Post ASZs7T83c3Mr9RFffM by RTV@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #ASY2HWWgJdwbgFOLpY by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:47:07Z
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Personally I find 'blocking an instance because they won't block /any/ other instance' big bullshit :nkoFacepalm: First of all, you don't get to dictate the rules on any others instance to begin with and secondly why should you be bothered by this?If you block that /any/ instance it's done and you won't see stuff for it anymore but stop shaming others for not making the same decision, that's very childish "I block you because you won't block them" <-- ignore that bullshit please
(DIR) Post #ASY2KeeWYfUNkkYLzM by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:47:45Z
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And don't be proud of being a sheep btw, it's not plus but a big minues Think for youself, don't be a sheep
(DIR) Post #ASY2OXgIQ56XI2Efi4 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:48:29Z
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The tag #FediBlock is a SUGGESTION not a RULE!Check it out for yourself and decide but stop forcing other people to follow your crap
(DIR) Post #ASY2RDIydN5MxmbOPQ by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:48:59Z
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----------------rant done :blobcatgiggle: ---------------
(DIR) Post #ASY2dv2vpaT06D9hnk by kura@z0ne.social
2023-02-10T20:51:24.133Z
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@stux@mstdn.social i deny and replace it with my own: i got zero blocks, though im blocked for eg being edgelord. lol
(DIR) Post #ASY2ijUCEtLHh4Cgfg by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:52:10Z
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@kura People should decide for themselfs and if they're not happy with it they can migrate or even better, setup their own instance!
(DIR) Post #ASY2isEDjeuWo7nYWG by sugarcheri@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:52:12Z
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@stux Thank you for stating this and giving us a sensible platform. I left Twitter back in 2017 because I repeatedly experienced the cult of "block them or you can't be my friend," so naturally I have zero tolerance for cult-like and childish behavior. Although I'm reluctant to speak for others, I'm probably echoing shared sentiment when I say... we don't want Masto to be another Twitter. Thanks Stux.
(DIR) Post #ASY2jE7aL0fuhurZEO by alexpostfacto@tech.lgbt
2023-02-10T20:52:16Z
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@stux *virtual hugs the ranter* 🐱 Feel better? :)
(DIR) Post #ASY2nsM4gxOEeFrCng by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:53:03Z
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@alexpostfacto a lot! 🤗 thank you!
(DIR) Post #ASY2oeWLc4802125Tc by getimiskon@kafeneio.social
2023-02-10T20:53:16Z
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@stux I have seen various things over the last couple of years I use the fediverse, both Mastodon and other services.The thing that bothers me A LOT, is when some instances are being blocked because of the software they use. I have seen that quite a few times, especially with Pleroma (or any of its forks), for various reasons. From the bad actors who use it to controversial things some of its developers have said.
(DIR) Post #ASY2sRRWB6tid5a34i by danny@strangeminds.social
2023-02-10T20:53:56Z
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@stux I saw a post from someone recently asking where he can find blocklists for his newly created instance.He was prepared to accept blocklists from others without knowing why the instances had been blocked.My own view is create blocklists based on your own experience
(DIR) Post #ASY2sqla1enfAY9vJg by wonkothesane@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:54:02Z
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@stux I appreciate your approach to moderation and I’m happy I accidentally landed here. Glad to be a patreon too!
(DIR) Post #ASY2uaioeMlDzFhF0C by shadowferret@the9thcircle.club
2023-02-10T20:54:24.423Z
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@stux@mstdn.social I'd also like to add that it can hurt your users because it cuts off their own ability to moderate and follow who they feel comfortable with. There are other options outside of blocking.
(DIR) Post #ASY2wP0PBLNYEEmry4 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:54:39Z
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@danny Nahh, a suggestion list is good! There are some instances that defenitly needs blocking but those are kinda 'in'famous
(DIR) Post #ASY2zSGZVzbxD6nwuG by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:55:09Z
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@shadowferret Ah yes! A gooood addition!
(DIR) Post #ASY34LDX9ODanQiIjo by ZySoua@mastodon.ml
2023-02-10T20:56:07Z
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@stux you are my hero, Stux. Thank you for inspirational words.
