be/SxVNOnPyvIU (warning: shirtless Black manš¤·šæāāļø)Donell Jones https://youtu.be/PhfCgSA6DeQIndia Arie https://youtu.be/Mq86e4Fhja0Alicia Keys https://youtu.be/rywUS-ohqeEIsley Brothers https://youtu.be/23W3wqAvsLgWeeknd https://youtu.be/u9n7Cw-4_HQLedisi https://youtu.be/XauB5LZaOpIAl Green https://youtu.be/rqqAnjY2Rmo
(DIR) Post #ASrOU2mQFAg6JQG8q8 by Cassandra@artisan.chat
2023-02-20T01:13:22Z
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@mekkaokereke @nova I played stuff I grew up with (70s) for my crew, who were all under 30, and they knew it all. Which still seems so weird to me because I only liked a small amount of my parents' music. They liked the elevator music radio station, but they had a few good records.
(DIR) Post #ASrOU3J2HulXwZWBfs by joshrivers@techhub.social
2023-02-20T01:59:31Z
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@Cassandra @mekkaokereke @nova I really think one of the benefits is the Spotify/YouTube era is that young people no longer sort themselves into cliques based on which radio station is their favorite.
(DIR) Post #ASrOU4I0dDXSzg2siG by Cassandra@artisan.chat
2023-02-20T02:03:05Z
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@joshrivers @mekkaokereke @nova When was that a thing?
(DIR) Post #ASrOU4vMGv0wxiSJ2u by joshrivers@techhub.social
2023-02-20T02:07:02Z
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@Cassandra @mekkaokereke @nova totally a thing when I was in high school. I was totally a Top 40 station fanboy until the markets shifted and then me and my friends would all ditch on the Too 40 losers because we were cool and listened to Nirvana on the Alternative Station. When they added the Alternative shelfs at the record store it really felt like our generation finally had a voice. The good old days. When I was a rebel sheep.
(DIR) Post #ASrOU5WE3qVMo3hkVk by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T02:19:46Z
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@joshrivers @Cassandra @nova Stuff you may already know as a Nirvana fan:Dave Grohl, the Nirvana drummer, was heavily inspired by the Black disco drummers.ā„ļøššæhttps://youtu.be/dZCrdSC2-1IDisco is now thought of as white music, because of bands like the BeeGees and ABBA. But Disco used to thought of as so Black, that a Disco Demolition night in Chicago, turned into an "anti-woke" demonstration, where people brought music made by any Black musician, not just disco.https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/disco-demolition-the-night-they-tried-to-crush-black-music
(DIR) Post #ASrOYAyJjEIssRnFvE by jrosen707@toad.social
2023-02-20T01:27:28Z
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@nova @mekkaokereke I'm pretty much old school...Robert JohnsonMuddy WatersLittle WalterHowlin WolfJoe LigginsPercy MayfieldAlbert KingBB KingFreddie KingAlbert Collins
(DIR) Post #ASrOYBY7a6wYfUXqjI by carlrj@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T03:21:55Z
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@jrosen707 @nova @mekkaokereke now I need to go look up Joe Liggins - the only name I donāt recognize. Can highly recommend the others.
(DIR) Post #ASrOYC1tnOlM9qTd8y by jrosen707@toad.social
2023-02-20T04:34:23Z
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@carlrj @nova @mekkaokereke The Honeydripper https://youtu.be/pBZyyyF3Li8
(DIR) Post #ASrOcaJhRGcSdotgeW by jacob@social.jacobian.org
2023-02-19T22:57:51Z
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@mekkaokereke Iāve been enjoying all of your threads recently but this one has been especially eye-opening for me. Iāve got some music homework to do and Iām really looking forward to it. Thank you!
(DIR) Post #ASreWzd60nYOg1KE6a by inthehands@hachyderm.io
2023-02-19T21:36:59Z
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@mekkaokereke Adjacent to your point: when people say āBlack music,ā they never seem to mean rock or jazz. Yet the origins of both are solidly both (1) and (2). And in the past, white people certainly thought of both as being Black music.But huh, look at that, somehow their Blackness seemed to vanish from white imagination as they became popular. Why could that be?(We know the answer of course. Same answer as always.)
(DIR) Post #ASreX2MXqn659YbYDw by inthehands@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T02:23:36Z
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@mekkaokereke Weird thing: earlier there was a reply splaining how rock and roll was really started by white people.A little while later, the post has mysteriously vanished.I guess somebody learned something today!
(DIR) Post #ASsTxOmME0YLrr0Q2i by CodexArcanum@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T14:22:06Z
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@mekkaokereke @joshrivers Youtuber 12 Tone just did a pretty fascinating look into Smells like Teen Spirit where he gets into some of the musical technicals of their inspirations! https://youtu.be/X6uMfJosvnAIn addition to the disco drums, Cobain was heavily inspired by the Pixies, who drew from the Velvet Underground. Where was Lou Reed inspired? Doo Wap and free Jazz are his stated primary influences, both that era's forms of "Black music."
(DIR) Post #ASsVB6rdjDs4JXZuy0 by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-20T17:45:21Z
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@CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Cobain was of course also inspired by the so-called British Invasion bands of the 1960s, who were in turn heavily immersed in blues, R&B and rock 'n' roll...all rooted firmly in the African-American music of the early- to mid-20th century.Hat tip to Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Howlin' Wolf, John Lee Hooker...and so many others.
(DIR) Post #ASsVHexhrlxhnvXUn2 by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-20T17:46:33Z
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@CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Cobain was of course also inspired by the so-called British Invasion bands of the 1960s, who were in turn heavily immersed in blues, gospel, R&B and rock 'n' roll...all rooted firmly in the African-American music of the early- to mid-20th century.Hat tip to Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Howlin' Wolf, John Lee Hooker...and so many others.
(DIR) Post #ASsfKACNhPAqnuEgUa by luis_in_brief@social.coop
2023-02-20T19:39:02Z
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@BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers more directly, they covered Lead Belly in the Unplugged session.
(DIR) Post #ASshCSxUGauUZtj6um by Fluzbug@mastodon.social
2023-02-20T19:59:59Z
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@BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers not to mention led belly whom he covered in the mtv unplugged album.
(DIR) Post #ASshWDsY2fphbJpxmy by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-20T20:03:38Z
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@luis_in_brief @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Yep, and who can deny the strong funk influence on the bass and drums on this track?Add a brass section and a different singer, up the tempo just a little and...it'd be funk.ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆhttps://youtu.be/qv96yJYhk3M
(DIR) Post #ASsjHk6U9HTr6oZyCW by carlrj@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T20:23:24Z
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@BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers yep, the British took a bunch of musical influences that many Americans wouldnāt be caught dead listening to (all those original Blues artists), and presented them back to the Americans in a āsaferā form. Thereās a lot to love in the British Invasion and it mostly wasnāt just covers, it was influencing and mixing and expanding, just like most great music does
(DIR) Post #ASsmeNJ9MuMUvqzEGm by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-20T21:01:08Z
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@carlrj @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers It's an interesting history, so much to unpack. Post-war, the British establishment were terrified of a people's uprising, because too many had sacrified too much, for too few. So they invested massively in social reforms to keep us happy, the so-called (cross-party) Postwar Consensus. The result was a huge spike in upward social mobility, and a lot of white kids from very deprived backgrounds having more money than they would otherwise have had. And of course they related more to "Black music" than what they were being taught at school. It broke all the rules.They embraced it.Plus it sounded sooo goood! So then we gave you the Beatles,Ā the Rolling Stones,Ā the Kinks, Small Faces,Ā the Zombies, Herman's Hermits,Ā the Dave Clark Five, the Hollies,Ā the Animals,Ā Gerry and the Pacemakers,Ā the Searchers,Ā the Yardbirds... *fades away*...
(DIR) Post #ASso4sfBVpGbf8Untw by carlrj@hachyderm.io
2023-02-20T21:17:07Z
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@BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers thatās pretty fascinating, actually - Iād always just seen it from the American side.And your last paragraph lists much of the music that was being played around the house by my older siblings when I was young (it was a gloriously musical house, mom&dad were playing classical and big band, siblings were playing tons of 50ās/60ās/70ās music) - it all had a big impact on me.
(DIR) Post #ASspDPlQQdcQaq32Fk by klausfiend@dcerberus.com
2023-02-20T21:29:51Z
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@BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers the choice to record a Leadbelly song for their live MTV album was not an accident, I think a lot of punk/indie kids had a better sense of their roots than most expected.
(DIR) Post #ASspp2tvsdeSgoyGum by oiseau_d_eau@masto.ai
2023-02-20T21:15:29Z
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@BarrenPlanet @luis_in_brief @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Not Dave Ghrol. At least he's honest?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZCrdSC2-1I
(DIR) Post #ASss5GK3wmmWrD3O2C by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-20T22:02:01Z
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@oiseau_d_eau @luis_in_brief @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Oh wow. Dave Grohl confirming it in his own words.Bookmarked! No-one can deny it ever again!
