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(DIR) Post #ASLURYBTHJMJNbYrKq by georgetakei@universeodon.com
2023-02-04T19:28:58Z
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The GOP is in a bind. If Trump doesn’t win the nomination, he will likely run as a third party candidate. You can’t ride the tiger, Republicans. It will always turn back and eat you.
(DIR) Post #ASLURYiRIjjL1qzBiq by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-04T19:31:36Z
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@georgetakei The idea of another trump is depressing. More so than another Biden, but biden for another term is oretty scary too. One day hope ill see a decent candidate from either side, or even better a third party win.
(DIR) Post #ASLYQryuaOVUJ7cLeS by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-04T20:16:17Z
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@freemo Biden has done a great job. I do wish we could get a younger Dem to run. Pete Buttigieg , Josh Shapiro but our bigoted country would never elect a gay man or a Jewish man.
(DIR) Post #ASLYZOqiGhGsYsqloe by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-04T20:17:50Z
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@beckymsm i disagree, bidens career has been an absolute disgrace (and his very low approval rating reflects that).That said Pete Buttigeg was my top choice for dems, so we agree on that point.
(DIR) Post #ASLYuAAO3Min6ax9f6 by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-04T20:21:36Z
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@freemo We will to agree to disagree. He has done something no President has done in years. the infrastructure bill is huge. Dems don't message well and do not reach those that need to hear. You are part of the crowd they need to talk to, you would not be so down on him .
(DIR) Post #ASLYzIrHAHyjVhStf6 by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-04T20:22:32Z
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@freemo https://www.upworthy.com/joe-biden-s-23-greatest-achievements-as-president-of-the-united-states-so-far
(DIR) Post #ASLZARTlSAkfQsmNRw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-04T20:24:32Z
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@beckymsm I actually know him personally, he has been over for dinner and spent thr night. So im a bit of an unusual case when it comes to Biden haters ;)
(DIR) Post #ASLf0LNXsY2nLGREvo by PJLavatai@universeodon.com
2023-02-04T21:29:57Z
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@freemo @georgetakei I would love to see Pete B.If they would start grooming Jaime Harris, he would make a great President in a few years.We have far too many career politicians. Candidates need to understand the game, but not yet be jaded by it.
(DIR) Post #ASLhIWnYMNZBsbOynY by elliot@social.lgm.ltd
2023-02-04T21:54:48Z
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@freemo @georgetakei Elizabeth Warren was right there.
(DIR) Post #ASMHEooR2QxewQLRku by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-05T04:38:21Z
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@elliot Im not sure she woukd have been any better... Warren, Biden, and Bearnie were the tbree choices that would have all been horrible dem choices. The others were pretty tolerable and some even good decent choices imo.@georgetakei
(DIR) Post #ASMHLjHI0wLtnr8X9U by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-05T04:39:36Z
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@PJLavatai Pete B really woukd have been a great choice. I think his las name, as silly as it seems, and the fact that he is gay cost him the vote. That is depressing for the future.@georgetakei
(DIR) Post #ASMM7zU9SSaJmoQAJk by the_Effekt@universeodon.com
2023-02-05T05:33:08Z
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@freemo @georgetakei As long as the DNC is around to market and elevate establishment Democrats, we're pretty much stuck in the same cycle of choices that have been forced down our throats time and time again.
(DIR) Post #ASMNHBsupJ7CnpxGjY by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-05T05:46:01Z
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@the_Effekt Id love to see both the gop and dnc go away@georgetakei
(DIR) Post #ASMO4cwmzuNovQL8ng by the_Effekt@universeodon.com
2023-02-05T05:54:57Z
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@freemo @georgetakei Me too. And it really grates that we're paying (through taxes), the DNC/RNC to limit our options.
(DIR) Post #ASNri77bpp0pdGXeV6 by westtexasjesus@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-02-05T23:01:41Z
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@freemo @georgetakei just take a closer look at how the system is constructed and have no fear as the ruling class will be able to handle a third party and any potential candidate you can possibly think of. They own you political system.
