Post ASjrb9SDAg1ARcrs3M by anderseknert@hachyderm.io
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(DIR) Post #ASguwM9wqQtGJrFT2O by anildash@me.dm
2023-02-15T00:37:45Z
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There has absolutely not been a better opportunity in this century to build a successful new search engine for the internet. The dominant players are running full speed to make their offerings worse, and that’s after *years* of complaints that Google’s results are decaying.
(DIR) Post #AShsJQ0Yb3H2DA7Z6u by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-15T14:42:18.722680Z
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I hear Yahoo's throwing their hat back in the ring
(DIR) Post #ASjrb8s3L75udTwzh2 by stephenjudkins@mastodon.social
2023-02-15T00:46:44Z
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@anildash no, cloudflare and other anti-bot products make it largely impossible for new entrants. Google/bing crawlers are whitelisted
(DIR) Post #ASjrb9SDAg1ARcrs3M by anderseknert@hachyderm.io
2023-02-15T01:07:22Z
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@stephenjudkins @anildash or it’s the other way around — SEO spam of both human and increasingly AI origin, makes crawling a rather pointless exercise.. which is what we’re seeing.
(DIR) Post #ASjrbABaRyJWiM66mO by thelovebing@mastodon.nu
2023-02-15T06:57:01Z
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@anderseknert @stephenjudkins @anildash This. I am fairly sure search is kinda done for. We'll have to go to the library/curated places for information. Oh, and stores will have to become curated too, sell relatively few products that they actually know something about.Good news on many levels.
(DIR) Post #ASjrbAjcPRXIPu1HpA by Mojeek@mastodon.social
2023-02-16T11:07:29Z
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@thelovebing @anderseknert @stephenjudkins @anildash I doubt that as explained here: https://blog.mojeek.com/2023/02/will-chatbots-kill-the-search-star.html
(DIR) Post #ASjrbBAulxN1mYn5N2 by anderseknert@hachyderm.io
2023-02-16T12:18:27Z
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@Mojeek @thelovebing @stephenjudkins @anildash this isn’t about search engines incorporating AI but about AI creating SEO optimized crap content all over the web, rendering crawlers useless for finding anything of value.
(DIR) Post #ASjrbBrSDnOjuUh3g0 by Mojeek@mastodon.social
2023-02-16T13:37:19Z
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@anderseknert @thelovebing @stephenjudkins @anildash Understood. It's about both. Both eroding the web. A few closed "brains" is the next assault on the web, building and following the few walled gardens assault
(DIR) Post #ASjrbCKWTieNMeIGzA by paul@notnull.click
2023-02-16T13:44:03.362114Z
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@Mojeek @anderseknert @thelovebing @stephenjudkins @anildash whoever stays a:"Here's a list of places relevant to your search query where you may find the answer" - search engine and not a:"This is a story all about how your query got twist-turned upside down and I'd like to show an answer just sit right there it might not be fully accurate but I don't care" Chatty AI system wins my loyalty to be honest
(DIR) Post #ASjy2oVrDtBNKW9AQK by thelovebing@mastodon.nu
2023-02-16T14:52:09Z
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@paul @anderseknert @Mojeek @stephenjudkins @anildash Yeah, but with the Internet filled to the brim with (AI generated) SEO shite it really doesn't matter, that's my point. Chances of finding something useful in a pile of dung are slim regardless of what shovel you use.
(DIR) Post #ASjy2p613S6d8f42me by paul@notnull.click
2023-02-16T14:56:20.332063Z
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@thelovebing @anderseknert @stephenjudkins @Mojeek @anildash You're very right, but as soon as I sense AI generated content (normally after a couple of sentences) I go back and mentally block that base urlI'm happy to put in that extra load for my own wellbeing.Hmmm... those sites should have a "bot" icon in search results perhaps 🤣
(DIR) Post #ASoDYE1Cig09M85KBk by meowski@fluf.club
2023-02-18T16:08:49.576401Z
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@anildash been saying this myself. you need some serious infrastructure to index such a large amount of data though