(DIR) Post #ASY38k7GWEPrB2seMy by danny@strangeminds.social
2023-02-10T20:56:52Z
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@stux but if you're new to the arena how do you know which ones to trust / block?
(DIR) Post #ASY3G6RZu5byS5tJL6 by electrafish@social.electrafish.tech
2023-02-10T20:58:10Z
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@stux I'm blocking you because you don't block instances that block instances that don't block other instances!https://media.tenor.com/A8a97fuuP-IAAAAC/no-soup-for-you.gif
(DIR) Post #ASY3LGqodbwCB29z6W by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:59:07Z
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@electrafish Oh my god :blobcatgiggle: is that... is that 'blockception'? :ed_grin:
(DIR) Post #ASY3LbwuCAHpc0Ae0m by mcrocker@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T20:59:13Z
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@stux Thank you for having sane policies. That’s why I like it here.
(DIR) Post #ASY3R8q1LHaH3yaUOu by ink8@the9thcircle.club
2023-02-10T20:56:31.847Z
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@stux@mstdn.social i always forget but i sometimes have to remind myself DO THESE PEOPLE NOT HAVE A BRAINTHEY ARE SHARING BRAINCELS THEY HAVE THE EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE OF THIS VIDEO'S ORIGINAL DEMOGRAPHIC
(DIR) Post #ASY3R9YgfDJTIVUA1Q by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:00:09Z
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@ink8 "It's a pile of balllzzz" :bloblaugh:
(DIR) Post #ASY3fDGPgUp4qLdsbQ by shadowferret@the9thcircle.club
2023-02-10T21:02:49.989Z
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@danny@strangeminds.social @stux@mstdn.social I'd say that you could look at the list and then go verify whether or they should be blocked yourself. That the suggestion still holds, but you've vetted it yourself. I'm certainly not a fan of blocklists but if people were willing to vet and verify them before they added them I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it.
(DIR) Post #ASY46jryZ4XpmsKy0G by sugarcheri@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:02:23Z
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@tw @stux With respect... imo there's a stark difference between calling out a Nazi account -- which I agree, should be done -- and outright telling people who to block. If you call out the account/instance, others can see for themselves why they may choose to block that person/instance. I block relentlessly, mostly for personal reasons, and I never make a "thing" about it. It's just a personal mantra -- I do my best to refrain from dragging others into my bad experience.
(DIR) Post #ASY46ksMp6S4uNWnFg by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:07:38Z
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@sugarcheri @tw There are really some /bad shit/ instances out there, trust me :blobcatgiggle: these days i know the url from my head but as a first time admin i think they should check just the timeline before blocking, for example it could just be one or two users instead of an admin doing the 'dirty work' :ablobwink:
(DIR) Post #ASY49VFzLoMFKrt3fk by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-02-10T21:08:16Z
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@stux Stux W? :cerealspit:
(DIR) Post #ASY4BIZJUqloYwmYhk by Jeffrey_Smith@mastodon.social
2023-02-10T21:08:34Z
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@stux Be a cat: herding is impossible!
(DIR) Post #ASY4GBTnHTOO1ZWvfU by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:09:21Z
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@tw @sugarcheri Basically we handle a 'simple policy' on that part; if content is dangerous/harmful or illegal we block and remove it but when 'we don't like' an instance admin or isntance for example it's up the the users themselfs As long as it's not harmful, thats the most important. People should be safe on there and also make decision in a safe area
(DIR) Post #ASY4QPK8fANfrDtAdk by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:11:12Z
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@tw @sugarcheri no need to apologize :cat_hug_triangle:
(DIR) Post #ASY4TcvwWDrYw66fh2 by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:11:53Z
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@stux that's a good point. In some cases I could understand, but yes, I feel like it should be up to the admins.
(DIR) Post #ASY4X4x4ntvOhaHbAe by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:12:29Z
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@calculsoberic But more in the way like: "check before block" :blobcatgiggle: (I hope you also do before blocking on here 😇)
(DIR) Post #ASY4ZLktIexPOcfMFk by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:12:55Z
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@stux yes, I look at the site before blocking it.
