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 (DIR) Post #ASSaH98fV5NqdgOMXg by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
       2023-02-08T05:43:37Z
       
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       "Study: Over 50% of academics admit to pirating research papersA majority of the survey respondents say they used websites like Sci-Hub to avoid paywalls by accessing illegal copies of research. "wow.   sound like a healthy ecosystem?  https://www.fastcompany.com/90845744/study-over-50-of-academics-admit-to-pirating-research-papershttps://www.infodocket.com/2023/02/07/fast-company-study-over-50-of-academics-admit-to-pirating-research-papers/
       
 (DIR) Post #ASScS6F0oWz0kIi4Yq by ClipHead@social.cologne
       2023-02-08T05:57:10Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Hey there! Could you please add an image description in the future to make your posts accessible?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASScxzNtqHn6kN4aOG by JDN5IX@hackers.town
       2023-02-08T06:01:17Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Wouldn’t be a problem if publicly funded research wasn’t kept behind paywalls.Yo-ho, yo-ho…..🏴‍☠️
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSdew2MADrmoiTU1o by radio@infosec.exchange
       2023-02-08T06:15:12Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle what we have for academia needs to be cancelled. one of the worst landlords I know is a professor, and sits on a dissertation committee. Having a PhD is an indictment today, not an honor.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSfbK7Ot6saFoEu9Y by bmittermaier@openbiblio.social
       2023-02-08T06:38:42Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle the complaint by the anonymous person (no access to their own paper) is a nuisance. Why did she hand over copyright to the publisher w/o  uploading her paper to a repository?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASShpkJsT88NTi5356 by corneil@hachyderm.io
       2023-02-08T07:03:35Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle The papers were always available in the library. That is how it should be freely available. Especially is public funds contributed to the research.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSjAWjWHHzRNNXzY8 by philip@aus.social
       2023-02-08T07:18:11Z
       
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       @brewsterkahleI'm surprised the figure is that low...
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSoeArQfAbzzxCeSe by villavelius@mastodon.online
       2023-02-08T08:18:14Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Not just avoiding paywalls, but also avoiding the encumbrance of getting access via all those different publisher interfaces, I reckon.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSppx53p5J4gml7js by ArneBab@rollenspiel.social
       2023-02-08T08:33:31Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle That’s today's copyright …
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSsrbkSPH8gyBbST2 by dumbledope@mastodonapp.uk
       2023-02-08T09:06:57Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle R.I.P. Aaron Swartzhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSumygnsulGa3oXmy by RichardShaw@mastodon.scot
       2023-02-08T09:28:12Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle There are two ways in which laws can be broken. The first is that unreasonable people break reasonable laws that are necessary for society for function. The second is that laws are inherently broken and people have to circumvent those laws for society to function.  Academic publishing is a good example where current laws poorly serve not only those who both produce and consume academic work. But also tax payers who actually fund academic research.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSvQ9O033zP38hKD2 by ruoff@norden.social
       2023-02-08T09:32:07Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Papers, written by Students and academics, often funded with public money, that have to be published are how often pirated due to the ridiculous licensing fees of certain academic journals? Even as an author of your own paper you are in some cases not free to use it (copy it for your students). Those #paywalls for academic papers are theft!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSwMVuiRtuZiJpXVY by Birk_lab@fediscience.org
       2023-02-08T09:45:17Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle academics profit from number of reads followed by number of citations. How often somebody paid to read it is pretty irrelevant. If it can't read it, I can't cite it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASSxwIapYJX8mO9llg by ruoff@norden.social
       2023-02-08T10:03:57Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle and that's the other side of the story: https://www.science.org/content/article/university-california-boycotts-publishing-giant-elsevier-over-journal-costs-and-open#AcademicResearch #AcademicJournals #OpenAccess #OpenScience
       
 (DIR) Post #ASTBZRUBinmz3f2qie by mikro2nd@indieweb.social
       2023-02-08T12:36:46Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle In related news, nearly 100% of film techs, cinematographers, directors admit to pirating movies and movie clips.(Anecdata; told to me by a cinematographer friend. :)
       
 (DIR) Post #ASTHn5i455nDIdQXtA by wa__em@framapiaf.org
       2023-02-08T13:45:48Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle long life to sci-hub
       
 (DIR) Post #ASTLQ7XrUTfK9FxP0a by lathamgreen@ravenation.club
       2023-02-08T14:27:11Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle arrrr matey! Information wants to be free!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASTX56gwfSA6rzx5w8 by paulralph@mastodon.acm.org
       2023-02-08T16:37:37Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle SCI-HUB is so important to humanity's continued survival that its ostensible illegality casts doubt upon the validity of law itself.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASTdNfsv9ss2xOn4zI by rchiechi@mastodon.social
       2023-02-08T17:47:55Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle FWIW Some fraction of that is because it is faster and easier than connecting to your university's VPN. And there has been a lot of working-from-home over the past few years.The issue of researchers being cut off from the literature because their university cannot afford subscriptions is very real though. The ability to pay huge sums of money for access to the scientific literature is table takes for a research university. It's a quirk of history that it is difficult to change.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASU4TWfF3Dd8rMPHwu by halfcocked@mstdn.social
       2023-02-08T22:44:24Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle yarrr
       
