Post ASVQ5P4W1I6QVo5hqa by ProgGrrl@bbq.snoot.com
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(DIR) Post #ASVO5nK7eWlvoqRx8y by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:07:27Z
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If I wanted to get an Android phone for testing websites, but I wanted to pay next to nothing for it, what would be a good make and model? I'm thinking second hand here.Probably should be able to run the most recent version of Android (I suppose? Is that important?).#Android #advice #webdev
(DIR) Post #ASVODsbpstcuWrafoG by af@dataare.cool
2023-02-09T14:08:51Z
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@john it would be good to test on a low spec but common android phone. Samsung Galaxy A series would be a good bet.
(DIR) Post #ASVOX2274SwNG60v44 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:12:24Z
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@af Thanks, it's a little bit more than I was thinking on eBay, but I might get lucky.
(DIR) Post #ASVPCwAnFTZPFM3XHs by bon_balaur@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:19:59Z
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@john Motorolas x) I have g22, I searched new but low budget one. Whole G series, I think, is low budget. I am mostly pleased. Also ppl often get Huawei, but I have no idea which series there is low budget.
(DIR) Post #ASVPIt0FwnOX9Wxpaq by John@socks.masto.host
2023-02-09T14:20:57Z
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@john@sauropods.win I have never had one, but I've threatened to buy the Moto G .. as all you really need?I probably should, rather than overpay for Pixels.
(DIR) Post #ASVPn5XHuo7ui4odyi by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:26:30Z
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@John@socks.masto.host I'm not after anything good here. What I really want is an average Android experience for as cheap as I can. It's not like I'll be using it as a phone.
(DIR) Post #ASVQ5P4W1I6QVo5hqa by ProgGrrl@bbq.snoot.com
2023-02-09T14:29:46Z
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@john Word of advice here, based on chatter on Infosec mastodon recently, stay away from the cheap Chinese models. They are apparently preloaded with malware.
(DIR) Post #ASVQK39XnPdusLQXkO by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:32:29Z
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@ProgGrrl Yeah, I'm after a standard sort of experience, so I'm probably going to try to get a Samsung. Just wondering how old I can go and still be relevant. Like, I don't think it's worth my time making things work on an iPhone 4, but an iPhone 7 would probably still be a relevant test device.
(DIR) Post #ASVR0OqtVd32KwtjG4 by John@socks.masto.host
2023-02-09T14:40:06Z
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@john@sauropods.win I just went to look, and $170 for a 2023 Moto G Play seems like a pretty good deal. Or $110 for a 2021 Pure.New phones, presumably a few years from end of life.(From the Moto store)
(DIR) Post #ASVR9w6xDq3Y5txOqG by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:41:50Z
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@John@socks.masto.host Too much for me. This is a passing fancy! I was hoping to get something for like £50.I'm seeing damaged Samsung A10s for about that much. But I don't think I can be dealing with a cracked screen because I'm too fussy like that.
(DIR) Post #ASVRgQn6gsSSVrAV9s by John@socks.masto.host
2023-02-09T14:47:42Z
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@john@sauropods.win Remember that your time is worth a lot! Don't undervalue yourself by putting hours on an out of date phone.But if you can find a current one for a good price, sure.
(DIR) Post #ASVRpLZlRxMswcB9dY by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T14:49:19Z
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@John@socks.masto.host I have an iPhone, so I'm not going to be using it as a Phone! Just a test device.
(DIR) Post #ASVSC42qnNF9EYcGS8 by af@dataare.cool
2023-02-09T14:53:24Z
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@john I have a 22 from work. I just know it’s a budget series with slower processors and less ram.
(DIR) Post #ASVSJodHyvb9kZM8tE by John@socks.masto.host
2023-02-09T14:54:49Z
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@john@sauropods.win That's what I'm saying. If you want your testing time to be valuable it has to be against current software, otherwise it's like "try it on an older phone?"