(DIR) Post #ASY4b9f5EcrOT2oIka by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:13:12Z
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@calculsoberic I knew it! :clapping: you are a good mod my friend :cat_hug_triangle:
(DIR) Post #ASY4cKlJRuDbBVHo5w by calculsoberic@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:13:28Z
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@stux thank you!
(DIR) Post #ASY4omhRP5pXJ3PcEy by carodjah@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:15:41Z
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@stux wow literally just moved here and I find out the admin hates fluffy cloud animals.Who is the manager and how can I report you to them pls thx 🙏
(DIR) Post #ASY4vedbm9t0KWtZPU by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:16:50Z
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@kaliranya This would be a rare case indeed but yes! I have consider this but deemed not 'woth it' 😉 It just happens not that often for blocking 'second hands' :blobcatgiggle:
(DIR) Post #ASY5NAzvZPPmVmSU3E by mason@social.lgtspd.net
2023-02-10T21:21:53Z
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@stux this sounds fundamentally the same as cancel culture: “we all have to stop supporting <person> because <reason> and if you don’t you’re a bad person”
(DIR) Post #ASY5R0zSigSSdG4TMu by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-02-10T21:22:36Z
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@stux Thank you, Stux. People need to hear this.
(DIR) Post #ASY5dY4dXfHEiJT4oC by Sh4d0w_H34rt@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:24:54Z
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@stux agree. Instance level blocks should be used only in extreme cases such as for legal reasons or for safety of the greater fediverse community. I hated the thought of blocking an instance as an individual user but doing so as admin one would think would be a more difficult decision.
(DIR) Post #ASY5j5Nd8ZH5SXzaXA by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-02-10T21:25:49Z
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@ZySoua @stux Yes, same.Although was not subscribed till now, but still - big fan of your work.
(DIR) Post #ASY7a4ZUyRhAFnNEHo by sugarcheri@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T21:46:40Z
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@stux @tw I'm sorry you're going thru this. Have mods/admins considered creating an instance for just mods/admins to join, so that first time admins can ask questions, learn, etc. A community where they can learn the ropes of being an admin? Maybe this a stupid idea. Tbh, I know nothing about running a server. I just tend to search out the most reasonable, diplomatic and proactive solution 🤷♀️
(DIR) Post #ASY85OL7Wi62XZaAUa by MxAlba@todon.nl
2023-02-10T21:52:18Z
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@stux if "them" are Nazis, that's a good block reason.
(DIR) Post #ASY8grkz7K4UUUY7ou by twofirstnames@tech.lgbt
2023-02-10T21:59:06Z
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@stux Let users manage blocks/domain blocks, and keep the instance level block for instances which are like...actually harmful, thx.
(DIR) Post #ASY9PGhtqUPCk6AcIy by piratero@mastodon.world
2023-02-10T22:07:07Z
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@stux or just block everybody! Every one of them!!!
(DIR) Post #ASYApHbBFkU6zVznxA by RufusJCooter@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T22:23:02Z
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@stux Yes! And!I think that it's natural & proper for different communities to have different codes of conduct & standards for what's block-worthy.I think that, say, an instance set up as a space for journalists to network & share their work would naturally have a different set of standards than, e.g., an instance up as a support network for folks in addiction recovery/Alcoholics Anonymous-type groups.I don't think it'd make sense to force the norms of one on the other!
(DIR) Post #ASYBKjbdAlV6pbChNo by bestiaexmachina@metalhead.club
2023-02-10T22:28:38Z
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@stux Amen to this! 🙏
(DIR) Post #ASYC8oawtitMmdlUu0 by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
2023-02-10T22:37:48Z
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@stux 100% this. I don't even follow it. I block accounts or instances once they have broken a rule, not before based on some random half way across the world.
(DIR) Post #ASYFCy51sElrDpVU0m by Doug_Bostrom@scicomm.xyz
2023-02-10T23:12:05Z
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@stux I don't have the chops to explore it formally, but one wonders if the logic of blocking instances might lead to an all-island situation, no network, axiomatically.If people become sufficiently discerning, to employ an anodyne term. Granting there are borders beyond which we'd find broad agreement that a block is indicated.
