Post ASkFyomg4RxIBiG6T2 by atoponce@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #ASjnd7gIKlchi08jDc by faho@octodon.social
2023-02-15T16:15:13Z
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Which browser do you use?
(DIR) Post #ASjne6CzILQRQltgVU by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2023-02-16T12:59:53.876269Z
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What’s #FreeChrome?
(DIR) Post #ASjoEW24l8MRwo9qzI by colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com
2023-02-16T13:01:09.885688Z
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@realcaseyrollins @faho UnGoogled Chromium I assume
(DIR) Post #ASjs060N8DwuzGjywC by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T13:48:16Z
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@faho Ha! Great minds think alike :blobcatgiggle: :blobcatscience:
(DIR) Post #ASjs1ADQxhc6KtMLSa by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T13:48:53.561597Z
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@faho which one's the homophobe chrome
(DIR) Post #ASjs2zGsckVqyIqC1I by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T13:49:13.325452Z
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@faho oh i get it<
(DIR) Post #ASjsaAj13mFi3EpCxU by paul@notnull.click
2023-02-16T13:55:09.143877Z
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@faho Blue Firefox (not Blue Firefox 2) :blobcheeky: Sometimes I do use Vim Chrome though
(DIR) Post #ASjsbbOtMo2N4b5tRo by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T13:55:26Z
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@faho Tor, which is Firefox, basically, and sometimes other ones just for fun
(DIR) Post #ASjsj4tO7CXOZFvHlI by schuelermine@mastodon.online
2023-02-15T18:55:04Z
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@faho wait which one is homophobe chrome
(DIR) Post #ASjsj5eBJDy4uNoehM by faho@octodon.social
2023-02-15T19:00:04Z
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@schuelermine Brave
(DIR) Post #ASjsj6OGXspbDJNSWu by schuelermine@mastodon.online
2023-02-15T19:00:30Z
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@faho oh interesting, what’s it done that’s homophobic?
(DIR) Post #ASjsj6uWbwdSpMTDoO by faho@octodon.social
2023-02-15T19:04:29Z
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@schuelermine Brendan Eich founded Brave after he left Mozilla because it came out that he had donated against gay marriage.
(DIR) Post #ASjsj7SYZPrEWuOOrA by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-02-16T11:06:09Z
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@faho @schuelermine That sucks. Have to remember to delete Brave from my blog later. Any alternative recommendations I didn't already mention in it?
(DIR) Post #ASjsj80aWt50ESJZtw by sotolf@social.linux.pizza
2023-02-16T13:54:55Z
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@Natanox @faho @schuelermine qutebrowser maybe, I've been using it and it's pretty good, it's based on qtwebengine though that has some relation to chrome, but I don't think it's based on chrome.
(DIR) Post #ASjspwhkxGM5CXl0m8 by tomkoid@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T13:49:38Z
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@faho I use LibreWolf
(DIR) Post #ASjsr1NX3yzJzDoJ3Q by sotolf@social.linux.pizza
2023-02-16T13:57:35Z
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@me @faho Norwegian Chrome is „new“ opera, the old one was on a custom engine.Norwegian Chrome 2 is Vivaldi :)
(DIR) Post #ASjwTqryMweCY8FwDg by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T14:38:53Z
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@Natanox @faho @schuelermine is this blog about privacy? Then you should remove Firefox too because Mozilla is paid by Google to sell user data.Ungoogled Chromium is a decent alternative though (just be careful because not all packages are updated regularly)
(DIR) Post #ASjxNsK49ZiPGz6ugK by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T14:49:00Z
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@faho poll in the correct way:FirefoxGoogle SafariFree Google SafariMicrosoft Google SafariSafariNorwegian Google SafariHomophobe Google SafariNorwegian Google Safari 2additional options:Linux SafariWolf Firefox (my favorite btw)Data analyzer (Cold) FirefoxCat Firefox
(DIR) Post #ASk2FEljpRYY3Nkpns by viceview51@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T15:43:28Z
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@fosserytech @Natanox @faho @schuelermine you mean to have as a default search engine - if you choose to use Google services in Firefox it's no different than in any other browser.
