Post ASoEeRatG6LR9SJ2Rc by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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 (DIR) Post #ASmt32P5f0si7C9I4e by drq@mastodon.ml
       2023-02-18T00:44:27Z
       
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       @ariadne We used to be smarter, what the fuck have we done to ourselves...
       
 (DIR) Post #ASmttB0ku3PLrwd0Uq by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-02-18T00:50:18.942921Z
       
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       @ariadne Reminds me of the people being like "Abolish copyright!" while a lack of copyleft would be a disaster.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASn7TSEVeIDL6vgrWi by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-02-18T03:25:22.442291Z
       
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       @lispi314 @ariadne No copyleft would pretty much mean routers and smartphones being proprietary.And reverse-engineering is a legal pain in the ass, specially outside of EU where you're hard-stuck to clean-room.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASn8hXAiBQw2R7BvzU by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-02-18T03:39:21.102089Z
       
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       @lispi314 @ariadne Patents work regardless of implementation, that's why I hate them in fact.And I think without basic protections against reverse-engineering you would probably get things that are even more horribly closed down, you would replace a social/economical problem with a technical problem.For example I wouldn't want even more consumer hardware without UART and JTAG connections, and TiVoisation (or SecureBoot, same kind of shit really) to get even more common.I'd rather force-push for non-EU folks to get EU-like copyright exceptions (like allowing single-person reverse-engineering for interoperability reasons).
       
 (DIR) Post #ASnAmE5GmKZ2ap0kls by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-02-18T04:02:42.489451Z
       
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       @lispi314 @ariadne Meanwhile even getting just public institutions to open their codebases is a struggle…
       
 (DIR) Post #ASoEePr7im8plDsyTA by corbin@defcon.social
       2023-02-18T15:36:40Z
       
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       @lanodan @lispi314 @ariadne This is a slight misstatement of what would be legal in a world (or at least a USA) without copyright.I've helped reverse-engineer a few systems, from GPU drivers to video-game servers. If copyright didn't exist, then in every case, we could have skipped the cleanroom steps and folks could have ignored any taint when writing open documentation.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASoEeRatG6LR9SJ2Rc by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2023-02-18T16:20:05.419672Z
       
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       @corbin @lispi314 @ariadne Said already: https://mastodon.top/@lispi314/109883618381909285