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 (DIR) Post #ASPD91kWD4Lcz5NMFE by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T08:15:34Z
       
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       It was nice to meet people at #FOSDEM, but I am sad that woman and covid got ignored. All keynote speakers were male. Almost nobody was wearing a mask. Using open source doesn't make you morally superior so you can ignore all other social issues.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPD92TtUMdzFobayG by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T12:41:08Z
       
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       Fun Fact btw: I was asking the FOSDEM team in advance what the COVID policy is and they gave me this: https://fosdem.org/2023/practical/covid/I said this is the bare minimum and I got the reply that its not, because there will be free masks. Ventilation was encouraged, but barely used, if even possible. FFP2 masks where not places prominently and while the official beer event was cancelled, it took place anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPD935TEehZ8MBbXc by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T12:44:13Z
       
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       I mean I totally get it, COVID isn't _that_ problematic anymore. Its super super excluding for anyone who has health issues to basically DO NOTHING! I am not asking to check the vaccination situation of everyone. I am not asking everyone to do daily tests. But wearing a mask and do a self test before going there isn't too much to ask for the majority.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPD93tSEogTdNZWS0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
       2023-02-06T14:36:32Z
       
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       @gcrkrause Why not let the vulnerable mask up and isolate? Quarantine those at risk.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPD9Bj779ALvcnNRY by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T12:45:39Z
       
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       All the covid things seems to be more or less mainstream though, but not having any non cis male keynote speaker is the real shame. Its 2023. Do your homework.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPDGyRmN5I33jOqyu by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T14:38:04Z
       
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       @amerika I am sure with some thinking you know why.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPFQIFAKyiGyJ4Uvg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
       2023-02-06T15:02:11Z
       
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       @gcrkrause I have thought about it a great deal.You either quarantine the infected, or the vulnerable.You do not quarantine the whole population.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPFduLNzbB8u0TNnk by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T15:04:38Z
       
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       @amerika Nobody asked for isolating the whole population.This discussion seems to be pretty useless, please leave me alone.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPFlLYnCYoxL5I6CW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
       2023-02-06T15:06:00Z
       
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       @gcrkrause Actually, that is exactly what they tried to do by forcing everyone to mask up and attempting to force the vaccine on us.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPFq8p1zNHZHSAlFI by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T15:06:51Z
       
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       @amerika what exactly do you not understand when I say please leave me alone? Or do you just lack the ability to respect my wish?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPG6hslP5UeeQok9A by amerika@noagendasocial.com
       2023-02-06T15:09:51Z
       
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       @gcrkrause You are on a public forum.If that bothers you, go private.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPGEnwKlWd3ksLgPI by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-06T15:11:18Z
       
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       @amerika shut up. Bye
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPGSo4V4YuaDYqSe0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T15:13:51.956135Z
       
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       because everyone is vulnerable to @covid19, including non-human species as diverse as reindeers, whales and babakoto.  If you are a human being and not some kind of lizard person, *you are vulnerable mask up*
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPGZQRjJF6kyKrnm4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T15:15:03.145405Z
       
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       @amerika Did you stay indoors, upon discovering that the people at the event were unmasked or did you GTFO immediately?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPGcc0ykpMFihsEZE by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T15:15:38.416481Z
       
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       No it isn't.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPHexcTV0XrG960K8 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T15:27:16.462369Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 So, just ignore the recent double blind randomized study of 270,000 participants that showed that masks are actually worse than nothing for preventing covid transmission?  Turns out unless the masks are "perfectly fitted" and replaced every 2-4 hours, and you don't touch them with your fingers the entire time you're wearing them,  they are more likely to cause infection, not less. Then, even if you do all those things, they offer no real benefit to prevent transmission in an everyday setting.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPHn0TskDAWRzugi0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T15:28:43.117881Z
       
