Post ASL6kGtLOgnuLnTbQO by feld@bikeshed.party
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(DIR) Post #ASKxZOc9ReEbWsAqvI by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-04T13:23:01.073319Z
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They treat you like you did hate crimes against open source when you say this out loud tho
(DIR) Post #ASL2QfsIOwsqE4Nzsm by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-02-04T14:17:44.759860Z
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@feld its fine just don't frame it as being more free
(DIR) Post #ASL6kGtLOgnuLnTbQO by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-04T15:05:51.280880Z
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It's not more free, but I gain a lot more free time by not spending my life trying to fix desktop bugs
(DIR) Post #ASLDYkUYDazKMFKfQ0 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-02-04T16:22:26.650922Z
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@feld I respect that distinction.
(DIR) Post #ASLF23ZwQry1uIOPGS by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2023-02-04T16:38:55.767Z
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@feld@bikeshed.party Eh, I get why some people want to use them, but I just don't understand why Apple does things like they do.I once tried to use a Mac for work, and it made me quit the job, because I just couldn't be any productive with it, and it genuinely made me stressed.
(DIR) Post #ASLe2yrNxXjAPr5atM by primalmotion@antisocial.ly
2023-02-04T21:19:14Z
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@feld Been there, done that. You should be back to Linux in couple of years. See you then.
(DIR) Post #ASLgOI9Hdi2CEDkb3I by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-04T21:45:22.353257Z
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Ummmm I stopped using Gentoo/FreeBSD on my desktop on 2009, when do you think I'll be back? They still haven't replaced X11 with anything comparable to Quartz
(DIR) Post #ASLhYbDBibsUCX3W2C by primalmotion@antisocial.ly
2023-02-04T21:58:35Z
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@feld it took me a while. Like 5y to 6y before I got fed up with decisions taken by Apple that were going more an more against me. I realized I was just trying to bend macOS more and more to be like Linux and decided that spending week adapting a Linux setup to get what was cool on macOS was way more beneficial. Also when I went back, the desktop stack was way better with systemd, wayland and pipewire. Just be careful with all the great Apple services integration. Breaking out the golden cage was the hardest. Apple screwed my photo and music library almost beyond repair.
(DIR) Post #ASLic5699qctiOzDjE by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-04T22:10:04.528845Z
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I've run:CDEKDE 2.x-4.xGnome ancient 2.x to modern 3.x / GTK3BlackboxOpenboxFluxboxFVWMI ran X back before you could support more than 3 mouse buttons. When you needed to know the exact modelines for your monitor or it could literally explode. Back when it was still XFree86, and then the fork to Xorg where we had to hop back and forth between the two for feature support until the community all merged into Xorg again. Through Twinview and Xinerama.I have compiled every binary with my CPU specific flags so the binaries won't work on someone else's PC just to get that last 5% of performance. I have stripped down my kernels to the exact device drivers and features needed by my hardware. I have run patchsets that nobody remembers and schedulers you've never heard of.Was it fun to learn how *nix systems work? Yes. Is it fun to debug half-finished unpolished open source desktops and applications? No.I learned a lot. But most of all I learned that if I spend my time focused on real problems I can get a job that makes me literally 10x as much money. And I do that on an Apple desktop which, thankfully, is extremely tightly integrated with my phone -- something I can never have on a free desktop.I'm not likely to ever come back. My time is just too valuable.
(DIR) Post #ASLiuBctcnUnAswDY0 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-04T22:13:25.789701Z
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Wayland is not good though, it can't do most of the features I care about.And pulseaudio / pipewire can die in a fire. OSSv4 will always be superior in latency and bit precision and the closest that exists is Apple's CoreAudio.Systemd is terrible and breaks stuff for me all day at work, I don't need that at home too.The only benefit is that it's free. But if they both were free we know which one everyone would pick.
(DIR) Post #ASLosCUG3Mj6zQKkam by primalmotion@antisocial.ly
2023-02-04T23:20:34Z
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@feld well I could argue the exact opposite of all your statements. Wayland is smooth as F, pipewire works like a charm for all audio production I do as a hobby and systemd, boy, I don't know why people trash it continuously. Especially that it is basically a clone of launchd.But TBH, I don't really care. If you're happy in Apple's camp that's fine. I was just sharing that I went through the same path, and I do not want to have anything related to apple in my close vicinity anymore. I'm just warning you to not fall too deep into all iShit services, because leaving is hard, long and painful.
(DIR) Post #ASLrGpk9wxq1bFe4Ey by nqd@cdrom.tokyo
2023-02-04T23:03:17.813287Z
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@feld @primalmotionI've been running linux in general for about 12 years now and I only really had problems when I had a custom set up for everything.Once I got into college and started using my computer for more then just hobby code I moved over to fedora and I've been on it since.I did customize things a bit, moved to sway and made some changes with the ui, but I kept things as stock as I could for the simplicity of it.This just leads me to say that if you're using something for work you should probably keep it as stock as possible for the best experience, debugging included.I tried to move to apple as well because alot of people in the tech world like to use them, but I just couldnt do it. Too many walls still.I enjoy having the *option* to customize things however I see fit, regardless if I actually do. Also I dont like how integrated everything is, my personal sanity needs distinction between utility items.
(DIR) Post #ASLrGqwxSrfbLEdnpQ by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-02-04T23:47:02.159755Z
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> Also I dont like how integrated everything is, my personal sanity needs distinction between utility items.But I can copy on one screen and look at a different screen and paste it. That's like a $10,000 feature for me. It works on all the screens in my home except the TV.My phone can be a wireless camera for all the other screens now too. There's like zero latency it's crazy magic. This kind of integration is what we always dreamed of except we aren't flinging things with hand gestures
(DIR) Post #ASM7FxDEII0nk0qSJM by nqd@cdrom.tokyo
2023-02-05T01:16:59.411406Z
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@feld @primalmotionThat shit is so cool, tech is becoming more similar to magic every year I swear.But I honestly wouldnt use it. Its cool to have the feature there and available but I know that I wouldnt use it.I have the most integration that I would want with my pine phone and being able to rsync manually and pull music, photos, the like from my pc.Integration is beautiful in moderation but it just doesnt sit well with me when its so hard to break out of; Apple locks so much of their stuff down now a days.Having to jump through so many hoops or having to leave stuff behind when I dont want to just seems icky. That being said, I'm glad that you found some comfort in your daily computing, everyone should have the freedom to use what they think is best!Happy computing~! :gura_fingerguns: