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(DIR) Post #ASdwZV7ayV95t8UuqO by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-13T17:11:35Z
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We will have some reading to do on Thursday.The judge ordered the partial release of Georgia grand jury report on possible 2020 election crimes.I take "partial" to mean that the stuff we really want to know won't be there.Last month Fani Willis asked the report not to be published because it may interfere with her charging decisions.https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/13/judge-orders-partial-release-of-georgia-grand-jury-report-on-possible-2020-election-crimes-00082549She also said charging decisions are “imminent.”She said that 3 weeks ago, so you can see what "imminent" means in Lawyer Talk.
(DIR) Post #ASdyyxxl52ZAUCAPaq by cadenza@universeodon.com
2023-02-13T17:38:35Z
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@Teri_Kanefield yup. My lawsuit was filed last month so supposedly they’re going through discovery now. How long does discovery usually take?
(DIR) Post #ASdz5jFICGYQruapay by chipmason@triangletoot.party
2023-02-13T17:39:48Z
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@Teri_Kanefield well we now know that her definition of “imminent “ is different than the judge’s. Hopefully they converge on the judge’s definition.
(DIR) Post #ASdzaW2BMnMUs48ohE by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-13T17:45:22Z
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@cadenza I have never done civil litigation, but my guess is that you're looking at months (not weeks.)Good luck.
(DIR) Post #ASdzj6RPtFeU6O2TtA by cadenza@universeodon.com
2023-02-13T17:46:56Z
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@Teri_Kanefield yikes! Thanks for the info!
(DIR) Post #ASdzytFYhcs5p71KpE by Yogiomm@toad.social
2023-02-13T17:49:47Z
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@Teri_Kanefield C’mon Fani beat him to the punch! As a GA resident I want to see the GA FRAUDULENT electors indicted including the LT Guvna! #GOPTraitorsToDemocracy
(DIR) Post #ASe0fZX5t16Z7jZhVw by pammcst@mastodon.social
2023-02-13T17:57:28Z
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@Teri_Kanefield I'm curious what the report will say about this:"McBurney said he intends to put the introduction and conclusion to the summation on the public record this week, along with a portion of the report discussion about potential false statements made to the grand jury under oath."
(DIR) Post #ASe23jTafUQQrp1Ki0 by MoiraEve@mastodon.world
2023-02-13T18:13:03Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Is there a federal against pressuring officials to change election results? If not, do you think there should be?
(DIR) Post #ASe44361vBXPcrHM7k by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-13T18:35:33Z
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@cadenza To qualify, a lot depends on the complexity of the case. Simple cases won't have as much discovery. Your lawyer would have a better idea.
(DIR) Post #ASe4nTB1niknXpH6sC by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-13T18:43:44Z
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There are statutes that criminalize interfering with government functions, but a federal law cannot criminalize what happens I states (at least not easily)The federal government has limited jurisdiction under the Constitution.
(DIR) Post #ASe71mIHikfonVcUC0 by bruce_korb@mstdn.social
2023-02-13T19:08:43Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The bulk of the reading will be between the lines. Or, rather, between the paragraphs.> I take "partial" to mean that the stuff we really want to know won't be there.Exactly: Abstract, summary and speculation about some witnesses committing perjury.*BUT* I think we'll get the essence of the jury's opinion.> you can see what "imminent" means in Lawyer Talk.Sometimes it really does mean "never."
(DIR) Post #ASe7J1HtECXSDqelUW by bruce_korb@mstdn.social
2023-02-13T19:11:50Z
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@Teri_Kanefield @cadenza Indeed. The one suit I filed (pro se) I had all the evidence needed up front. Eventually, they chose to stop using bluster and talk to a lawyer. They settled. *THAT* was easy.
(DIR) Post #ASe8ThpM1Mh30Uy7F2 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-13T19:25:00Z
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DA Fani Willis says she's satisfied with McBurney's order and doesn't plan to appeal:“I believe Judge McBurney’s order is legally sound and consistent with my request. I have no plans to appeal today’s order.”This means that there is no danger that the report will infringe the due process rights of potential defendants.(If their due process rights are violated, they may have grounds get indictments dismissed.) Looks like I have to renew my subscription to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution
(DIR) Post #ASe9Zkky8v2dmeMgeO by hydropsyche@ecoevo.social
2023-02-13T19:37:16Z
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@Teri_Kanefield The owner of the AJC is funding Cop City. Consider supporting WABE instead. https://www.wabe.org/
(DIR) Post #ASeDqVRiig9N2Sbb7Y by pleitter@universeodon.com
2023-02-13T20:25:08Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Re "imminent", I'm curious: Is it also possible Willis wanted to hear the judge's ruling before proceeding with indictments?
(DIR) Post #ASeIZwpAAtrenYUhyy by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-13T21:18:10Z
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@pleitter no there would be no reason for that. She wanted the judge to wait until she was ready to indict.
(DIR) Post #ASfo1IX4racbgIW4aO by MoiraEve@mastodon.world
2023-02-14T14:45:10Z
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@Teri_Kanefield thanks for your response, Teri!
(DIR) Post #ASg1Tfcju1o0oI1XyS by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-14T17:15:59Z
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@MoiraEve Did I know you over on Twitter? What's nice about Mastodon is that my feed is still small enough that I can usually answer any questions.There may be federal laws that apply in a state like Georgia, but what makes prosecution more likely in GA is that they do have state laws governing interfering in elections.
(DIR) Post #ASg1db17svjdQ1ACrw by MoiraEve@mastodon.world
2023-02-14T17:17:47Z
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@Teri_Kanefield Yes indeed I followed you on Twitter for several years. I do appreciate the follow-up on my federal legislation question and others you have answered here.
(DIR) Post #ASg1e46niuVPe12eEy by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-14T17:17:50Z
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@MoiraEve I just thought of something: The Constitution allows Congress to regulate federal elections in the states, but not state elections, so yes, actually it might be possible. For states to get around it, they'd have to hold separate elections, federal and state.
(DIR) Post #ASg1qO4PKiXx1pnWa0 by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
2023-02-14T17:20:06Z
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@MoiraEve and as a practical matter, you wouldn’t get anything like that through Congress now.