(DIR) Post #ASOVQlYQlUczzBN09w by Extra_Special_Carbon@mastodon.world
2023-02-05T00:51:17Z
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@beckymsm @freemo I agree. Biden had an incredibly narrow margin to work with, but he pulled off amazing things while cleaning up after Trump, dealing with a trap set on Afghanistan, a pandemic, supply chains, and a war half the country wants to lose.I don’t know what went into that railroad decision, but definitely the supply chain issue played into it. Sometimes theres no good way out.I trust Biden like no other president.
(DIR) Post #ASOVQw67Z5WEgZD33o by westtexasjesus@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-02-05T23:05:44Z
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@Extra_Special_Carbon @beckymsm @freemo so when do we get a national health care system and public housing for the poor? 20 billion ends homelessness but they have spent 100 billion on a proxy war. Apparently the capitalist still run the show. Wake up soon or perish for the rich.
(DIR) Post #ASOVR3j1CrnCLESiA4 by Extra_Special_Carbon@mastodon.world
2023-02-05T23:22:27Z
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@westtexasjesus @beckymsm @freemo When any of this is politically feasible. The right didn’t take over the Supreme Court and overturn Roe v Wade overnight, the incrementally changed things to suit them until they could because that’s what works.You want to scare voters away and be absolutely certain none of that happens, keep on going with “all or nothing” policies that have zero chance of getting anywhere.
(DIR) Post #ASOVR4QyZQxEXZ1og4 by westtexasjesus@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-02-06T02:03:52Z
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@Extra_Special_Carbon @beckymsm @freemo from Jesus' perspective the entire political system is right wing.
(DIR) Post #ASOVR5DBgBWEx5aJpA by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T06:26:47Z
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@westtexasjesus Nah jesus **never** prea hed that people should be forced agsinst their will to help others at threat of arrest at gunpoint. In fact leftwing and rightwi g ideals are very contrary to jesus's teachinggs.@Extra_Special_Carbon @beckymsm
(DIR) Post #ASPZs60nPGL8E8svVA by atompunkray@kolektiva.social
2023-02-04T21:06:55Z
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@beckymsm @freemo you know, it’s more than a little condescending to suggest that the only reason we don’t like Biden is because the Dems are “bad at messaging.” I know what Biden is about, he was communicating just fine when he betrayed the railroaders union.
(DIR) Post #ASPZs6niTNTIfrlzkm by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-04T21:38:54Z
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@atompunkray @freemo I stand by my stance on messaging. I also agree the railroad thing was horrible! I was/am totally disgusted by that action.
(DIR) Post #ASPZs7QM9iNcbhqqyu by atompunkray@kolektiva.social
2023-02-06T15:03:22Z
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@beckymsm @freemo you’re free to do so. Just don’t be surprised when you have trouble convincing ppl to vote Democrat. Maybe the Dems should focus less on how they can spin “business as usual” to appeal to millennials and zoomers, and focus more on actually sticking up for working people and marginalized people.
(DIR) Post #ASPZuJNChSfQFJQFwu by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T18:51:41Z
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@atompunkray Very well said, agreed@beckymsm
(DIR) Post #ASPfE186jos1E9ZqTo by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-06T18:39:08Z
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@atompunkray @freemo So vote GOP, because they are doing a great job solving issues. Keeping women's rights, Oops, no. Keeping voting rights, oops, No. Encouraging learning, oops, no they banned the books. Protecting LGBT, oops, no.
(DIR) Post #ASPfE1hYc1E706A9jc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T19:51:16Z
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@beckymsm About as good a job as the DNC, which is to say, they aren't@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPfRcku9pnfgbDEUS by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-06T19:53:43Z
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@freemo @atompunkray tell me how the DNC is banning books, taking away healthcare, taking away education and implementing voter suppression.
(DIR) Post #ASPfvRaYEzA5jvaZYe by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T19:59:04Z
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@beckymsm The ways the dnc is doing harm is different than the ways the gop harm. Plus ive made it clear im no fan of the gop. So listing a bunch of ways the gop sucks, which i mostly agree with, is doing nothing to progress your argument.@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPgLYRfN12IXCspyy by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:03:50Z
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@beckymsm Its always very telling when the overwhelming majority of people who support the dnc spend all their time arguing how much the gop sucks, a sure sign they have nothing to offer themselves.. Its almost like they dont realize we have several other options besides the two parties destroying peoples lives."Join the DNC, where we destroy lives marginally less then the GOP. Oh and remember if you dont vote for us ya ain't black" ::eye roll::@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPgX4jleLlHs6qNKC by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-06T20:05:45Z
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@freemo @atompunkray Generalizing is really a bad way to think you are winning an argument. Tell me what "other" options? A 3rd party? A dictator?
