Post ASCt2r77VprmGiLslk by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #ASCNDl5F4mpYDad1u4 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T09:58:18.325942Z
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The real question is how it would be implemented:1. Technically banned but no one cares, everyone uses a VPN2. 1984 hellscape with secret police looking in your windows and your neighbors writing reports on you
(DIR) Post #ASCRH5gvJTWWok68xc by suqdiq@chaos.social
2023-01-31T10:43:19Z
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@cjd pretty sure porn is already banned in lots of countries yet somehow it doesn't disappear and if you see the web history of the folks enforcing such laws, they also watch porn :D
(DIR) Post #ASCRg2lhJlXizXEIgC by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T10:48:13.436500Z
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UAE comes to mind as an implementation of (1).A more extreme example would be sniffing glue. Nobody should be doing it, at all, there's no excuse for it. But legal efforts to try to prevent people from sniffing glue will only serve to make the world a worse place to live in.
(DIR) Post #ASCl09ZjcKdH1Xw8bA by lain@lain.com
2023-01-31T14:20:33.615892Z
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@cjd that's the issue with the suddenly so traditional alt-right, they don't want to leave you alone either.
(DIR) Post #ASClV4y8nGCdiN6CHo by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T14:30:03.106003Z
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jesus christ it's George W Bush all over againhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/11/usa.uselections2004
(DIR) Post #ASCllDIFbyTIAKCNSy by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T14:32:58.457677Z
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also we have Supreme Court precedents anywayhttps://reason.com/2019/10/04/pornography-is-protected-by-the-first-amendment/
(DIR) Post #ASCm5OyLtmTGBAWAGu by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T14:36:55.117790Z
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@lain @cjd tradcons/reactionaries should not be confused with alt-right, which is revolutionary not trad, (i'm talking about them not you) neither one is going to leave you alone though
(DIR) Post #ASCmspSQDV6CVi9RWy by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T14:45:41.826317Z
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@feld @lain @cjd this is one of those things where a change in the wind could easily flip the left's position in a day. "free speech should not be confused with being held accountable for recklessly ignoring human trafficking and child pornography". may or may not be true but that is currently how they're getting around free speech arguments for everything except pornography.
(DIR) Post #ASCn6tuwQo2UOgCX32 by p@freespeechextremist.com
2023-01-31T14:48:26.279991Z
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@feld @lain @cjd The baffling war on vice wasn't just Bush, it's been almost all of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point
(DIR) Post #ASCn75BIYKevKawFZQ by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T14:48:25.646907Z
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@feld @cjd @lain side note isn't it weird how free speech has literally become a dirty word for tons of left wing people until and only when you're talking about pornography and at that point they can go toe to toe with any libertarian
(DIR) Post #ASCnBUDBQrNY7Uv6uW by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T14:49:12.192864Z
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@cjd @feld @lain not you feld, i have never seen you be inconsistent on any of this and i have seen you pay a price for it.
(DIR) Post #ASCnbR5Lg89Rx8d4aG by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2023-01-31T14:53:55.695312Z
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Yes, Obomber is a great evil. His goal of ending the petrol dollar did come to pass thanks to the puppet admin. Weaponizing federal agencies was his favorite hobby horse. He also changed it so news and tech corps become even more deep state mouth pieces.
(DIR) Post #ASCnlRKLdMXhbCPo2a by lain@lain.com
2023-01-31T14:55:00.337595Z
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@Moon @feld @cjd the new libertarian tactic should be to do all business in the bedroom so the left will agree that government should keep out of it
(DIR) Post #ASCnoFIwn2oHBF690y by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
2023-01-31T14:56:15.285279Z
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@cjd a better solution is to arrest the guys running companies like onlyfans, pornhub etc
(DIR) Post #ASCoX5P6RnYrVNMJZQ by p@freespeechextremist.com
2023-01-31T15:04:22.512747Z
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@thendrix @feld @lain @cjd Not just him, either. It's almost all of them.
(DIR) Post #ASCpTbJtwT5vHqpO9g by Zettour@gearlandia.haus
2023-01-31T15:14:51.993447Z
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@feld @lain @cjd All it takes is for the courts to actually enforce obscenity even slightly and 99% of porn currently sold goes away. The legality of it hinges on "whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." as your article says, and by that standard pretty much none of it should exist. There is the possibility for porn with artistic/literary merit but I can't think of a single filmed example made in decades.
(DIR) Post #ASCqHcx8962ApW20KO by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T15:23:38.853291Z
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free speech was originally a leftist thing and now they're turning on it. it's fucking wild
(DIR) Post #ASCqLnU0w5dYeDOuP2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T15:24:42.012509Z
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@feld @lain @cjd yeah and right wing support for freedom of speech is usually just tactical
(DIR) Post #ASCqcOXSvooOCtvh8y by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T15:27:03.228139Z
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Good thing we don't have the morality and decency standards of the 1960s. Go look at movies, TV shows, pop culture, music, art. You can't argue that most porn is exceptionally obscene and point to what is accepted in society today as the basis for your new standard. :pressf:
(DIR) Post #ASCqx3LiuNZCZRHuBk by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T15:31:10.356933Z
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Like, we literally just had a "grab them by the pussy" president who cheated on his wife with a porn star and tried to pay off her to keep quiet. 50% of the country voted for this man while knowing these facts.How are you going to successfully argue that modern porn is "obscene" when society is OK with this behavior?HELLO????????????? IS THIS THING ON???????? đď¸
(DIR) Post #ASCr4lodyuigVYUkd6 by dhalucario@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-31T15:31:52.668Z
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@feld@bikeshed.party I wish people voted for Deez Nutz instead.