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       I'm not ignoring anything.  > ? Turns out unless the masks are "perfectly fitted" and replaced every 2-4 hoursTHEN DO THIS> Then, even if you do all those things, they offer no real benefit to prevent transmission in an everyday setting.THEN DON'T GO TO EVERYDAY SETTINGS
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPHzY7nU1mEGnZ2Ia by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2023-02-06T15:30:59.737771Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @FreeinTX @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 no
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPI02pnJ0nPVwNb2e by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T15:31:05.123647Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 Again, if you do everything mentioned,  you're doing nothing more than avoiding the increased risk of infection caused by improperly wearing a mask.   You can't avoid covid. It's endemic.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPIe9mEucgUd6qNHc by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T15:38:18.770887Z
       
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       1) Covid is not endemic2) Yes you can avoid covid.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPIxsMfMRugPxHiiW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
       2023-02-06T15:41:52Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause One of the first things I did when the #covid19 issue was big was to avoid crowds.I mean, I do that generally, but it intensified.Another factor that few will discuss: air conditioning.It spreads around viruses.In humid populations, however, it can sometimes kill them by radical dehydration.We live by A/C here, but five hundred miles to the north this is no longer the case.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPJ97pqBMOZaHIMSW by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T15:43:55.481144Z
       
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       that is a problem, which is why we need to eradicate @covid19 ( and covidiots who go to events with unmasked unrelated people at it indoors ) as soon as possible.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPKpcxewjMGEjmaem by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:02:48.924805Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 No. You really can't.  1/3 of the people have already had it and didn't even know it.  Everyone is going to get covid.  You are less likely to avoid covid than the flu.  But it's less deadly than the flu, so who cares?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPL0gXpxmJOXIyeeG by Zealist@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:04:48.848275Z
       
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       @FreeinTX @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 unvaccinated, have never had covid <<in fact i didn't contract it even being in the same hosue with someone who did.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPLvdTg2U2hWvBgtE by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:15:06.498543Z
       
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       @Zealist @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 You could have had it and not known.  Over 1/3 of the people are this way.  Covid is risky if you're past life expectancy AND have 2 or more serious comorbidities.  Falling that, the flu is more deadly.  *bunk interpretations of meta studies aside.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPM1d4MTCpQ08Cj4q by Zealist@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:16:11.505165Z
       
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       @FreeinTX @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 dunno, don't care, all i really do know is this fag jeff is constantly trying to fear monger about covid and it's so fucking boring and old.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPNKYE4nkc4R6KpFo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:30:48.712467Z
       
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       Covid CAUSES you to have a new serious comorbidity.  So the next time you get covid you'll *have* a serious comorbidity.  > Falling that, the flu is more deadly.No it isn't.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPNfk3tzVELE3gFpA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:34:37.680658Z
       
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       Know what's getting fucking old?   4 years into this fucking pandemic we're STILL having people dying from it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPNh4bl5R2FEo9Ryq by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:34:53.184036Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 Nonsense.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPNjX2GMgYHz1ilOa by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:35:19.788557Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Zealist @gcrkrause @amerika @covid19 People have been dying from the flu for all of humanity
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPNw4u0H6DeUhq9XE by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:37:34.231498Z
       
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       No.  Here's the actual data;
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPO6bb7ZK7GnF1nGK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:39:29.492613Z
       
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       So?  Covid is NOT the flu
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPOBuhXy9k5URZ4SG by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:40:27.338562Z
       
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       and, incidentally ...we just eradicated one of the main strains of it in 2020.which means, we could eradicate the others if we wanted to.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPOboZFOhMPzm27UG by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:45:08.493453Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 "Admitted to the ICU" - in ICU with a positive covid test.  "Died" - within 30-90 days of a positive covid test. "With" covid versus "from" covid.We are finding out that deaths and hospitalizations "due to covid"  were over reported by as much as 90%.  In the US, this over reporting was highly incentive.  Up to $12,000 per case,
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPOjlOJ5iXcSbhqNc by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:46:34.687758Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 True. It simply has flu-like symptoms and is about as deadly.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPOro1tAK6cxa3UDQ by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:48:01.856077Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 We didn't eradicate shit.  Just like every flu virus, it ran its course.   Variants of covid are sprouting every 3-6 months
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPP95MTyhwrdavYVU by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:51:08.970825Z
       