(DIR) Post #ASswXV3b9rAwTq4ZhA by Voline@kolektiva.social
2023-02-20T22:28:52Z
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@klausfiend @BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers As a waitress said to us, the kitchen staff, as we sang along to the music in a diner in Austin in 1989, āHow come all you little punk rockers know all of Hank Williamsā lyrics?ā
(DIR) Post #ASswXVfWspW6NTorom by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-20T22:51:56Z
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@Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Yeah even the *original* British skinheads embraced Black music. It was a subculture only later overtaken by fascists.This movie tells the story.https://youtu.be/Pm3roVvKMpo
(DIR) Post #ASuhawwqo11Yr71W76 by Chuck_ORourke@mastodon.social
2023-02-21T15:59:16Z
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@Voline @klausfiend @BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers @alesplin 80ās alternative was pretty open minded. You had R.E.M, Black Flag, Fishbone, Dwight Yoakam, Husker Du, U2, Los Lobos, The Replacements, The Smiths, Depeche Mode, Run DMC.
(DIR) Post #ASuhayVd0CR9hGInxY by Voline@kolektiva.social
2023-02-21T18:43:01Z
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@Chuck_ORourke @klausfiend @BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers @alesplin Which is why Nirvana was not a phenomenon among the alternative scene. If youāve already been listening to the Nation of Ulysses and The Gories, Nevermind was not going to blow your mind. The main effect was 2nd order. Post Nevermind suddenly there were crowds of frat boys at Liberty Lunch and Emoās. This was definitely not welcome.
(DIR) Post #ASuhazSTTPVadlpngO by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-21T19:13:54Z
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@Voline @Chuck_ORourke @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers @alesplin And Cobain himself was painfully aware of this, of course, which was among the factors that contributed to his suicide. He just couldn't resolve that internal contradiction between wanting to lead the "biggest rock band in the world"...while also somehow remaining underground and true to his roots and influences. He called Nevermind "lame".Listen to his acoustic cover of Bowie's The Man Who Sold the World, and his sadness about guilt about this is palpable.
(DIR) Post #ASuhp34Ar6CJsvAhs0 by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-21T19:16:28Z
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@Voline @Chuck_ORourke @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers @alesplin And Cobain himself was painfully aware of this, of course, which was among the factors that contributed to his suicide. He just couldn't resolve that internal contradiction between wanting to lead the "biggest rock band in the world"...while also somehow remaining underground and true to his roots and influences. He called Nevermind "lame".Listen to his acoustic cover of Bowie's The Man Who Sold the World, and his sadness and guilt are palpable.
(DIR) Post #ASunrA5EKw6bx53ZI0 by Voline@kolektiva.social
2023-02-21T20:24:02Z
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@BarrenPlanet @Chuck_ORourke @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers @alesplin And set off to Chicago to make their follow-up record with the chief curmudgeon of authenticity, Steve Albini.
(DIR) Post #ASurILMEpK1KbFfHHM by Chuck_ORourke@mastodon.social
2023-02-21T21:02:35Z
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@BarrenPlanet @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers @alesplin The whole 90ās thing was too metal for me. To go from Echo and The Bunnymen and New Order and The Hoodoo Gurus to all that Marshall stack stuff didnāt seem like an alternative to much. The best thing about was at least it was leftist hard rock instead of the usual devil crap but with all the heroin it was probably really just nihilistic.
(DIR) Post #ASuwvBCp0LT2B9b9Jw by alesplin@mastodon.world
2023-02-21T21:23:19Z
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@Chuck_ORourke @BarrenPlanet @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Turns out, perhaps unsurprisingly since I'm a huge fan of the early Black bluesmen (Muddy, John Lee Hooker, Robert Johnson, The Kings, etc), that the music I most like is the music thatās between 1 and like 3 or 4 degrees removed from those early blues.