 (DIR) Post #ASU6qtUWXv6QE2fFHE by thomasafine@social.linux.pizza
       2023-02-08T22:53:52Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle I think this is an instance where "privateering" is a better term than "pirating".
       
 (DIR) Post #ASU7f0CXs9qXW19G76 by donw@mastodon.coffee
       2023-02-08T22:57:45Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle To call this "piracy" is to unconditionally accept the framing from the paper clearinghouses who provide exactly zero compensation to the paper authors. Calling it "illegal copies" is just as bad.The article should have asked those same academics whether they'd provide a free copy of their own paper to anyone who emailed them a request; I wager it would be an even larger number.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASU8SpLuTzlcLaHr4S by throAU@ioc.exchange
       2023-02-08T23:00:48Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle pretty sure I read somewhere recently that research papers are public domain and that you don’t need to go through a paywall. From a published scientist
       
 (DIR) Post #ASU940KWdBFZ6mMnQW by markuswerle@nrw.social
       2023-02-08T23:01:21Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle you think paywalls healthy?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASU9meHjRNiFlgLeMq by andresmh@hci.social
       2023-02-08T23:09:09Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle @mmasnick I’m surprised it’s not higher. I often find it less cumbersome to go to sci-hub than logging in to my library.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUAoAdsirJyMkzwci by ZaneSelvans@social.coop
       2023-02-08T23:34:56Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle At this point it seems unethical *not* to pirate journal articles.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUQpTTzl38sM518r2 by iquaanyin@mastodon.social
       2023-02-09T02:12:45Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle i think info should be open. period. and even tho i don’t cheat, this kind just doesn’t bother me overmuch. as long as they do their jobs, it’s over and done.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUTshATdITjWw7DF2 by nitin@thinktanki.social
       2023-02-09T01:34:30Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle The other 50% lie 😀
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUZXVPkjkAQikXWi0 by Crapknocker@home.social
       2023-02-09T01:03:44Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Fuck Elsevier. They're nothing but rent-seeking parasitic middle-men. They add nothing to scientific discourse.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUaDddYYVDINx5QrQ by Voline@kolektiva.social
       2023-02-09T01:21:10Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle @mmasnick Down with Elsevier! Viva science!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUarZoqAbR47xPPCi by iramjohn@mastodon.social
       2023-02-09T00:08:54Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle "Over 50% of academics admit to pirating research papers" - I assume most of the remainder don't want to *admit* piracy, while the others just haven't heard of Sci-Hub
       
 (DIR) Post #ASUbQyIT9alwBC92zQ by evcjackson@mastodon.au
       2023-02-09T04:40:31Z
       
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       @brewsterkahleI've had success by simply contacting one of the authors of a paper I'm interested in and asking for a copy.Academic publishing is the bad guy here, not the authors.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASWMOeYMTm0tN0w0zg by landley@mstdn.jp
       2023-02-10T01:22:02Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle The authors of research papers aren't paid royalties for publishing them? Almost all will send a copy if contacted by email? The most common one isn't Sci-Hub it's Google Scholar? Most for-profit journals are a predatory model leveraging tenure requirements, and this a whole political thing in academia you seem unaware of and fell for an astroturf article?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_accesshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serials_crisishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_publishinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/195jiy/lpt_if_you_need_access_to_a_scientific_paper/
       
 (DIR) Post #ASmJBns9SaPxIscekC by Etche_homo@mas.to
       2023-02-17T18:01:39Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Admit to? I'm proud of working around it, and always have been. Promote fair use in every way possible, including "pirated". Promote preprints, too. #ICanHazPDF  #OpenScience
       
 (DIR) Post #AUCI6fpSveGVYQ1t0C by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-04-01T04:45:10Z
       
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       I remember this great news being reported in 2019 @ruoff. do you know if there have been any  significant developments in this story since then? @brewsterkahle
       
 (DIR) Post #AUCKN5n0NPFYbtpqrY by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
       2023-04-01T05:11:26Z
       
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       @strypey @ruoff The UC system and Elsevier came to some kind of deal, but I don't know much about it.Would love to hear from those that do know.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUHdUAsQjHmfKrGMnw by ruoff@norden.social
       2023-04-03T18:38:14Z
       
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       @strypey No. // @brewsterkahle