Post ASKlsDbXP9hjR160Jc by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
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(DIR) Post #ASKiiTTnE8Vhuc8SLQ by radio@infosec.exchange
2023-02-04T05:35:21Z
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The Cablegate section of Wikileaks has been working fine, and was recently used for a timely article. @Cryptome https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/03/diplomatic-cables-prove-top-u-s-officials-knew-they-were-crossing-russias-red-lines-on-nato-expansion/
(DIR) Post #ASKiiUDAVQo4BLMh4S by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T10:36:51Z
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@radio @Cryptome Ukraine is of course a democracy of 40M+ people and it's their, and only their, opinion on whether to apply to join EU or Nato or not. They chose the "West" above Russia. Russia then invaded their country.The only actual line crossed here is by Russia, and the line is known as Ukraine's national border.
(DIR) Post #ASKlsDbXP9hjR160Jc by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T10:56:00.710207Z
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@troed you forget the CIA messed with the country in 2014 in such a telling "color revolution"...
(DIR) Post #ASKlsE7nTDVb34Blb6 by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T11:12:11Z
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@sxpert I didn't forget. I just don't deal in peddling russian propaganda.(i.e, no, that didn't happen)
(DIR) Post #ASKnz3Y9Nz0GBbtqGO by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:13:40.135863Z
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@troed just like it didn't happen in Chile, 1973, right.
(DIR) Post #ASKnz47bGBMLxYU9WC by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:15:27.481352Z
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@troed or just like the US didn't illegally invade Irak in 2003.you're deluded, man
(DIR) Post #ASKnz4XpgeLLGul6PI by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T11:35:52Z
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@sxpert Weird - right? It's like one thing happening doesn't actually mean another completely different thing didn't happen.
(DIR) Post #ASKoKWfyI57GbInNk8 by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:34:04.823408Z
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@troed it just means the fact the CIA messed with Ukraine is a high probability proposition, considering their history of fucking with countries over the years.Saying the contrary is just proving to the world you'd be a US/NATO propaganda apologist.
(DIR) Post #ASKoKXBAQ64OA3OIMq by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T11:39:45Z
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@sxpert Or, you know, you read up upon the subject matter before peddling russian propaganda?Here - Wikipedia can help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_DignityNote all the instances of "parliament" vs "president" and remember the concept of democracy.
(DIR) Post #ASKokgiBbIeTFsJ3Nw by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:39:26.482391Z
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@troed time to read some actual press.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict
(DIR) Post #ASKokhPmzBWvR6hsLg by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T11:44:29Z
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@sxpert Notice the word "Opinion" to the top right. It's not "actual press" in the sense that it's journalistic reporting.What in the Wikipedia article I linked is factually wrong?
(DIR) Post #ASKowsN44qxUtIErQG by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:41:26.080608Z
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@troed it misses the part where the CIA is involved. time to get real and stop the delusions.
(DIR) Post #ASKowsv62KBGaqA2T2 by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T11:46:41Z
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@sxpert Your claims doesn't become more factual just because you repeat them, so, again:You're peddling russian propaganda without any actual factual basis.That's your choice, of course. My choice is to call you out on it and prove to anyone reading that you don't have any actual sources.
(DIR) Post #ASKpYOR3pEDv3Fzta4 by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:44:11.329827Z
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@troed and you're peddling US/NATO propaganda.that's your choice, of course. My choice is to call you out on it and prove to anyone reading you don't have any actual sources.
(DIR) Post #ASKpYP3hVZ8Ez64koC by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T11:53:28Z
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@sxpert ... besides you linking to someone's opinion and me linking to well sourced facts?:DCongratulations on that plan. It's going swell for you!You've had your pants publically pulled down. Maybe you should keep to commenting where you have fellow russian propagandists available? It's ... not this part of the Mastodon network.
(DIR) Post #ASKqeXa0q6nz6VgCbw by sxpert@mastodon.sxpert.org
2023-02-04T11:54:52.128487Z
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@troed you keep denying the US is just attempting to yet again save their empire while fomenting war in some distant country, leading to their weapons industries making shitons of money.you're just a US/NATO apologist.who knew the swedes were that lame.
(DIR) Post #ASKqeYGuGd7HFXkSTA by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T12:05:47Z
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@sxpert Weird. It's like one thing happening has absolutely nothing to do with another thing happening.You don't have any actual factual sources for your claims. Being anti-US doesn't mean anything you claim is true.You know what? Maybe you're trying to push your agenda onto someone who happens to know a bit about Ukraine. Who isn't relying on opinion pieces influenced by russian propaganda.How about that./protested out on the streets against the US invasion of Iran in 2003
(DIR) Post #ASKrLBAw0xlQ4OHVbM by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T12:13:30Z
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1991. Already then, the people of Ukraine clearly indicated they did not want to be part of Russia.They then spent the years since to move even more towards "the west" in values.https://library.fes.de/pdf-files/id-moe/13731.pdf
(DIR) Post #ASLOBuGmnT1nWFCjrc by radio@infosec.exchange
2023-02-04T18:21:35Z
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@troed @Cryptome It's not a Democracy. Half the people have left the country.What is the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine?Leaked diplomatic cables prove the US knows it's push to extend NATO up Russia's ass was based on falsehoods. Read your lesson, then, begone troll.I linked the article that you did not read before you commented.
(DIR) Post #ASLOEBAGx8b6UsF1mq by radio@infosec.exchange
2023-02-04T18:22:01Z
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@troed @Cryptome CIA really had it's way with Sweden. They own you.
(DIR) Post #ASLOiBzISQajjkQ2YC by troed@masto.sangberg.se
2023-02-04T18:27:26Z
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@radio @Cryptome Half? Weird - that's a plainly false statement easily verified by anyone reading this discussion.The US didn't "push" Nato and/or EU onto Ukraina (which you apparently refer to as "Russia's ass". The Ukranian people decided that they didn't want to be part of Russia, and their values (you know, the actual people) also moved accordingly over the last 30 years.You might want to study the subject at hand before calling people "trolls".