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 (DIR) Post #ASY4gdjQrWMRAzSZjU by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-02-10T21:13:58Z
       
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       The truth of the matter is that there's stuff floating around up there all the time. Most of it is safely ignored, but now the politics of the situation are such that "shoot first and ask questions later" is seen as the best political approach to avoid criticism.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASY4ztDTW0Fghdgugq by sparseMatrix@ioc.exchange
       2023-02-10T21:16:56Z
       
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       @lauren I think it was probably never safely ignored, and should have been called out a long time ago.Just like with money, so much energy is spent by politicians on becoming and remaining successful politicians that precious little of anything at all actually goes towards fulfilling any duty.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASY57BgrECKG1eulF2 by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-02-10T21:18:42Z
       
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       @sparseMatrix The thing is, *we* have stuff that regularly invades the airspace of other countries. Part of the unwritten agreement is not to shoot down each other's stuff in the course of normal events.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASY6qHUMcFhgzk8XdA by TylerJWhit@mstdn.social
       2023-02-10T21:38:04Z
       
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       @lauren @sparseMatrix If a country invades another countries airspace, without the consent of the invaded country, inasmuch as civilians are not in danger, the invaded country has the international right to destroy the object participating in that invasion.I've seen no evidence that the military is heavy handed in their response to threats of US Airspace. Do you have any evidence that the US has neglected due diligence or that they are routinely destroying aircraft they shouldn't?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASY7GPlkS6BYCmjIdk by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
       2023-02-10T21:42:48Z
       
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       @TylerJWhit @sparseMatrix How do you know that the object shot down today was "one country *invading* another country's airspace?" In fact, the sky is full of meteorological and other instrumentation -- yes and spy systems -- we use them too -- and the only reason this one was shot down so fast given what was known about it was that they were scared to delay because of the political ramifications. Seriously, this is all a show. Nothing new is going on, just the visibility for political reasons.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASY7iBshgEvnF1EAYS by TylerJWhit@mstdn.social
       2023-02-10T21:47:35Z
       
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       @lauren @sparseMatrix It doesn't need to be from another country. The object in Alaska is US controlled airspace and the military protects that airspace. The Balloon that did infact have surveillance devices (you were contesting the narrative that it was used as a spying device a few days ago) was from another nation, and the US had every right to shoot it down.You are making a lot of assumptions without substantiating those assumptions.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASY8whiMLzTa6flTe4 by sparseMatrix@ioc.exchange
       2023-02-10T22:01:32Z
       
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       @lauren Oh, I wouldn't be surprised at all; I think though, that as long as there are so many unwritten agreements, there are also a lot of opportunities to push the envelope and to exploit ignorance.