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(DIR) Post #ASlsklWDVQ2vNOoFA8 by briankrebs@infosec.exchange
2023-02-17T12:54:03Z
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I'm pretty sure Mastodon is the first social network I've been on that didn't immediately ask me to betray all of the people in my address book.
(DIR) Post #ASlskmC2ztVTT8NeMa by pgv@omglol.fun
2023-02-17T13:06:32.687333Z
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@briankrebs I hadn’t even noticed, but you’re right. On the other hand, if we’re feeling nostalgic we can always copy paste it in to some request headers or something.
(DIR) Post #ASlyIfWSnxP2OeuVma by dalias@hachyderm.io
2023-02-17T14:03:37Z
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@briankrebs The concept of devices having a global contacts list, rather than each app having its own, is just so stupid and ripe for abuse. There are exactly zero times I've wanted to use someone's legacy POTS phone number in a context other than the stock phone/SMS apps (which could & should have been a single unified thing so as not to have to share data).
(DIR) Post #ASlyIu9cPB2dm9Kyky by jomo@mstdn.io
2023-02-17T14:08:29Z
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@dalias @briankrebs this. It's terrible how you share all contact details, i.e. contact's photo, email address, postal address, etc when you'd just need the phone mumber for contact discovery
(DIR) Post #ASlyrtNnGUA7WDeQU4 by dalias@hachyderm.io
2023-02-17T14:12:15Z
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@jomo @briankrebs Ok but I don't even want contact discovery except manually. Just because I've once contacted a person on one channel doesn't mean I want to see and be seen by them on every random platform we happen to use. For the vast majority of contacts, a single preferred platform/channel to reach them thru is (more than) sufficient.
(DIR) Post #ASm0kSuzSdsDJzlU5Q by jomo@mstdn.io
2023-02-17T14:35:55Z
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@dalias @briankrebs agree, it's overall terrible how mobile OS handle this.
(DIR) Post #ASm1Ct81bbFWifPm1w by seth@s3th.me
2023-02-17T14:39:45Z
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@briankrebs You know what? You're right!
(DIR) Post #ASm21ntIq0J7FDo5su by rimugu@liberdon.com
2023-02-17T14:50:27Z
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@briankrebs That is an interest take.No social network I have been in has asked me to betray anyone.They try to manipulate me, but none as ASKED to betray (all they do is without asking and rarely they do something in my or my friends benefit).
(DIR) Post #ASm29t3DXMvJZ3IaOW by briankrebs@infosec.exchange
2023-02-17T13:20:23Z
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I mean, think about this for just a sec: LinkedIn, Twitter, SnapChat, Instagram, the list goes on and on. The VERY first thing these platforms will do after you've installed the app and logged in is to ask you to share all of the information in your address book. Ever wonder how these social networks got so big so fast? It's remarkable how much of their growth is based on convincing everyone it's totally fine and normal to give away all of the contact information given to them by friends, family and acquaintances.
(DIR) Post #ASm2DatF07baOiOrmC by Loukas@mastodon.nu
2023-02-17T12:56:01Z
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@briankrebs now I'm imagining how signing up with all the others is like being a member of the French resistance captured by the Gestapo.WE WANT NAMES
(DIR) Post #ASm2vNX81Q7fiLw2kK by thedude33@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-17T15:00:31Z
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@briankrebs they want personal contacts for car loans now. No joke! happened to me 2 years ago with Dodge. I promptly cancelled my purchase and bought a used one for cash. the salesman was bewildered, like I was the only one ever pushing back on it.
(DIR) Post #ASmKai0GWCMaIJrDQu by jurjen_heeck@mastodon.nl
2023-02-17T13:22:26Z
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@briankrebs The one & only reason I refuse to use or even install those apps on devices containing address information. I only have an Instagram app on a tablet with zero contacts.
(DIR) Post #ASmKaig60fp8O3QcdM by fomm@social.tchncs.de
2023-02-17T13:28:50Z
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@jurjen_heeck @briankrebs Even if you have never been registered on Facebook etc.: Facebook knows your mobile number and mail address because other people have already uploaded them.You can delete your phone number/mail address from meta's database via the following website:https://www.facebook.com/contacts/removal
(DIR) Post #ASnPUBeKadHb8tGcmO by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-18T06:48:01Z
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@briankrebs Even #Signal does this.
(DIR) Post #ASnPaxcP9hIZeXb15U by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-18T06:49:15Z
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@briankrebs #Matrix and #XMPP also are 🔥🔥🔥 wrt trying to provide you with privacy rather than taking Jr from you (afaik)
(DIR) Post #ASo5oheDWkZIFWgAng by cherti@chaos.social
2023-02-18T14:42:19Z
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@Jdreben @briankrebs That's not actually accurate, Signal goes out of their way to ensure that if you decide to check your address book against the server directory, the servers cryptographically guarantee that they (and hence Signal) retain nothing of that, which is pretty cool tech. And even with all the flaws in Intel's SGX that I am aware of, they still try and have shown significant effort to make sure they can't retain what you upload. Pretty cool tech development if you ask me. :)
(DIR) Post #ASo6jbiSFmEYMJnNDM by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-18T14:52:37Z
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@cherti @briankrebs I did *not* know this and am very glad to hear it. Thank you for sharing! I will edit my OG post so as to not spread misinfo. :)
(DIR) Post #ASo78bxcTtLaMCoN2u by cherti@chaos.social
2023-02-18T14:57:07Z
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@Jdreben @briankrebs yw :)For more technical details, in case you want to read some more on it:1. Problem analysis and solution review (from 2014): https://signal.org/blog/contact-discovery/2. The (current) solution: https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/3. Some tech upgrades to the solution: https://signal.org/blog/building-faster-oram/
(DIR) Post #ASo7VGjLa3kzAnwJMW by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-18T15:01:14Z
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@cherti Thank you so much for the links! Will definitely check those out
(DIR) Post #ATegr0l6p8i8yE50eO by PublicLewdness@freespeechextremist.com
2023-03-15T23:42:21.249757Z
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@briankrebs Which people are those ? We need names and contact info.
(DIR) Post #AVNoMrJXMo8ovBKgvQ by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2023-05-06T16:00:39.301860Z
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@briankrebs Wait until you realise it's fedi.
(DIR) Post #AY50yPoAyqkfXUIirA by tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.net
2023-07-26T07:58:40Z
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@briankrebs #xmpp too
(DIR) Post #AY5AEvTXuR1vySbCzo by jabberati@social.anoxinon.de
2023-07-26T09:42:23Z
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@tuxicoman @briankrebs XMPP clients don't do this. Conversations asks for address book permission to look for XMPP addresses in your contacts *locally*. Nothing is ever uploaded to your server.