(DIR) Post #ASk2tfBb1vGHZH7s1o by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-02-16T15:50:44Z
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@fosserytech @faho @schuelermine You can't possibly vote for a Chromium-based browser as alternative to Firefox and still be pro-privacy, given how far Google is in controlling the entire internet. The whole discussion about Mozilla is highly controversial too, although I concur there are more private options than vanilla Firefox - f.e. Librewolf.I also always balance the blog content in terms of accessibility. I do even mention proprietary software.
(DIR) Post #ASkFiTsg1LqaiyH5g8 by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T18:14:22.817723Z
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@thatonecalculator @faho brendan eich
(DIR) Post #ASkFqSy7IRJqDBcvNg by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T12:53:55Z
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@faho I would have called it "Crypto Chrome" as it's not the browser that is homophobic, but the CEO.
(DIR) Post #ASkFqTcWsBe4EWXCN6 by PoliteMenace@social.ridetrans.it
2023-02-16T14:45:07Z
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@atoponce @faho using Homophobe Chrome supports the homophobic CEO, therefore it is accurate call it the Homophobe Chrome.
(DIR) Post #ASkFqU5F9Qc7fZy880 by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T15:39:59Z
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@PoliteMenace @faho What is homophobic about Brave?
(DIR) Post #ASkFqUb9Eo8PGWtbrE by faho@octodon.social
2023-02-16T16:13:18Z
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@atoponce Brendan Eich founded Brave after he left Mozilla because it came out that he had donated against gay marriage.That means by using Brave, you are causing him to make more money he can then spend on homophobia. Not just say bad words in private, spend his actual money on it.It's also not just some random rank-and-file person working on the browser, it's the founder and CEO.
(DIR) Post #ASkFqV6hLVN6qNeo2C by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T16:37:29Z
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@faho I'm aware of the history and the controversy. The CEO may be homophobic, but the browser isn't. "Homophobe" describes the inventor, not the product. Also, how does using Brave make more money for Brendan? The crypto ads can be trivially disabled, although to be fair, they aren't by default.
(DIR) Post #ASkFqVYLghUQE8at8K by PoliteMenace@social.ridetrans.it
2023-02-16T17:56:00Z
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@atoponce @faho using a product supports the organization that makes it. If he was no longer part of the organization maybe you could argue that it’s not the Homophobe Browser, but he is the CEO, using it supports him. It is a browser for people who are okay with homophobia.
(DIR) Post #ASkFqW0hzGAte5rXKy by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T17:57:57Z
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@PoliteMenace @faho Disagreed. Brave users are not paying for the browser and can support LGBT+ rights while using it.
(DIR) Post #ASkFqWSiJ8Zn2wxtzM by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T18:15:50.519441Z
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@atoponce @PoliteMenace @faho >Brave users are not paying for the browser your argument would've been less laughable if Brave didn't have paid crypto shit
(DIR) Post #ASkFyomg4RxIBiG6T2 by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T18:16:31Z
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@meso @faho @PoliteMenace ... which you can trivially disable.
