Post ASSCFECFKLdYqWcMkq by mike@sauropods.win
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(DIR) Post #ASROAZNO9txFNUPmS0 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T15:49:27Z
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Just tried watching a bit of Youtube over lunch. Got 7 ad breaks in 10 minutes. Noped out. Advertising feels like it was in the pre-google pre-popup blocker days. It's getting more numerous and louder because it's getting less effective.
(DIR) Post #ASROlwEI9aOmyEyjS4 by commandlinekid@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-07T15:56:23Z
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@john Zero Ads if you watch youtube using Brave Browser and uBlock-Origin.
(DIR) Post #ASRP2raudkn5WAd6qe by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T15:59:25Z
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@commandlinekid While this sort of advice is correct as far as it goes (I mean, I know about ad blockers), I feel like there is a more fundamental problem I'm getting at than my own personal experience.
(DIR) Post #ASRP5HKnuT25veFMZ6 by commandlinekid@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-07T15:59:52Z
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@john I don't get it. If you use those two things do you have ads or not?
(DIR) Post #ASRP7IrPCwNrExSfEe by commandlinekid@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-07T16:00:15Z
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@john Oh you're speaking to the general issue? Ok that makes sense.
(DIR) Post #ASRPJWEzHm2kDJJgae by SkellySoft@mastodon.gamedev.place
2023-02-07T16:02:17Z
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@john when having to watch youtube videos via the official app (as newpipe no longer seems to work), I either turn my phone sound all the way down or consistently shout at my phone over every ad. it gets exhausting tbh
(DIR) Post #ASRPOMMpQGZP2VIBSi by joanbertran@mastodon.social
2023-02-07T16:03:10Z
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@john For that matter, I couldn't recommend the Vinegar extension more... https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vinegar-tube-cleaner/id1591303229
(DIR) Post #ASRPgRmo0uQb3h4G5Q by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T16:06:35Z
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@commandlinekid I was using Safari on an iPad with an ad blocker I forget the name of. It blocks ads on pages well enough that I never think about it, but it's not working on Youtube ads.
(DIR) Post #ASRS4kbjt45GI5bkvI by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T16:33:13Z
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@john Two words: uBlock. Origin. It will change your life.https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
(DIR) Post #ASRSA3HvrQj5fvs5E8 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T16:34:09Z
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@mike I have ad blockers, see my other comment response.
(DIR) Post #ASRSGEqDosj7FBrNLc by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T16:35:15Z
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@john Yes; but evidently not ones that block YouTube adverts.
(DIR) Post #ASRSfmkIttB5dXH12O by commandlinekid@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-07T16:40:06Z
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@john Open source. Works. With Brave (maybe all Chromium, I dont know). https://ublockorigin.com/
(DIR) Post #ASRSo7ikne890RWZto by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T16:41:34Z
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@commandlinekid Doesn't work with Safari.
(DIR) Post #ASRTBDhsi6ImEQ86Lo by commandlinekid@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-07T16:45:46Z
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@john Freedom is not Apple, regardless their pitch.
(DIR) Post #ASRTVrcq0GoxpRc9CK by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T16:49:29Z
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@commandlinekid I never said Apple was freedom, it's the opposite. If you think their experience is generally superior for you, you accept the lack of options, that's the Apple bargain.
(DIR) Post #ASRhqjDpqADdCplLPc by commandlinekid@noagendasocial.com
2023-02-07T19:30:09Z
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@john I didn't say you said that, I was making a statement that supported my note.
(DIR) Post #ASRrPmknbJ5DskyM6q by JohnnyDelirious@mstdn.ca
2023-02-07T21:17:07Z
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@john I’m on a friend’s YouTube Music family subscription, which includes ad-free YouTube, so it’s nasty shock when I go to play a video on someone else’s device and realise it’s gotten so toxically bad.
(DIR) Post #ASS5BFYJe1GUDL63ay by elysegrasso@historians.social
2023-02-07T22:59:01Z
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@mike @john I strongly recommend the combination of Ublock Origin and Privacy Badger. I have used both for years. People's description of what Youtube and Twitter are like on the desktop always seem weird to me: so much trash I just never see.
(DIR) Post #ASS5BGT2F8dR3FdM0G by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T23:42:51Z
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@elysegrasso @john For what it's worth, uBlock Origin alone does it for me, I don't find any need to add Privacy Badger too.
(DIR) Post #ASS5BHOSncZXvMVDW4 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T23:51:21Z
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@mike @elysegrasso Do either of these work in Safari for iPad?Technical questions aside, this IS NOT THE POINT.