(DIR) Post #ASYFPCJ4o0OiotuP8y by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-02-10T23:14:23.480037Z
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51 users, no server blocks, and no abuse reports, no mod overhead.My secret: I talk just enough shit to get my server blocked by the really unstable instances and it keeps the drama away 😎
(DIR) Post #ASYFXKv6fIHnqnZtOS by drq@mastodon.ml
2023-02-10T23:15:44Z
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@stux I honestly am disillusioned with this whole FediBlock thing.Its intended purpose is protecting the network from known abusers, which is the sentiment I can get behind. But at best it works as a short-term solution, and being overused and the hashtag being thrown around for every tiny slight turns into either a network-breaking menace or a useless farce. Arguing for it further only solidifies the madness and groupthink and perpetuates the farce.Once you've seen enough, you realize that this can't be viewed as a comprehensive solution, no matter how you cut it.
(DIR) Post #ASYGIrP5i2jUCuGR8a by autumnrainn@mstdn.social
2023-02-10T23:24:24Z
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@stux Bravo, well said. 👍 😀 👌
(DIR) Post #ASYH0EcBHpxaeC4MMq by Robworks@phpc.social
2023-02-10T23:31:58Z
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@stux Yeah, I think it’s definitely a symptom of Purity Spirals. It can definitely happen and people need to look critically at their own ‘tribe’ for evidence of Purity Spiral formation
(DIR) Post #ASYIJCtnzQr0mYvJmy by franktaber@mas.to
2023-02-10T23:46:53Z
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@stux This is exactly right. It's what I might call the three stages of moderation. Stage 1: "consensus is the only way, everyone must agree with me". Stage 2: "consensus never works, we need detailed and rigid rules and guidelines". Stage 3: "rigid rules fail due to shades of grey, and consensus lets the most dramatic decide everything, we need to be wise and thoughtful with general guidelines".Wrote about this a bit earlier: https://mas.to/@franktaber/109838479636894042
(DIR) Post #ASYIozZl3qx4j9hdgW by LucasVL@fedi.lucasvl.nl
2023-02-10T23:52:41.154532Z
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@stux part of the reason why i left plus.st, and also the reason plus.st now blocks me
(DIR) Post #ASYLiSmEOROj827DRQ by risottobias@tech.lgbt
2023-02-11T00:25:02Z
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@stux if they spend a large amount of time apologizing for the Nazi/terf instance and saying I should unblock it, they get uncomfortably close to seeming like okay with Nazis. Or they just take up so much time they need to be muted.However, discussing blocks is fine, as is having two servers make their own choices for their users.For example events in two cities might share ban lists, and based on the report from the other event, agree to ban a mischief maker from both.
(DIR) Post #ASYLmC64LpWSYSAovw by nus@mstdn.social
2023-02-11T00:25:42Z
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@drq @stux there's a lot of instances that are worth blocking, that have been around for a long time. I wouldn't want them to be able to interact with me by default. And I think a lot of people would agree with that as a baseline.And I don't want to be on, and would not encourage people to be on, an instance that allowed anyone to interact with you.But blocking an instance solely because you wouldn't want to be there, that doesn't make sense to me. tl;dr Stux mods good and I support
(DIR) Post #ASYM2aynbazUMPasIS by brigantine72@dice.camp
2023-02-11T00:28:40Z
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@stux Agree 100% with you! Some instances seem to get off on blocking other instances for seriously questionable reasons.
(DIR) Post #ASYMEn3uVcHVJBndDs by mookie@happyorange.xyz
2023-02-11T00:30:51Z
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@stux You do you, I'll do me.
(DIR) Post #ASYMrp9we31v6hEcbo by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-11T00:37:56Z
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@stux It would be the end of the fediverse if "blocking because you don't block" is applied universally. I will not do it.I prefer silencing, it means crap doesn't''t leak into timelines if you're not looking for it. But blocking is making an absolute decision for all the people on my server, and I think it it up to them who they follow, they are grown-ups and can make their own decisions.
(DIR) Post #ASYNp1MaujnY2hNXqi by darnell@one.darnell.one
2023-02-11T00:48:36Z
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@stux I feel the same way. I only block #Fediverse instances if:👉🏾 They are engaging in explicit illegal content (which will be followed up with a report to the proper authorities)👉🏾 If users from that instance engage in harassment against me en mass (I do not have time to block hundreds of accounts all day)👉🏾 If the instance is attempting to sabotage other instances (example: DDoS attacks).Aside from that I will just block accounts if they are problematic.
