Post ASp7bT7sbJsEVtKZ8K by Helchose@mastodon.sdf.org
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(DIR) Post #ASox4E0kmIBiXNVUZs by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T00:38:41Z
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Here's how Musk could have dealt with SMS 2FA costs on #Twitter without putting current users at risk:1) Announce that starting on such-and-such a date (at least 30 days in the future, let's say) new Twitter accounts cannot use SMS 2FA. This will result in fewer and fewer accounts using SMS 2FA over time by attrition. This change would NOT affect existing accounts already depending on SMS 2FA.and ...2) Announce that as an incentive if you switch from SMS 2FA to a different SMS system (auth codes, security key) you will receive a year of Twitter Blue at no charge. Once you switch off SMS 2FA you can't turn it back on. - - -Instead, he will just turn off all 2FA for anyone currently using SMS 2FA who is unable to switch to a different method, who doesn't understand the issues, etc.Obviously truly caring about his users is not among his limited actual abilities.
(DIR) Post #ASoxUzt1OwLWY6ekzY by JRBuckley@mastodon.coffee
2023-02-19T00:43:30Z
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@lauren Considering that they're having a hard time keeping the lights on, he probably needs to cut that expense immediately.And, of course, because he's an idiot.
(DIR) Post #ASoxWgB1eUXi03sbUe by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T00:43:53Z
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@JRBuckley A few less trips on his private jet would do wonders.
(DIR) Post #ASoxacYt2Ebrwiv6Yq by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T00:44:27Z
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@JRBuckley OR, he could let everyone work remote and cut down on office costs enormously.
(DIR) Post #ASoxwIXc9SAoDyf4Ai by ncweaver@thecooltable.wtf
2023-02-19T00:48:25Z
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@lauren @chancerydaily And it isn't like the cost is that high (the claims that this is costing Twitter $60M/month are lunacy). Twilio starts at $.0079/message, and it rapidly decreases as you send more. But even 1B SMS/month at that price is just $7.5M, not the claimed $60M. And by the time you hit 1B messages, the next 1B cost $500K...
(DIR) Post #ASoy1tgpSej2t2dpD6 by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T00:49:27Z
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Additional notes: You would not be permitted to switch back to SMS 2FA if you already are on an alternative method, just to try switch again! There also needs to be an incentive for people *already* using alternative methods. Details open for discussion.
(DIR) Post #ASoyGJMsmpyAa4BWEq by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T00:52:04Z
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@ncweaver @chancerydaily Agree 100%.
(DIR) Post #ASoyPBsS0U1NxFBUno by karabaic@mastodon.social
2023-02-19T00:53:36Z
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@lauren The year of blue is probably too rich an incentive for per-user SMS savings. A month probably works, 60 days if you set up a CC with auto-renewal. Then you can subsidize savings with some paid subs.
(DIR) Post #ASoyYsdgOAJPBTtgiu by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T00:55:25Z
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@karabaic Yeah, I was just thinking that a year was pushing it. But you want to give people time to figure it out. Can we compromise at 90 days free with auto-renewal?
(DIR) Post #ASoynH0CbUKundIGfI by russes@social.vivaldi.net
2023-02-19T00:57:47Z
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@lauren Elon can’t afford to give Twitter Blue away. Twitter’s interest service is simply too high for free Twitter Blue.
(DIR) Post #ASoyp2BeepGNQiUS9I by JRBuckley@mastodon.coffee
2023-02-19T00:57:50Z
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@lauren Easier to yell at people in person, y'know?
(DIR) Post #ASozCKjxqIhtdHeF6W by karabaic@mastodon.social
2023-02-19T01:02:32Z
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@lauren I’ll run the numbers & get back to you. 😆Honestly, you’re probably right that 60-90 days works better because you’re balancing folks forgetting about it and being able to charge them vs the cc not working. You probably need to validate it every month.B2C and SMB accounts receivable / churn analysis sucks
(DIR) Post #ASp09Uz1P4DGUAu3ou by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T01:13:07Z
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@timo @ncweaver @chancerydaily However, these messages only occur when at account login time. And most active accounts stay logged in.
(DIR) Post #ASp0DFIBgROUynedu4 by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T01:13:48Z
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@timo @ncweaver @chancerydaily And that 60M figure doesn't make sense. Let him show us the invoice.
(DIR) Post #ASp0P5X7nFTMBgHw5g by russes@social.vivaldi.net
2023-02-19T01:15:58Z
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@lauren How much of Elon’s installed base has already migrated to iOS 16?A sugar-coated migration of every iOS 16 Twitter user to Apple’s Passkeys would be the best solution. Lather, rinse, & repeat for Android users.
(DIR) Post #ASp0SY22IDLzRWOdyy by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T01:16:42Z
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@russes Doesn't solve the basic problem of people without smartphones.
(DIR) Post #ASp0b3F28jsuYRWxuK by timo@social.hetzel.net
2023-02-19T01:17:26Z
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@lauren @ncweaver @chancerydaily he’s full of shit, no doubt there. Just saying that pricing differs wildly internationally.
(DIR) Post #ASp0b3y3RLtgo4av56 by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T01:18:08Z
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@timo @ncweaver @chancerydaily Hell, he might just cut off the EU then. He'd probably figure that had other benefits.
(DIR) Post #ASp1KzK92OClj1pGHA by russes@social.vivaldi.net
2023-02-19T01:26:25Z
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@lauren You’d need a sugar-coated 2FA alternative for desktop-bound users.
(DIR) Post #ASp1SCmzN9sRVvl6nI by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T01:27:48Z
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@russes While I have a very advanced mobile phone, I don't have it with me all the time, and I don't have it on all the time. At my desktop, I do have a Linux-based auth app, but it's kinda a pain.
(DIR) Post #ASp2zb36IOlCGUmTya by russes@social.vivaldi.net
2023-02-19T01:45:03Z
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@lauren I switched to Yubico keys last year. Easier solution the major Internet services.
(DIR) Post #ASp35cleop21KhUpiC by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-19T01:46:10Z
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@russes Great for services that support it. I've been using keys for years. BUT some of the services that most need to support it -- don't.
(DIR) Post #ASp4LJu2pCuxPdT33I by russes@social.vivaldi.net
2023-02-19T02:00:02Z
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@lauren You’re preaching to the choir.1Password + authentication apps + SMS + Yubico. Someday, I’m going to lock myself out. 😉
(DIR) Post #ASp7bT7sbJsEVtKZ8K by Helchose@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-02-19T02:36:42Z
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@lauren Shit, that might've enticed to try out Twitter Blue, but at this point screw it.
(DIR) Post #ASpObWhwyy9CqJodqi by OldHound@masto.ai
2023-02-19T05:47:11Z
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@lauren Musk is completely ill-suited to be Twitter CEO. He’s used to running companies with first mover advantage. He doesn’t really understand how to build a business that has stiff competition and how to entice consumers to his product (we’ll see how Tesla does in the next year or so with increasing EV competition).
(DIR) Post #ASpje2zs09xibOEzjs by fredbrooker@witter.cz
2023-02-19T09:42:44Z
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@lauren he's autistic, he doesn't get what a social platform is
(DIR) Post #ASrRtRmGjxVOwVzaoC by steyrshrek@techhub.social
2023-02-20T05:33:28Z
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@lauren but if he gave us Twitter Blue then we wouldn’t have to change because Twitter Blue will still allow you to do 2FA on SMS.