(DIR) Post #ASPgn3GGu80DvbfJR2 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:08:46Z
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@beckymsm Just look on the ballot every election, you get more than two choices to pick from, some people on the ballot are from other parties, some on the ballot have no party affiliation at all. Christ you can write in a name if your in a pinch. @atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPh58j5KE845aleTo by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-06T20:12:03Z
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@freemo @atompunkray Yes, you can. I know how to read. If that is your only solution to affect change, I fear that is also a losing argument. I guess I could just move out the Country too.
(DIR) Post #ASPhP6UhKkDcxTYdvs by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:15:41Z
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@beckymsm I dont recall saying it was my only solution. I am pointing out how silly the argument is that the dnc being evil is somehow ok and a good choice simply because of a bunch of reasons the gop is evil... the decision isnt between two choices so the existence of an even more (maybe) evil party is no excuse to promote your marginally less evil one.@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPhqGabuJYG5TH8wi by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-06T20:20:35Z
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@freemo @atompunkray Evil to me is allowing the GOP to continue to do what they do. That is evil. Is the DNC perfect, NOPE. Neither are any of the other choices. I don't see the Dems as "evil". Not sure what you see as evil.
(DIR) Post #ASPiXYD0H7SDBUsBma by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:28:24Z
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@beckymsm Letting the GOP continue what it is does would indeed be evil, so would letting the DNC. There you go again focusing on the GOP like it is remotely relevant.@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPipQjanrsPDQdrPM by beckymsm@newsie.social
2023-02-06T20:31:37Z
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@freemo @atompunkray I don''t think dems are evil. You haven't told me why you think they are. To say it doesn't make it so.
(DIR) Post #ASPjm3AW40fjDHBfto by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:42:13Z
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@beckymsm Lets start with the fact that ellected a man who is on record as saying he doesnt want "Racial jungles" and started his entire career trying to **stop** segregation.. .Then once he realized how unpopular that was he panders to minorities to a disgusting and disingenuine degree simply because its popular... Yes they elected the first man in my life time who literally got his start trying to keep segregation alive. I could spend hours writing you a long list, but if I even need to list a single thing past this point and you dont think the dems are evil, then any other points I list are going to fall on deaf ears anyway.@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPkBLtlZ0XuXgPx7g by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:46:48Z
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@beckymsm Lets start with the fact that ellected a man who is on record as saying he doesnt want "Racial jungles" and started his entire career trying to **stop** desegregation.. .Then once he realized how unpopular that was he pandered to minorities to a disgusting and disingenuous degree simply because its popular... Yes they elected the first man in my life time who literally got his start trying to keep segregation alive. I could spend hours writing you a long list, but if I even need to list a single thing past this point and you dont think the dems are evil, then any other points I list are going to fall on deaf ears anyway.@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASPkfeo3pRS1s7CQbI by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-06T20:52:16Z
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@beckymsm Lets start with the fact that they elected a man who is on record as saying he doesnt want "Racial jungles" and started his entire career trying to **stop** desegregation.. .Then once he realized how unpopular that was he pandered to minorities to a disgusting and disingenuous degree simply because its popular... Yes they elected the first man in my life time who literally got his start trying to keep segregation alive. I could spend hours writing you a long list, but if I even need to list a single thing past this point and you dont think the dems are evil, then any other points I list are going to fall on deaf ears anyway.@atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASR07Ahn1x055rnv72 by werner58@qoto.org
2023-02-07T11:20:02Z
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@freemo @beckymsm @atompunkray My take on Biden is that he's always been good at positioning himself at about the midway point in the Democratic party spectrum, and following it as it moved. Honestly, as I grow older I tend to appreciate this quality more and more in politicians: too many people with bright ideas who thought themselves very clever have failed to impress me, while my appreciation for the hard thankless work of coalition building has grown.And yeah, of course a lot that passed for boring midway point liberal attitudes when he was young is now considered racist. Jon Stewart made fun of trans people on the Daily Show not that many years ago, most Dem politicians supported the death penalty and draconian laws in the '90s... Those who spend a whole life in politics or culture will always come to regret something they said.