(DIR) Post #ASYO5zFu0LWcQaL3TM by tn5421@fedi.absturztau.be
2023-02-11T00:51:44.910742Z
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@shadowferret @stux @danny how dooz i vetted "usual chuds #antifediblock"
(DIR) Post #ASYO90i33U9Ro1wfo0 by lowqualityfacts@mstdn.social
2023-02-11T00:52:16Z
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@stux You are my favorite digital landlord.
(DIR) Post #ASYTIVhbh2xYJ15WnQ by kennyc@mastodon.social
2023-02-11T01:49:58Z
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@stux Agree!
(DIR) Post #ASYUOWpYVlz9UqEv9U by tn5421@fedi.absturztau.be
2023-02-11T02:02:17.872906Z
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@Seirdy @stux
(DIR) Post #ASYXcMF6yOkqZkTlVg by blake@fosstodon.org
2023-02-11T02:38:24Z
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@stux While that in and of itself is a bad policy, chances are those instances also have poor hate speech moderation on themselves.
(DIR) Post #ASYXra5VmNz3rLFQbg by msquebanh@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-02-11T02:41:08Z
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@stux @sugarcheri @tw Exactly & it's why I appreciate a solid & diverse team of admins/mods on different servers.
(DIR) Post #ASYYDSuR9MQlxxVFFA by Fripi@chaos.social
2023-02-11T02:45:06Z
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@stux I am not sure about the exact way how my server handles this, but I would expect that places that dont block outright nazi shit are not welcome any more. Thats not childish, that is reacting as it is supposed to be.
(DIR) Post #ASYcK8H2fb3noIVk2a by DavidMHarlan@mstdn.social
2023-02-11T03:31:07Z
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@stux and sometimes people don't block because they are maintaining a healthy side eye
(DIR) Post #ASYhvCiLcgWO4EmO36 by pastecat@shitpost.poridge.club
2023-02-10T21:53:46.481Z
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@MxAlba@todon.nl @stux@mstdn.social but none reason is good for trying to force others to block someone.
(DIR) Post #ASYhvDsfHoMtgWc8lk by MxAlba@todon.nl
2023-02-10T21:56:11Z
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@pastecat @stux agreed. If they don't want to block Nazis, just block them.
(DIR) Post #ASYhvF5SniCTQVbsMC by pastecat@shitpost.poridge.club
2023-02-10T21:59:34.802Z
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@MxAlba@todon.nl @stux@mstdn.social ammm... no? let them be? they still might be good people? But that's up to you, who you want to block and why, so... Just dont expect your logic to be a common rule.
(DIR) Post #ASYhvFylU6R6C1U2YS by MxAlba@todon.nl
2023-02-10T22:12:43Z
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@pastecat @stux there's a German saying: if there are 10 decent people and one Nazi at a table, and none of the decent people do anything about the Nazi being present, there are 11 Nazis at the table.
(DIR) Post #ASYieEWriqIIj8sdmK by iuculano@masto.ai
2023-02-11T04:41:56Z
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@stux Exactly! Who I block is my business. If you want to block me for whatever reason, you have the right. But no one is going to coerce/demand of me that I block anyone. You do you, and I'll do me.
(DIR) Post #ASYqgaNeFXyKi6CZ84 by swansinflight@mastodon.nz
2023-02-11T06:11:59Z
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@stux oh man I can not agree with this more!We manually check every block we do, and had another instance mod say they'd block us because our admin follows an account on an instance they dont like. We worked out it was the extremely wholesome skeletor bot, and told them politely to bugger off.Thank you for saying this.
(DIR) Post #ASYzMB7TMIjKA1ymv2 by alcea@pb.todon.de
2023-02-11T07:49:10Z
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@drq @stux Yep.Like "this person said something I disagree with, you better block em or we can nolonger be #friends "dafuq ?Blocking should be the *last* resort.Not the first :Alcea_Not_Amused_for_real:
(DIR) Post #ASYzSA6a2jSSkhPoXI by jaco@peoplemaking.games
2023-02-11T07:50:17Z
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@stux Dunno bruh. I would rather not federate with instances that federate with nazis etc but you do you.