(DIR) Post #ASS5VjNwR9ZuWw0hkG by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-07T23:55:04Z
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@john @elysegrasso I get that this is not the point you were making. But don't you want your life to be better?Anyway. uBlock Origin describes itself as "an efficient blocker for Chromium and Firefox". So I guess that's a no for Safari, sorry.
(DIR) Post #ASS63SmMgUYAsCWEcK by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:01:08Z
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@mike @elysegrasso Sometimes, I like to live as the common people do.
(DIR) Post #ASS7otj6PcT80uAw1g by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:20:56Z
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@john @elysegrasso In that case, I'll have rum and Coca Cola.
(DIR) Post #ASS80obXHWW7bRJpKa by elysegrasso@historians.social
2023-02-07T23:57:30Z
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@mike @john Looks like Privacy Badger supports Chrome, Firefox, Edge and Opera, and has an open ticket for Safari support and a note that the Safari API lacks some features they would need
(DIR) Post #ASS80p3BcidQzCFuQi by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:20:01Z
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@elysegrasso @john My sense is that in general Apple likes to maintain a vice-like grip on Safari, and that in itself is enough reason for me never to use it.
(DIR) Post #ASS80pUpxukkMxBzWq by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:23:06Z
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@mike @elysegrasso If I trust a company with my OS, I'm gonna trust their browser.
(DIR) Post #ASS87dO1O82uq1FVUe by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:24:22Z
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@john @elysegrasso Not when it won't let me block ads.
(DIR) Post #ASS8DqowLxL4EznwP2 by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:25:29Z
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@mike @elysegrasso Interestingly, it seems to only fail with YouTube, which fits nicely with the amount of common experience I am willing to tolerate.
(DIR) Post #ASS8ThqLUxXp211RZI by elysegrasso@historians.social
2023-02-08T00:28:21Z
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@john @mike Well, there's your problem 😉 . As a software engineer, I'm not quite in the group that proverbially keeps a gun next to the printer in case it acts shifty, but I come close. I avoid both Microsoft and Apple as much as I can.
(DIR) Post #ASS96qUHIGyP8OMaci by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:35:27Z
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@elysegrasso @mike I respect that! If you're sitting there running OpenBSD and all emacs to browse then web more power to you! 😀 I've always been aware of the tradeoffs of using Apple stuff is, and I'm *reasonably* comfortable with it. I think their incentives mostly align with my general computing taste. For now.
(DIR) Post #ASS9UOYgmg0ZSrejCK by lds@mastodon.online
2023-02-07T21:21:44Z
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@JohnnyDelirious @john One interesting aspect is how many ads are so obviously outside my interests and values. The other day I got one suggesting that some Space Karen project does more for people in my country than the government. I mean, really? 🤔
(DIR) Post #ASS9UOyvD8zYmDvg5Q by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T00:39:41Z
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@lds @JohnnyDelirious Yeah, it's really bad huh? The ad algorithm on Youtube thinks I'm just a whisker away from holidaying in Dubai and listing my company on Nasdaq. LO fucking L.
(DIR) Post #ASSBitV2k4KxOCzZBo by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T01:04:39Z
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@john @elysegrasso I share your sense of pragmatics in this respect. I do almost all my work (day-job and academic) on an eight-year-old MacBook whose build quality is so superb that it works as perfectly now as when I unboxed it But on that Mac, I run Emacs, Firefox/Chrome, GIMP, LibreOffice and VLC.
(DIR) Post #ASSC3wHLbXn25dcYWO by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T01:08:30Z
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@mike @elysegrasso If my main job were programming, I might feel differently. But Apple is so far ahead with supporting the actual work I do, it would be a complete disaster if I felt I had to abandon their platforms
(DIR) Post #ASSCFECFKLdYqWcMkq by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T01:10:32Z
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@john @elysegrasso Same thing for Fiona (my wife, the composer). She doesn't really need a computer at all, she just need something that can run Logic Pro. And that means a Mac. So we grit our teeth and pay the Apple Tax.
(DIR) Post #ASSCULScbMU7ieUAro by mike@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T01:13:14Z
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@john @elysegrasso My main job *is* programming, and Apple Hardware is still a great choice.
(DIR) Post #ASSDP5s7EVDBsTTD1c by john@sauropods.win
2023-02-08T01:23:31Z
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@mike @elysegrasso The money doesn't really bother me, the hardware is mostly so solid it's a small yearly expenditure (I get by with old Apple hardware too). Even if that wasn't the case, at least it's up-front. Their forays into services and advertising I watch like a hawk. That's where Apple will lose me, if that stuff starts to impact on experience or privacy in a meaningful way.