(DIR) Post #ASR0UIyiRCb5PckgaG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-07T11:24:05Z
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@werner58The problem isnt that he was once racist and changed, though that is a tough pill to swallow. The issue is tbe lack of remorse. Never an apology. It doesnt help how transparent the minority pandering is either. So much so he will pick a vice president with a horrific record just because she is a minority rather than picking someone qualified. @beckymsm @atompunkray
(DIR) Post #ASR6GXdlj8EGYam55s by GSDmom@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-02-07T12:28:59Z
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@freemo This is my dream.
(DIR) Post #ASRF9Qhc1UbgbEFvUG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-02-07T14:08:31Z
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@GSDmom me too
(DIR) Post #AW47zxpXUglH0TiFlo by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-05-27T01:58:27Z
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@freemo @georgetakei Oh, look, yet another truly bad take.
(DIR) Post #AW5JjSmMZE9Kg55LgO by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-27T15:44:35Z
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@TruthSandwich Says the master of bad takes...Biden is a old family associate. He has been over my mom's & dad's house for dinner and spent the night (including recently)... yes he is a piece of shit racist slime ball... If you think thats a bad take about biden, a man who's entire career started en order to keep segregation alive, so be it... You have lost any credibility when it comes to "bad takes" if you support Biden or Trump.@georgetakei
(DIR) Post #AW5KvJi6D6V5yrJ6GG by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-05-27T15:57:59Z
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@freemo @georgetakei Yes, of course it's a bad take.Biden is president because the base of the DNC, which is Black, chose him. Clyburn chose him and Obama chose him. The voters chose him.Now, I can't see into the heart of men, but I can see their actions, which is what counts. I have no reason to think that Biden is racist, but his actions show that he's actively antiracist.I support Biden and he is the only person who can stop Trump, so attacking Biden only helps Trump.
(DIR) Post #AW5LIs4EdbiJCItOSm by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:02:13Z
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@TruthSandwich As a minority myself I find it laughable you are telling me about how blacks vote....Actions do count, and his actions have been clear, he will support minorities **only** when he can use that to manipulate his own advantage, and will (and has) thrown them under a bus and play the white supremacist role when it likewise suited him... You support a white supremacist, yay, have fun.@georgetakei
(DIR) Post #AW5LPsw7nwhBv7RYiO by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:03:31Z
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@freemo @georgetakei I'm telling you that the narrative of Biden as a racist is undermined by the strong support he has from the very same group you claim he is racist towards. Maybe don't call Black voters idiots for supporting Biden?Once again, Trump is the white supremacist candidate and Biden is literally the only person who can stop him again.
(DIR) Post #AW5LX4laDfGidZwRCi by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:04:47Z
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@TruthSandwich And this is why your judgement on what is a "bad take" has no value, this right here... You are trying to dictate to a minority who personally knows Biden what minorities should think of Biden... Wow.@georgetakei
(DIR) Post #AW5LlAFYd2xzhLgCcy by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:07:22Z
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@freemo @georgetakeiI don't dictate, I take dictation. When Black voters say that Biden's not racist, everyone should listen.
(DIR) Post #AW5Lp7RkzdIeA8Gu9o by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:08:02Z
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@TruthSandwich @georgetakei Odd, you seem quite deaf to this minority vote then... so your claims seem hollow about listening to minorities.
(DIR) Post #AW5MFYh0JeMSC30iyO by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:12:51Z
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@freemo @georgetakei I'm quite "deaf" to any attempt to equate liberalism with fascism.
(DIR) Post #AW5MJxSEC7km9HCHLM by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-27T16:13:39Z
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@TruthSandwich @georgetakei Yes I am quite aware of the fact that you are blind to fascism when it is bated in the propaganda of your preferred side... very aware.