(DIR) Post #ASkFypB8bVWNPZhdaq by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T18:17:22.288496Z
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@atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace you can disable many things but this does not change much
(DIR) Post #ASkG5n3ctACQrNVjrU by Paulo@rdrama.cc
2023-02-16T18:18:38.989961Z
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@meso @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace crypto shit is disabled by default
(DIR) Post #ASkGbDEHdGBx0XTkvI by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T18:24:19.675208Z
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@Paulo @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace I strongly disagree
(DIR) Post #ASkHWtgcRzedByEsYy by Paulo@rdrama.cc
2023-02-16T18:34:44.986740Z
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@meso @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace hey meso you should join the fediblock.me 1.19.3 minecraft server
(DIR) Post #ASkHlcZmLffgT93o9o by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-02-16T18:37:24.783974Z
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@Paulo @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace :cat_pain:
(DIR) Post #ASkHnNPFij1803yRNo by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-02-16T18:37:43.708630Z
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@Paulo @meso @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace I WILL FIX MY PUTER TODAY AND YOU WILL SEE ME
(DIR) Post #ASkHvmkBOqKQtqm0q8 by Ace66062@bae.st
2023-02-16T18:39:15.063054Z
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@PoliteMenace @atoponce @faho @Paulo @meso @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace 1984
(DIR) Post #ASkJvpiKYZhk1I3dEO by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2023-02-16T19:01:36.526023Z
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@atoponce @meso @faho @PoliteMenace Alright? I can trivially tweak chromium or firefox to make them good. The crypto miner is the MAIN ADVERTISED FEATURE. Why could you install brave just to disable it and then claim the browser is good?
(DIR) Post #ASkgZEXWO4TJIhC72O by thecyberd3m0n@101010.pl
2023-02-16T23:15:17Z
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@faho I must say that homophobic one is quite good (especially for mobile Youtube 😀 )
(DIR) Post #ASkgmJ0F6WjYuKrUGG by thecyberd3m0n@101010.pl
2023-02-16T23:17:39Z
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@PoliteMenace @atoponce @faho what if he'll learn something and stop being homophobic? He's also one of creators of JS, so my career is also homophobic?
(DIR) Post #ASkgtRg1FmmPpto5k8 by konstantin@m.iamkonstantin.eu
2023-02-16T18:08:23.785468Z
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@atoponce @PoliteMenace @faho let’s not split hairs here. If he was not part of the organisation, Brave would still be “the browser made by that homophobe”. And if for some reason folks find ways to excuse that, it’s the browser that has crypto in it. So “Scammy Homophobe Chrome”.
(DIR) Post #ASkgtSNcdfes18Cuhs by thecyberd3m0n@101010.pl
2023-02-16T23:18:56Z
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@konstantin @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace actually full web3 stack, you can connect it to blockchains. Also - there is nothing scammy in web3 projects like gitcoin or Gnosis Safe for example
(DIR) Post #ASkh8rSbfm5c98ssYy by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T18:14:31Z
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@konstantin @faho @PoliteMenace It's not splitting hairs. It's separating the person from the organization and the product.IMO, you're spending a lot of energy making decisions on what to use based on the political leanings of the inventor. I don't see this is as a practical approach for living. I'm sure I purchase food from farmers and ranchers that hold worse political views than Brendan Eich.
(DIR) Post #ASkh8s4BQ49C1gSt8K by konstantin@m.iamkonstantin.eu
2023-02-16T18:29:25.179248Z
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@atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace Being homophobic is not a political view, it's being a failure as a human being. Outside this thread, it costs me 0 energy and fucks to ignore the likes of homophobes, terfs, racists and their corporate babies.
(DIR) Post #ASkh8saRU7x3djYePo by atoponce@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T18:32:19Z
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@konstantin @faho @PoliteMenace Fuck homophobes. Fuck TERFs. Fuck racists. Fuck nazis. 💯
(DIR) Post #ASkh8t5zapBlDaJqam by PoliteMenace@social.ridetrans.it
2023-02-16T19:01:31Z
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@atoponce @konstantin @faho Funny how easy it is to say “Fuck X” but when people are like “this thing you use supports X, maybe find an alternative “ you jump through hoops to try and defend using it rather than enduring the smallest inconvenience. It’s the same shit with the TERF Wizard game, “allies” have spines made of butter once something shiny catches their eye.
(DIR) Post #ASkh8tbtgCi2oXFKK0 by thecyberd3m0n@101010.pl
2023-02-16T23:21:42Z
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@PoliteMenace @atoponce @konstantin @faho so what stop using Mastodon because it uses Javascript?what if he'll change his views, you'll hate him for the past?