(DIR) Post #ASYzfxJwN9Af9jF3Z2 by kaliranya@vtuber.house
2023-02-11T00:26:11Z
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@apophis Mm, "mute conversation" is the one feature I miss from Twitter... usually I can get by with account mutes, but it's a noticeable feature gap!
(DIR) Post #ASZ4huqz10gZr2S2ls by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-02-11T08:49:09Z
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@stuxSelf-hosted single-user instance with federation disabled should be a perfect setup for this kind of people 😂@kura
(DIR) Post #ASZNzZlq2QugoBBBDM by tfunken@open-social.xyz
2023-02-11T12:25:15Z
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@stux I think a well-known art instance thinks a bit differently about this 🤣
(DIR) Post #ASZO25Tp79CBjTwznE by stux@mstdn.social
2023-02-11T12:25:42Z
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@tfunken I am sure 😆
(DIR) Post #ASZOcbHMMcSGmRX0gi by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-02-11T12:32:22.695565Z
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@ink8 @stux whom was that video intended for? special needs children?
(DIR) Post #ASZPhGW9592Rn9Eg2S by kaliranya@vtuber.house
2023-02-10T21:15:34Z
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@stux There are situations where a missing block on another instance can actually be a problem: https://wirebird.com/artiblocks/defining-secondhand-smokeIt's not a super common scenario, though, I'd think. For my part I would be very very suspicious of a site that didn't block, say, truth.social--but it wouldn't be immediate grounds for defederation, just caution.
(DIR) Post #ASZPhHJ49GAcEs7kI4 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
2023-02-11T12:43:23Z
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@kaliranya @stux I think that's a problem that should be solved technically rather than politically. Only Mastodon-derived implementations do that in my experience; Rebased seems to hide replies to blocked posts. Correct me if I'm wrong.I'm talking about personal mutes though, not admin level blocks. I don't use any instances with, to my knowledge, any admin-level blocks.
(DIR) Post #ASZRnvLGPUo43JRsHI by Sar@masto.ai
2023-02-11T13:07:55Z
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@stux This!There's a certain, large instance out there that must feel like its users are all precious snowflakes that can't handle the real world, and so bans entire instances based off of the behaviour of a single user on an instance.They then dictate that other instances HAVE to do the same, like they're the authority on what's acceptable online.Er, no?How about let individual users use the instance blocks we all have access to, and stop nannying & dictating to others?
(DIR) Post #ASZdCah7PgCqkbdTc0 by discgolfer@uniflydiscs.com
2023-02-11T15:15:36Z
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@stux why do you care though how other people manage their instances? If there's an instance out there that is letting fascists spread their hate and violence, it's totally reasonable to block them for not blocking them. No safe space for fascists - period.
(DIR) Post #ASZs7T83c3Mr9RFffM by RTV@mstdn.social
2023-02-11T11:31:05Z
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@shadowferret @stux before joining an instance you should check out what they block and why. Some instances just have a list of what they block with no reason given.
(DIR) Post #ASZv5Pw0olNsWmKano by neonknightoa@mastodon.la
2023-02-11T18:36:03Z
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@stux We're suffering that in mastodon.la right now. It's a coordinated attack from a bunch of massive instances with the sole purpose of cancelling us. It's the same crap that happened with mastodon.lol.
(DIR) Post #ASZzDZRJlJdc8k7Kvw by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2023-02-11T19:22:16.985318Z
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@sugarcheri @tw @stux Main issue is when you block instances because someone else force you to do it.For ex. our instance been Fediblocked because we reject defederation et all. We got the tag "Federates with Nazi instances".We federate everyone, even Communist instances. Our policy dictates to our users-only which already reject nazi and communist propaganda.Some admins will prefer blocking instances they dislike, this is fine, we prefer civil discourse or let users block/mute mean people.Also, most Fediblock reasons are "trust me bro", lack transparency and don't even contact mods to report issues.