(DIR) Post #ASuwvBxGDgc8VBKEhk by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-21T22:05:38Z
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@alesplin @Chuck_ORourke @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers I'll put my cards on the table here, I strongly dislike nearly all metal. It just doesn't resonate with me. The only reason I loved grunge (some of it) was because the kids weren't only angry, they were disillusioned and disappointed. It was heartfelt. But it was never actually going to change anything. In it's own way, was a critique of society. Plus it was melodic, despite the screaming and anger.I can relate more to music that came before my generation, such as The Clash, who quite literally advocated for robbing banks, if you're poor. Oh yeah NOW we're talking...https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
(DIR) Post #ASux7VOxk78OI39dJY by klausfiend@dcerberus.com
2023-02-21T22:07:51Z
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@BarrenPlanet @alesplin @Chuck_ORourke @Voline @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers just wait until you hear "Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables" or either of the first two Gang of Four albums š
(DIR) Post #ASuxbExlQT3Bzgbwvo by Chuck_ORourke@mastodon.social
2023-02-21T22:13:13Z
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@BarrenPlanet @alesplin @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Iām the same itās just to sonically similar song to song. I love great rock and roll singles though so āLiving after midnightā, āRun to the hillsā. I love great stuff. If you havenāt heard āRun to the Hillsā truly harrowing. Almost up there with āBodiesā by the Pistols.
(DIR) Post #ASuypUI5Kn0RXZTQNU by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-21T22:27:01Z
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@Chuck_ORourke @alesplin @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers@techhub.socia The only Iron Maiden song I ever loved. But it's entirely performative.If you can find one single indigenous American who feels that their lives have been improved by Bruce Dickson riding on the back of their stuggles for money, fair enough.Otherwise it's just yt people shouting at yt people.ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
(DIR) Post #ASuzMNMA8Wo1ag3yJk by Chuck_ORourke@mastodon.social
2023-02-21T22:32:57Z
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@BarrenPlanet @alesplin @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke I donāt know if he expected it to help but it might have made some people think for a couple of minutes. I donāt think many people get much from lyrics. I take art for its immediate impact and donāt expect it to change the world. If it makes people happier and therefore kinder to each other for a bit. I suspect thatās the best you can hope.
(DIR) Post #ASv1HBcUXscFeOM1QW by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-21T22:54:26Z
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@Chuck_ORourke @alesplin @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke Well @mekkaokereke has pointed out that been no change in mindset based on his posts. This sort of exchange proves his point. The person to whom I brought the entirely objective and true info, about the failure of Iron Maiden to move any hearts or minds - or even care about trying to do so - resulted in a block from the person to whom I made that point.Because they prioritise their heavy metal fandom above the lives of real people.
(DIR) Post #ASv2EmSfDHG6zvAqbQ by Chuck_ORourke@mastodon.social
2023-02-21T23:05:12Z
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@BarrenPlanet @alesplin @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke This person didnāt believe the treatment of the indigenous Americans was genocide?
(DIR) Post #ASv3TGFrL2d7PPea00 by alesplin@mastodon.world
2023-02-21T21:12:26Z
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@Chuck_ORourke @BarrenPlanet @Voline @klausfiend @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers I was a teenager in the 90ās, and I didn't really follow the evolution of metal. My dad introduced me to Black Sabbath (_heavily_ influenced by Chicago blues) when I was like 12, and the more metal sort of evolved away from that the less I liked it. So I was a fan of Metallica and their early contemporaries, but I never got on board with stuff like Pantera and such.
(DIR) Post #ASv3TH0IYNmDjRNfNo by klausfiend@dcerberus.com
2023-02-21T21:22:47Z
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@alesplin @Chuck_ORourke @BarrenPlanet @Voline @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers early metal owes a great deal to Judas Priest for its sound, and it's not like Halford was some kind of frat boy ... it still amuses me how much queerness was integrated into 80s metal, and yet a lot of its biggest fanboys never caught on
(DIR) Post #ASv3THXGZo9FNgnzlo by Voline@kolektiva.social
2023-02-21T23:05:48Z
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@klausfiend @alesplin @Chuck_ORourke @BarrenPlanet @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Overheard in the hallway in high school: āDude, that band are fags. Iām into Judas Priest ā¦ā š¶
(DIR) Post #ASv3TI60UdwB7R3jv6 by BarrenPlanet@c.im
2023-02-21T23:19:01Z
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@Voline @klausfiend @alesplin @Chuck_ORourke @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers As a "fag" (actually bi, but that's still queer) man, who could effortlessly beat the living shit out of most of your friends...keep that talk in your mouth, please.
(DIR) Post #ASv3cf2CZr76rskP9U by Voline@kolektiva.social
2023-02-21T23:20:42Z
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@BarrenPlanet @klausfiend @alesplin @Chuck_ORourke @CodexArcanum @mekkaokereke @joshrivers Those clowns were not my friends.