Post ASNSOna7lL3KfpZYbA by cracky@rot.gives
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 (DIR) Post #ASNPSdAm6Y4vgeqq5Q by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T17:37:30.209621Z
       
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       You should ALWAYS ask French philosophers what petition they signed in 1977It was a GOOD petition
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNPTAkjFtRjpivWD2 by spaceheater@freak.university
       2023-02-05T17:44:08Z
       
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       @salty I found about Foucault a few months ago myself. The 70's were pretty based for CLs. The abuse industry edged out, but we'll have the last laugh.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNPaCWd3zEPMFgPlQ by cracky@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T17:46:37.609854Z
       
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       @salty leftists meme on it being somehow bad but it just reveals them as liberals preoccupied with the bad optics of actually giving a shit about kids
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNPfKOpDNwHE8TfkW by cracky@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T17:47:32.870371Z
       
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       @spaceheater @salty foucault was one of the most correct people to ever articulate thoughts
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNQXUTBzOhI66LZlQ by driftwood@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T17:57:19.310363Z
       
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       @salty i agree with this but also there was both a letter and a petition that are different in content and the list of signatories for each are different and it's just, good to know because no one ever actually bothers to read the french wiki article which has a bit more information and just endlessly repeat around the same tired blatantly homophobic lies about foucault and and and and i hate that entire topic
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNQZtlmtb6Z8vC1w0 by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T17:53:22.137046Z
       
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       @cracky lol, but in all fairness i think most of them have good faith mental constructs of consent and when it truly occurs or the morally relative goodness that AoC laws do or whatever, they are just wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNR2ivUI5fTuUTVeS by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:01:08.404310Z
       
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       @driftwood when i first saw that meme i went to the English wiki article and read the first sentence and said to myself aw that's good actually and did no further research
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNR3du2S9NScVEeo4 by driftwood@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:03:09.116134Z
       
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       @salty yeah fair enoughit's a smear game anyways
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNROXUJUyrOo1APdg by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:02:56.084229Z
       
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       @lilycunnysseur funny hijinks
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNROY1HWPEQSGak1g by cracky@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:06:54.553046Z
       
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       @salty @lilycunnysseur scout leader's rights
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNRXGTe76mMec11Cy by cracky@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:08:29.356877Z
       
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       @salty i dont think its very common for people to consciously have bad faith mental constructs about thingsbut after typing that sentence im realizing im actually not at all confident in that statement 🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNRc5JN3TDjTKVXCi by netdoll@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-02-05T18:09:23.245712Z
       
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       @cracky @salty on the whole I definitely don't think it's common, but for certain kinds of people it's *very* common
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNRmDMxwzF7ML1Gzo by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:05:39.657859Z
       
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       @driftwood no i mean maybe it's not fair enoughI don't practice a lot of rigor i just go by my own instinctsthe more i talk to you the more i run into that
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNRmDwlnrsn9Nlrns by driftwood@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:11:11.561376Z
       
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       @salty when i was more into marxism i was very exposed to arguments regarding what said person had historically said on such and such thing, both in the sense of "this is scripture" (though they didn't put it that way always) and in the sense of "this is disgusting". this happened to figures i liked and figures i disliked and figures i was ambivalent about. the space is rife with itone of the people i saw this about was lenin on sex workers. someone, who knows who, repeated a claim that lenin ordered a massace of sex workers at some point during the civil war, and hated sex workers. i am not a fan of lenin, both as an intellectual or as a political figure or in any way, but at that time i wanted to be fair, so i did my rigorous searching - this claim is sourced from a collection of letters by lenin. the conclusion i came to was that lenin was using the term "prostitutes" as an insult to refer to political opponents, and not *literally* ordering sex workers to be massacred, though i've no doubt that he didn't have the best thoughts on them. this took me time to look up, track down sources, double check, see discussion, etc etctoday if i hear something like that my answer is, if it's true it sucks, if it's not true good and i don't caresometimes it's fine to skip the rigorous search unless you have a specific interest in the topic if you're operating on a series of principles which sidestep the issue
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNS5bM8zanDFrsaau by driftwood@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:14:42.246969Z
       
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       @salty ultimately you answer of, "this is good actually", is a good answer - it might be worth looking more into it, but that's a function of whether you're honestly interested in knowing more about the topic and talking about it, and not about investigating truth or putting the past on the stand
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNSOn1jpBXyxBU608 by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:11:22.026160Z
       
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       @cracky @lilycunnysseur "et puis les enfants baisent. La plus drole merde j'aie jamais vue."
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNSOna7lL3KfpZYbA by cracky@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:18:10.671257Z
       
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       @salty @lilycunnysseur hes innocent. the children Will it upon him
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNSOvLssAPolyyIVs by salty@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:16:39.646642Z
       
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       @driftwood yeah, I'm just more conscious of this now. I wasn't at all when i was younger. It's definitely true what they say the older you get the stupider you feel
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNSOvr50BMwKjZD8a by driftwood@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:18:12.016750Z
       
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       @salty yes. i feel profoundly stupid every single day and worsening. thankfully im also better at shutting up so it mostly evens out into an outwardly serene presence
       
 (DIR) Post #ASNSW4VnDOZ3D00xxg by driftwood@rot.gives
       2023-02-05T18:19:28.589341Z
       
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       @salty if you don't think you've been rigorous generally in looking into things so far, i am enamoured by the idea of what a salty like that would be
       
 (DIR) Post #ASWUwFINh0DGVuzOE4 by bitterblossom@lolison.top
       2023-02-10T02:59:01.875163Z
       
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       @lilycunnysseur @salty based baguette