Post ASJIsyI8jPhOP54N8a by hazlin@squid.kids
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(DIR) Post #ASJIUip6agPxTmvSiG by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-02-03T18:08:21.386794Z
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Wow! Its like meme marketing an trendsetting is terrible for the industry!Its almost like people dont want to put in effort to learn the tools that work and just use the tools that reddit thinks are good!!https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/finance/why-is-there-a-drought-in-the-talent-pool-for-c-developers
(DIR) Post #ASJIsyI8jPhOP54N8a by hazlin@squid.kids
2023-02-03T18:12:43.894473Z
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@theorytoe low college standards, low on the job training, devs often overworked and underpaid compared to other fields... capable labor shortage, seems inevitable.
(DIR) Post #ASJIy426oQdZes021Q by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-02-03T18:13:39.706480Z
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@hazlin@squid.kids honestly yeahI got zero training with my dev joball of my capibilities was from google.
(DIR) Post #ASJJ0w3guxfRnK6oCW by brainworms@cdrom.tokyo
2023-02-03T18:13:56.274338Z
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@theorytoe What I hate is that R*st is actually a really fucking decent language and would have a great chance of growth BUT MEMES FORCE IT DOWN EVERYONES THROATS WHY ARE PEOPLE USING RUST FOR ANYTHING ITS NOT MADE FOR BACKEND OR WEB SHIT STOP
(DIR) Post #ASJJ4vYOjhzdO5NJr6 by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-02-03T18:14:54.192504Z
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@brainworms my thoughts are the sameits actually goodbut theres *so* much cpp code to maintain and by comparison little rust code
(DIR) Post #ASJJWqUh8qYpnrxIuG by hazlin@squid.kids
2023-02-03T18:19:55.288673Z
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@theorytoe one of the more successful people I knew in college, dropped out in the junoir year, because he realized we weren't actually learning anything useful. He made a series of phone apps, and used those as his interview material. Was employed before any of us, and made more than most of us after graduation xD
(DIR) Post #ASJJXmuvvS0n02g4rA by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-02-03T18:19:55Z
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> Where are all the C++ developers?They have jobs already. If you want more, find the very intelligent section of programmers and train them.But companies don't want to pay the price to get intelligent people (and they are too White or Asian anyways) or pay to train them.
(DIR) Post #ASJJvOn5HNcH7eGTsO by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-02-03T18:24:12Z
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Taught myself to program by high school. College was electrical engineering, digital circuits and CPU architecture.I feel EE helped my programming ability far more than a CS degree could.
(DIR) Post #ASJKqsPvnilLVuqJay by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-02-03T18:34:45.817385Z
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@teknomunk @hazlin@squid.kids yeah ive been weighing the benifits of a cs degreeand have been thinking about ee for quite some time now
(DIR) Post #ASJLECEwGb9peYoxDU by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-02-03T18:38:53Z
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Another option that is available at more colleges is a Computer Engineering degree, which is about half-way between EE and CS.
(DIR) Post #ASJLVVzU5SwnpdqmEi by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-02-03T18:42:07.083080Z
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@teknomunk @hazlin@squid.kids Yeah, ive looked into that alsotheres a lot of factors that keep changing my decisionsand I havent even started yet lol
(DIR) Post #ASJLrKa5BlYcofN5zE by hazlin@squid.kids
2023-02-03T18:46:02.154868Z
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@teknomunk @theorytoe I was talking to a graduate from the some college/degree I went to, but 50 years earlier. He was telling me that they've cut all the real theory classes out of the program. That, the interns, seniors, that came to work for him, had no idea how anything actually works, they just know how to push information around to solve the problems they are taught.This seems to be true for the fields I have direct experience in, and probably all of them.Real learning seems to be, from old books, or from a mentor that knows what they are talking about. I'd like to say that online resources, don't fall into these categories, but they do, they are either Table of contents shallow, or the lowest level of implementation detail. (or a blend).As an example, it is like, being introduced generally to the concept of digital logic, and then learning how to perform logic reduction on a simple circuit. The first is too general to implement something useful, and the second is too detailed to design something useful.
(DIR) Post #ASJQXGbikhtOTIOEEa by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-02-03T19:38:20Z
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I see that a lot with the generations that are following me, but it may be a general feature of all younger people that haven't been given the time or freedom to learn what actually works and instead just regurgitating what they were force-fed.> Real learning seems to be, from old books, or from a mentor that knows what they are talking about.Or learning the hard way and reinventing it. That is more or less what "self-taught" actually involves, and why some of the best programmers you will find are self-taught: nobody was there to spoon feed answers and sometimes *NOBODY* has an answer, but they want to get it to work anyways and so they figure it out from scratch.