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       These numbers aren't from the US.  The "admitted to the ICU with covid" crowd are there because they are DYING.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPJHKYKhvbecswF6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:52:59.775439Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 Admitted with covid is not the same as admitted because of covid or dying from covid.  It simply means that you tested positive for covid and are in the ICU.  The scam is a meme at this point.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPM2dbPtlsxE74Ay by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:53:29.477999Z
       
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       That's like saying HIV has "flu-like symptoms" and is about as deadly. While there may be flu-like symptoms at some point, most of the symptoms and most of what the disease does is *not* flu-like
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPU85x0j8ICEEHQ0 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:54:57.447303Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 You're insane if you believe covid to be a deadly as HIV/AIDS. Simply fucking retarded.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPUcHKmy41oDmnKK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:55:02.410996Z
       
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       Dying in an ICU from a vascular disease destroying your ability to hold oxygen in your body is not a mere meme> It simply means that you tested positive for covid and are in the ICU.Which is why there's a consistent amount of people who are sent to the ICU when any large number of people get covid right?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPVaZqbGWWp0uQVs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:55:12.983608Z
       
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       You're right.  It's more deadly.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPd9J3sMlgYlf8xk by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:56:35.228219Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 No.  Covid is contagious and spreads quickly. Having a heart disease, being severely obese, high blood pressure,  and 85 is the reason they are dying, not covid.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPiWMRaSKvVgo2y0 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T16:57:33.503619Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 Too bad the numbers don't show that.   HIV is sexually transmitted so the spread isn't as far reaching.  Fags and degenerates, mostly.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPmOI9WvVXdse0bA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:58:15.157390Z
       
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       Yes they do
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPPpdD8W9vSmWqLBY by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-02-06T16:58:50.302026Z
       
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       No, it's covid.  They wouldn't be dying but for covid.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPQMoHAOoNoehY6YC by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2023-02-06T17:04:49.821746Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @FreeinTX @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 >heart disease, morbidly obese, high BP, old as fuck>wouldn't be dying except for covidit's only monday, and this is already looking like a contender for most retarded post of the week
       
 (DIR) Post #ASPRPGsD94Mtslc74i by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-02-06T17:16:29.396474Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @gcrkrause @amerika @Zealist @covid19 Sure, jan.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASZAUgiwpxFnzbliUK by bonifartius@qoto.org
       2023-02-11T09:54:04Z
       
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       @gcrkrause i think people seriously need to relearn two things after the last years: risk estimation and choosing to take risks, facing the consequences of actions.from what i gather this years fosdem was also done online, why not participate there? risk free option. why impose _your_ risk assesment on others? clearly the covid measures of the last years didn't work all that well after all, or we wouldn't have any problem by now.regarding sexism, giving up meritocracy for whatever hell of rules people think up also doesn't work. might well be that there could be more keynotes from minorities. a free conference - any conference you didn't organize yourself - is the absolute wrong tree to bark up at. i don't even like fosdem all that much as it reeks of corporate "open source" money instead if proper free software. the politicization of software by whatever criteria is the current thing will kill free software first, as seen by the cancel attempt on RMS, and open source next as the licenses permit it easily.politicizing everything doesn't make you morally superior so that you can blame everything on everyone else.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASZFenHtmtMD14krHU by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-11T10:51:53Z
       
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       @bonifartius lol.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASZG4FftNmAaIS7IlE by bonifartius@qoto.org
       2023-02-11T10:56:31Z
       
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       @gcrkrause my, an eloquent rebuttal!interesting that all the people 100% on board of the bullshit train have so weak arguments that "lol" is deemed an appropriate answer.you don't follow reason, you follow a religion by now. you don't seek good solutions, you seek absolution and divine protection. you might find those in classic religions, but certainly not in science propped up as religion.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASZGQUiO8yXnJWtGbY by gcrkrause@lediver.se
       2023-02-11T11:00:30Z
       
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       @bonifartius I just refuse to talk to people who talk about cancelling white guys. Furthermore I don't believe I have to. Don't take it personal and don't assume bullshit about whatever I believe just because I do so. Thank you, have a good day and enjoy!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASZGUdCMXodCmcsoro by bonifartius@qoto.org
       2023-02-11T11:01:17Z
       
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       @gcrkrause Godspeed!