(DIR) Post #ASkhzMJcCRxetqi9xI by thecyberd3m0n@101010.pl
2023-02-16T23:31:12Z
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@konstantin @atoponce @faho @PoliteMenace and it has TOR, IPFS and Torrent client in-built. I support decentralization and p2p tech.
(DIR) Post #ASkkPwsr3tRBkh082q by SkatorGaytor@mastodon.social
2023-02-16T23:58:24Z
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@fosserytech @Natanox @faho @schuelermine another good reason for using Firefox is it's fundamentally different under the hood from chrome. If everyone uses chrome (they almost already do) web developers will only check chrome compatibility and other web browsers will find it almost impossible to break into the market. Yes chromium is open source but google has veto over the project and can therefore push whatever web standards it likes.
(DIR) Post #ASllvDC2leg2QNPKuu by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-02-17T11:49:59Z
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@SkatorGaytor @Natanox @faho @schuelermine I also think that there should be more engines, not just Blink, don't get me wrong. The problem is that they sell user data. There's LibreWolf which is Firefox based and it does much better when it comes to privacy. I know it's not a mainstream browser but it isn't less usable than Firefox. UI is the same, and everything works the same (except the functions that require Mozilla account because those can't be implemented in a private way).
(DIR) Post #ASlm3UDXM9gfXZ3Gy0 by faho@octodon.social
2023-02-17T11:51:28Z
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@fosserytech @SkatorGaytor @Natanox@chaos.social (please untag me)
(DIR) Post #ASlmYc3gFmZiptHeYS by mxk@hachyderm.io
2023-02-16T22:23:45Z
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@Natanox @fosserytech @faho @schuelermine disagree, one can be "pro privacy" but not make it the dominating factor with the choice of the Webbrowser. Arguably for a lot of us, the Webbrowser is the single application we use most. I would expect most people to make this choice based on usability and UX things first and foremost.
(DIR) Post #ASlmYcUcdc7sBRtAY4 by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-02-17T11:57:06Z
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@mxk @Natanox @faho @schuelermine it depends on threat model. If you're ok with Firefox harvesting your data that's fine.(Although I don't think LibreWolf - which is a hardened Firefox - is less usable)
(DIR) Post #ASloeqZ3Qv6JTI3iPQ by mxk@hachyderm.io
2023-02-17T12:20:38Z
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@fosserytech @Natanox @schuelermine fun with the English language, but being "usable" and offering the usability that I am used to are two very different things. I have been using Presto Opera for ages and now use Vivaldi, simply because those do things, that no other browser does.Yes I would prefer there to be a true alternative to Blink, but as long as there is no browser that behaves like Opera, privacy concerns will probably not win me over.
(DIR) Post #ASlptpZRVgRcgfwvAm by SkatorGaytor@mastodon.social
2023-02-17T12:34:33Z
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@schuelermine yes I used librewolf for when I don't want to be tracked, it's a fantastic browser.
(DIR) Post #ASmBBBrrxdJRnjgfa4 by fosserytech@mstdn.social
2023-02-17T16:33:00Z
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@mxk @Natanox @schuelermine most people think about Chrome when it comes to browsers. Literally every browser can do what Chrome can (ok not Gnome Web but that's another topic). Opera and Vivaldi are completely different. They offer a ton of extra options that an average user doesn't need, just a few people.
(DIR) Post #ASnNUJp606ZWaHEmJ6 by slylittlefox@md.ilyamikcoder.com
2023-02-18T06:25:36Z
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@faho Norwegian Chrome?
(DIR) Post #ASos55haeml1Hn8Yng by nekofag@rdrama.cc
2023-02-18T23:43:05.937858Z
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@faho dude fuck YOUALL WEB BROWSERS FUCKING SUCKYOUR JUST BISEXUAL BECAUSE UR FAT AND STUPID AND WANT TO FUCK LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS AND UR FAT.............. FUCK YOU DUDEI FUCKING HATE ALL WEB BROWSERS THEY'RE ALL EXTREMELY MID. FUCK THE WEB........... FUCK YOU DUDE!!!!!! FUCK YOU 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 GET A LIFE