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(DIR) Post #ASPnL1Lt6q4JZpsCf2 by JoeUchill@mastodon.social
2023-02-06T21:22:11Z
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@kairyssdal I've had good luck using needles on balloons.
(DIR) Post #ASPnUbQMMaae3iXA6C by LOLRH1@toad.social
2023-02-06T21:23:50Z
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@kairyssdal come on, Kai, Raytheon had to get a little piece of the action, you know.
(DIR) Post #ASPnVMY79ZigDNWWDA by rcpierce@mastodon.online
2023-02-06T21:24:04Z
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@kairyssdal You know the pilot wanted to utter these lines so badly: "Too close for missiles, switching to guns."
(DIR) Post #ASPnbyERxjbYp7TbU0 by daniel@mastodon.danielnorton.com
2023-02-06T21:25:08Z
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@kairyssdal cigarettes are prohibited
(DIR) Post #ASPpWNKzuJjgrFzzNI by Will@thepit.social
2023-02-06T21:46:39Z
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@kairyssdal Yeah, I thought so too, but then saw the elevation profile. The F-22 was at 58k when it shot the missile, and the balloon was at 66k. A missile can ascend 8k ft, but a cannon shot would need to be level and fairly close. I have no idea what the F-22 can do, but no matter how you cut it, that's high altitude business up there. I'm guessing they thought this through at Langley and figured out the best method.
(DIR) Post #ASPpYEvq8AXNMp7XGa by GIzmoGurk@ioc.exchange
2023-02-06T21:46:58Z
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@kairyssdal Only $300K or so for a missile. Cheap.
(DIR) Post #ASPpzonosAAqR8WHAm by DuaneHere@mstdn.social
2023-02-06T21:51:58Z
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@kairyssdal Think they wanted to not only deflate it, but pop it, to be sure it'd come down in a region where they could retrieve it.
(DIR) Post #ASPqixOPmTyA6tA0fo by onealmp@mastodon.online
2023-02-06T22:00:05Z
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@kairyssdal Balloon was at really high altitude, I understand why they had to go with a missile.
(DIR) Post #ASPqkPBlvBKgbjwBSi by forpeterssake@mastodon.xyz
2023-02-06T22:00:24Z
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@kairyssdal This from the guy who said "I need everyone to calm the hell down about this balloon thing."
(DIR) Post #ASPrnMzIf4iubV56FU by DoctorOctothorp@mstdn.social
2023-02-06T22:12:08Z
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@kairyssdal I'd defer to some real experts, but I've read they wanted to blow up the balloon, not just put a lot holes in it. That way the balloon's payload would go into shallow water facilitating recovery. With a bunch of holes it would just slowly descend eventually coming down in deeper (international) water instead of within (shallow) US waters.
(DIR) Post #ASQ0eaAfAzJyTLHTvM by dwaites@infosec.exchange
2023-02-06T23:51:23Z
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@kairyssdal its a fifth generation air superiority balloon. The thrust vectoring makes them very hard to hit at range
(DIR) Post #ASQ2PEbrG5UJAJoJVI by eRileyKc@thepit.social
2023-02-07T00:11:01Z
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@kairyssdal Question - does a 20mm canon round detonate when hitting the water from that altitude? Can a sidewinder be remote detonated if if fails to hit? Not having live rounds down range would seem to be a good idea but all beyond my skillset.
(DIR) Post #ASQ60cuWAdqF6v3mS0 by chilort@wien.rocks
2023-02-07T00:51:24Z
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@kairyssdal they could just keep sending balloons until we bankrupt ourselves
(DIR) Post #ASQAKxtMGvKPn7TGwC by chilort@wien.rocks
2023-02-07T01:39:54Z
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@kairyssdal so, ummm, maybe. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64546767
(DIR) Post #ASQP2kiK1lEP1K5Bho by malc@masto.ai
2023-02-07T04:24:40Z
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@kairyssdal With balloon at 63,000ft and F-22 at it's ceiling (58,000ft), even pointed straight up you're well outside the 'accurate' range of the M61A2 gun (2,000ft). An AIM-9X Block II can be steered by the F-22 pilot, with a range of over 20 miles...
(DIR) Post #ASQbJH50esGxU7L6PI by SuperTapani@newsie.social
2023-02-07T06:42:06Z
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@kairyssdal - It is not a balloon. It is the Chinese Real-Estate Bubble!
(DIR) Post #ASQjp8Qt8uaHZAHBei by standev@mastodon.online
2023-02-07T08:17:30Z
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@kairyssdal allegedly the balloon was above the service ceiling for the F-22 gun door. Stealth is weird.
(DIR) Post #ASRxiiPwXyCDezcwgC by grumpybozo@toad.social
2023-02-07T22:27:56Z
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@kairyssdal Probably would have been a gentler descent too, if the balloon had just been pierced instead of exploded.
(DIR) Post #ASVr5iPgo2LJGFMtNI by andy@social.seattle.wa.us
2023-02-09T19:32:30Z
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@kairyssdal I would have thought a few cannon rounds through the balloon wound have maybe resulted in a softer landing as it came down? You could have secured and studied the contents of the balloon.