Post ASiaw3XkRvXfobscoi by visone@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #ASiVH4GeLurMPxWCTw by hehemrin@social.librem.one
2023-02-15T21:59:18Z
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Question to more compentent Linux persons: Except to get a later release of a software, is there any other reason(s) for (on Linux Mint) to install FlatPak, Snap or AppImage instead of a deb from the repository? #Linux #FlatPak #Snap #AppImage #deb #LinuxMint
(DIR) Post #ASia42k1DQRLgqrdU8 by mah@fosstodon.org
2023-02-15T22:52:59Z
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@hehemrin Easier portability of software, so it doesn't get locked in.One builds one flatpak, and everyone can use it.One builds a .deb for Ubuntu and people have to take it and patch, fix and maintain it for other distros, if they do.Also the potential for a distro to include flatpak with their custom made repo with a secure permission default for apps included is very good thing to look forward to IMO.
(DIR) Post #ASiaw3XkRvXfobscoi by visone@fosstodon.org
2023-02-15T23:02:44Z
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@hehemrin I would say, no one!!Personally, I'd only use Appimage as last resort in case any other option fail. I don't like snaps or flatpaks.Those pkgs are slower, weightier and heavier than debs
(DIR) Post #ASigCkJvfkeetGC5sO by hehemrin@social.librem.one
2023-02-16T00:01:46Z
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@visone Thanks, it is similar to my strategy. Currently I have no Snap, one FlatPak and a couple of AppImages. The FlatPak leads to quite many updates of eg Free Desktop. To me, the AppImage is better than FlatPak, but FlatPak has a great upside now when it is very integrated in Mint Update manager (for us who don't always use the terminal...).
(DIR) Post #ASigbeQMjPDlqL52Gm by memoryfile@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T00:06:17Z
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@hehemrin Adding onto what @mah said, I'd argue Flatpak is very important for the sustainability of the Linux desktop longterm compared to using formats like .deb. I wrote about it here: https://memoryfile.codeberg.page/posts/Distribution-packaging-for-Linux-desktop-applications-is-unsustainable/This talk is also very good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WuYGcs0t6I
(DIR) Post #ASihNdRzefDSitiqLA by hehemrin@social.librem.one
2023-02-16T00:14:56Z
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@memoryfile @mah Thanks, I will read later. So, with risk without having read or viewed a few comments... I have seen problems with FlatPak. My few AppImages works better. But I prefer deb. One FlatPak I tried quite a while ago was sooo old, seemed to be abandoned by the person who made the FlatPak (which appeared to have no relation to the original sw developer). Now I have one FlatPak, where there are quite often updates of Free desktop and whatever. But real issue is probably because it 1/2
(DIR) Post #ASihffOn9Kx1yip4ZE by hehemrin@social.librem.one
2023-02-16T00:18:13Z
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@memoryfile @mah is a container. It seems as it does not integrate as desirable. Which, as I understood is intentionally as it is a container. Probably it can be fixed with giving special permissions, but that really requires some skills, knowing what I am doing. I have not seem similar issues with deb. But I get the general advantage of easier to make a sw working for all Linux with container-concept (which I think is similar to macOS approach). 2/2
(DIR) Post #ASjPgyffNTEI1T9QZs by mah@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T08:31:28Z
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@hehemrin @memoryfile you haven't seen issues with .deb packages as they have access to everything, everywhere, all the time.with flatpak you have control over what a flatpak can access and if you don't feel like learning {flatpak override} you can use flatseal which is a GUI for managing flatpak permissions as you see fit.You gotta also remember that flatpak, much like distro packages, are volunteer work, if there aren't anyone stepping up to maintain a package, it will get abandoned.
(DIR) Post #ASjRtpvfOIfOaCtW1w by visone@fosstodon.org
2023-02-16T08:56:12Z
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@hehemrin Nowadays you don't need to use a terminal for installing software, whatever type of pkg you want/use, so the best tip I can give you is try them all, compare them all, and use what's best suit you. The choice has to be yours!!
(DIR) Post #ASjmyted4AOqccBBMu by hehemrin@social.librem.one
2023-02-16T12:52:27Z
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@mah @memoryfile Flatseal was new to me. I'll have to check it out!
(DIR) Post #ASmNteh9LILjOldsJM by probono@fosstodon.org
2023-02-17T18:55:29Z
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@hehemrin You can keep the application independently from the operating system, and you can use the same application on different distributions (multibooting). It's easy to store the application e.g., on a USB drive for use with Live ISOs.