(DIR) Post #ASa5QuBmWjpByzam7U by aurochs@todon.eu
2023-02-11T20:31:58Z
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@stux I find it childish too, but let's let childs be childs!
(DIR) Post #ASa6fc6a91b6C7jmJU by sugarcheri@mstdn.social
2023-02-11T19:29:32Z
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@waltercool @tw @stux for me it all comes down to TRUST. If my admin blocks an entire instance, I’m 💯 ok with that. In fact I welcome it bcuz I trust my admin has my/our best interest and safety at heart. What I struggle with are users (not mods/admins) abusing Fediblock to post “block this one, that one, and that other one too.” So unless my admin blocks an instance, I don’t abide by the suggestions to block willy nilly without seeing for myself the reason to do so.
(DIR) Post #ASa9HJsOZDWUZUD19s by Kio@kitsunes.club
2023-02-11T21:13:44.394Z
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@RTV@mstdn.social @shadowferret@the9thcircle.club @stux@mstdn.social Personally, that's why I maintain a blocklist of my own. I do give a general explanation of why that instance has been blocked (most instances that I block fall under a specific category). It's not for people to use; it's for people to understand who they might not be able to communicate with here.I try to be lenient, but man do some people annoy me...
(DIR) Post #ASa9PtF6xYCkZhv9mq by shadowferret@the9thcircle.club
2023-02-11T21:16:40.224Z
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@Kio@kitsunes.club @RTV@mstdn.social @stux@mstdn.social I don't think you do blocking to instances that federate with those instances either, which is good.
(DIR) Post #ASa9YaTy4zLwzs18HA by Kio@kitsunes.club
2023-02-11T21:17:40.741Z
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@shadowferret@the9thcircle.club @RTV@mstdn.social @stux@mstdn.social I don't block by association. And especially with giant, hard-to-moderate servers, I tend not to punish the admins as much as the users themselves.
(DIR) Post #ASaHIpyzTsx64QWpw8 by scrambled1839@mstdn.party
2023-02-11T22:45:01Z
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@stux I will be ignoring this big bullshit only reason an instance gets blocked is if they refuse to moderate their instance and as a result its causing issues on my instance.
(DIR) Post #ASdbUm4qPP3rzR7F4q by aurochs@todon.eu
2023-02-13T13:15:24Z
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@stux @tw @sugarcheri There's been a lot of turmoil in some mainly spanish speaking instances this days. I am a bit torn because I follow people from all the instances involved (on both sides), including the admin of the "badly behaving" instance (whom I generally like).The thing is that the person who made the transphobic statemens (and whom I really dislike, I'd rather be upfront about that) is a moderator of that instance. Up to here, I agree with you, block the individual, that't it.The thing is that this person apparently has already received multiple reports by several people, but of course the reports go to him (This actually also happened to me, I reported him for harassing me and then he called me out in public saying "how dare you report me" or something of the sort, then I blocked him and forgot about it) and apparently he has made some of those reports public and made fun of them. Now, I have not seen prove of that yet but if that is true, we are talking about an issue of privacy violation and potentially safety, and that deserves deeper consideration. I haven't seen proof of that (although from my past interactions with him, I find those claims believable, but then again, I really dislike him).
(DIR) Post #ASdsZhw2vyTvoRwGQK by Korgdisso@dobbs.town
2023-02-13T16:26:39Z
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@stux I’ll block whomever I like whenever I like, that’s the Mastodon Difference™️!
(DIR) Post #ASeq1nCcq1QhYMLzea by juliewebgirl@mstdn.social
2023-02-14T03:32:56Z
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@stux 👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you!
(DIR) Post #AUC472fwaUn13KrDJw by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-04-01T02:08:20Z
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@stux +9001%I chose to register at your instance because your list of blocked instances is very, very small and only consists of the usual irredeemable actors.That being said dictating others what instances to block is quite facist akin to a nation demanding from another to sanction another nation or being sanctioned in retaliation of not doing so.
(DIR) Post #AUC4FL9TmDpCfmd3ia by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-04-01T02:09:51Z
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@stux @shadowferret also every user can - idependently from the instance admin, also block single users and instances from interacting with their profile.Which IMHO is already better than anything Twitter ever will have!