(DIR) Post #ASVSyL4mmEBBxHXZVA by mojojoflow@tech.lgbt
2023-02-09T15:02:06Z
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@john Just curious, is running a VM phone from Android studio not a viable option?
(DIR) Post #ASVT8M2o24aDqyOG8G by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:03:57Z
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@mojojoflow I like to test touch events. The feel can be quite different than you might expect. I have used an iPhone and an iPhone simulator, and I know there are differences.
(DIR) Post #ASVTKM4Hllq3P0nwjQ by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:06:07Z
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@polibius What's the cheapest model that can run the latest Android do you think?
(DIR) Post #ASVUxAo7fc91j4JntY by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:24:16Z
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@john You know that modern browser devkits have phone emulation built right in, yes?
(DIR) Post #ASVV299NG89U2Ad7mS by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:25:07Z
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@mike Yes, and I know that they don't give you a great feel for what things are actually like.
(DIR) Post #ASVV6Jjnpwag1rerNg by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:25:59Z
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@john Fair enough.
(DIR) Post #ASVVVmczYqMArzcDU8 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:30:30Z
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@mike To elaborate a bit, they are bad for behaviour, you need to actually test touch input for real if you're doing anything that uses it. They also don't tell you whether you've done something that's going to make scrolling really janky, for example. My experience with the iPhone emulator is that it doesn't even get the rendering right!
(DIR) Post #ASVVan3dOHrfeOSs3E by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:31:25Z
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@john That all makes sense.
(DIR) Post #ASVWD6wLurokJrKbZY by Akki@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T15:38:26Z
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@john I'd offer my old moto G6 but i kinda stopped using it because it couldn't hold many apps on internal memory and it also couldn't run the newest android OS.
(DIR) Post #ASVYqbfVnoZgp8PnBw by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T16:07:59Z
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@polibius Thanks, I'll keep a lookout.
(DIR) Post #ASVZjIQB46BJ3YJvZw by PeterFalkingham@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T16:17:49Z
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@john any samsung a series will get you a solid, cheap, android phone that also represents what most android users have.
(DIR) Post #ASVaEW8O88HyZ0t3dQ by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T16:23:29Z
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@PeterFalkingham I just got an A20e for £55.I tried looking for a few other brands and suggested by other people, but I couldn't get a recent enough one cheap enough.
(DIR) Post #ASVg8C5SLtFWNLsqjA by nlarson830@techhub.social
2023-02-09T17:29:31Z
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@john @ProgGrrl I've got a Samsung A10e that's a couple years old and it's a meh phone. It was cheap.I've got an older S9 that's pretty nice. It was not cheap.
(DIR) Post #ASW18Lm6QmUxSXkNFY by ramon_wilhelm@mastodon.gamedev.place
2023-02-09T21:24:54Z
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@john Samsung A Series is a good choice. Choose an Android device which supports at least Jelly Bean. Anything below Jelly Beans is obsolete.https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-will-kill-off-very-old-versions-of-android-next-month/amp/
(DIR) Post #ASWDDSnkvrcw9Mj0Vc by andwhyisit@ohai.social
2023-02-09T23:40:18Z
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@john @af I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 right now and it works perfectly, so anything A8 or higher should be fine.
(DIR) Post #ASWE5tafY1Was7YiB6 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-09T23:50:08Z
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@andwhyisit @af Thanks, I got an A20e – I don't know how that compares, but was made fairly recently so I assume it's fine?
(DIR) Post #ASWFdZiw1ApL3Z34d6 by oniraptor@sauropods.win
2023-02-10T00:07:27Z
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@john Samsung A01 is cheap still available and runs Android 11 on it.
(DIR) Post #ASWJQoaNqj8fCcDghs by andwhyisit@ohai.social
2023-02-10T00:49:56Z
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@john @af Should be fine. Don't forget to run a software update to Android version 13.
(DIR) Post #ASXOLi4vJIj6V7qjQG by jcrabapple@dmv.community
2023-02-10T13:19:44Z
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@john @ProgGrrl one of the 'a' models. Pixel 4a, etc.