Post ASjPR6DHZHqimUIriq by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
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 (DIR) Post #ASjKmO7LhDEicXrNKa by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2023-02-16T07:36:13Z
       
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       Funny that the people here use a decentralized thing (the fediverse) but they all want to use a centralized #DNS resolver, just discussing which one is the less evil. https://lazybear.social/@rysiek@mstdn.social/109869348282461143
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjLQM9qOxcI7s5MFk by sergedroz@infosec.exchange
       2023-02-16T07:43:34Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer The whole narrative of "We can't trust our ISP, thus we should give our Data to a few central providers is wrong. There are reasons to not trust your ISP, particular with ISPs inn certain regions. But I think what happened here is that the privayc debate went off rails and produces a solution that is not very privacy respecting at all. There is a good talk by @bert_hubert about this somewhere ...
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjLnRN7BLVUxQIf6u by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2023-02-16T07:47:44Z
       
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       @sergedroz @bert_hubert While the real solution is to have many resolvers (reachable via DoH and DoT, of course), everywhere. (Like we do with the fediverse.)
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjLs1daHzQeakBpD6 by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2023-02-16T07:48:32Z
       
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       @sergedroz @bert_hubert It's not just about privacy but also because of censorship: I don't use the DNS resolver of my access provider because it lies (it blocks SciHub, for instance).
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjMnziTacplQg7To8 by madnuttah@fosstodon.org
       2023-02-16T07:58:59Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer Speaking for myself, I prefer using my local #unbound #resolver.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjNFM1wjc8qSCGycS by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2023-02-16T08:03:06Z
       
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       @madnuttah Me too.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjPR5Wk7Rp0eYOtPs by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
       2023-02-16T08:09:18.878850Z
       
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       @bert_hubert @sergedroz @bortzmeyer We’d need a local resolver that would send queries randomly to an extremely long list of resolvers
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjPR6DHZHqimUIriq by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
       2023-02-16T08:28:28Z
       
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       @sxpert @bert_hubert @sergedroz From a privacy point of view, I would prefer queries to be forwarded to a small and closed list of trusted resolvers. But I understand there is merit in the dilution of queries
       
 (DIR) Post #ASjQR7TWyYTieKTdMu by sergedroz@infosec.exchange
       2023-02-16T08:39:15Z
       
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       @bortzmeyer @bert_hubert Good point, and certainly very true. And again it touches on a wider problem: We're bad at dealing with dilemas: There should be no blocking, especially in the public core of the internet, there should be no breaking crypto etc without very good reasons and full control over the collateral damage. The latter requirement pretty much rules out breaking crypto. But again: We have the priviacy crowd saying NoNoNo and the law enforcment crowd, saying break crypto and the copyright crowd saying block. Sci-Hub exists because of an underlying issue, not because people enjoy running this in their spare time. I'll stop ranting, but maybe using the internet as it was intended to be used, and sovling problesm smartly would prevent such discussions.