(DIR) Post #ASCrISFDXnqJrXRwmW by Zettour@gearlandia.haus
2023-01-31T15:35:13.922438Z
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@feld @lain @cjd That's not the legal definition as given in your own article. The public opinion only matters when determining if the work appeals to "prurient interest" and is offensive, and it would take an extraordinary amount of lying to say porn does not. If it were not for the prurient interest and offensive nature we'd let children buy it.Yes, a lot of things currently in media would fall under obscenity other than porn if the law was enforced.
(DIR) Post #ASCrlmIy2T4ATdBc1o by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:40:37.094216Z
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@Zettour @feld @lain @cjd the constitution never makes a delineation between offensive speech or inoffensive speech. There shall be **no law**.
(DIR) Post #ASCrsoGZ94D0aRPqoi by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T15:41:52.595936Z
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"Congress shall make no law" does not mention the states. To use the 1st amendment against a state requires leveraging the 14th which is a can of worms.
(DIR) Post #ASCs2W3bhVXb0Zz0CG by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:43:38.563946Z
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@cjd that is true. its supposed to work like that.there's some bullshit reasons it doesn't, mostly to do with bench legislation.@feld @Zettour @lain
(DIR) Post #ASCs2t1yHktmGAOWLA by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T15:43:37.942055Z
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@cjd making pornography more difficult to access is a damn good start. making folks get out the credit card or cryptocurrency to buy a VPN service is a significant barrier to kids randomly stumbling upon some seriously fucked up porn on ordinary, popular web sites as well as teens being able to access it conveniently and secretly.while there will probably always be small groups of the most dedicated coomers sharing porn with one another, loads of folks pay for streaming services cause they're too lazy and technically inept to use a torrent client, the same effect would happen with porn.it's more effective to target the producers and distributors than have a bunch of secret police going 1984 on the consumers. seize the domains and servers of the largest dedicated pornography distributors on day one, give social media sites a chance to have the jannies clean the place up and remove the newly illegal material and ISPs a chance to work out the technical details of blocking foreign porn sites.
(DIR) Post #ASCs3bBk6mrJDDIwgC by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T15:43:40.444495Z
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The states can't make laws that violate the amendments either
(DIR) Post #ASCsDUtCNoqyZVLo1I by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:45:37.582177Z
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@feld @Zettour @lain @cjd they can't, but the amendments are scoped. there are some clauses such as speech written as *congress shall enact no law* and others directly state *shall not be infringed*.a plain reading would lead one to believe some of those things apply to the fed, and others apply to all, though much handwavium has been done by judges to ignore whatever the point of the document was to begin with.
(DIR) Post #ASCsLPkJOEUKw7y8ps by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T15:47:03.384169Z
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14th amendment is construed to apply the limitations of the federal govt to the states as well. But it's interpreted narrowly and weirdly (obviously since blanket interpretation would make 50 little federal governments).
(DIR) Post #ASCsTKSuuHJksMbgOG by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:48:28.987312Z
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@cjd @feld @Zettour @lain i'm aware. i just have zero respect for bench legislators. they're very clearly and obviously doing something they are not allowed to do in a way to amend the constitution without following the rules to do that.
(DIR) Post #ASCsTrBLGdrqLPdc4u by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-31T15:48:14.977915Z
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you didn't have to cowardly delete your post, and edit would have been fine and the thread could have continued in another direction
(DIR) Post #ASCsZq3MNQvMa5kye0 by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T15:49:40.961247Z
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@icedquinn @feld @Zettour @lain @cjd The main problem with the US Constitution is that there's no explicit enforcement mechanism for anything written there. Sure, the US Supreme Court kinda sorta took those powers up on their own in Marbury v. Madison, but there's no constitutional provision granting anyone the power of constitutional review.Frankly, if appointed judges with lifetime terms are making all of the important decisions in government, I don't see that as being materially different than a monarchy.
(DIR) Post #ASCscHVbGkEeJP8A7s by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:50:06.418950Z
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@cjd @Zettour @feld @lain if you try to argue that 'state congress is also congress' then by that means you cannot have any libel, defamation, or regulatory laws on porn whatsoever, because the prohibition is **absolute** and trying to loophole it just makes it worse.what they do is even more retarded: claim something "isn't speech," the very extremis of "depends on what the definition of 'is' is"
(DIR) Post #ASCsdgQI7igNs8JeQi by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
2023-01-31T15:50:22.907816Z
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@caekislove @icedquinn @feld @Zettour @lain @cjd The anti-federalists were right, particularly about the dangers of robenkiken.
(DIR) Post #ASCsgTgZw9VLEkGbKq by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T15:50:52.518091Z
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@icedquinn @feld @Zettour @lain @cjd If, one day, the other two branches said "we're ignoring the SCOTUS from now on", there's literally nothing the SCOTUS could do about it.
(DIR) Post #ASCsgkvNqMRqhaKAGu by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:50:55.127874Z
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@caekislove @feld @Zettour @lain @cjd the enforcement mechanism is the country kills the government with shotguns. that's why the second amendment exists and some of the framers overtly said this.
(DIR) Post #ASCskQmkf917Oq2UTI by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T15:51:35.339232Z
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@icedquinn @feld @Zettour @lain @cjd I think that should have been written in explicitly.
(DIR) Post #ASCsl9HnD5zVPqttxo by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T15:51:41.752069Z
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The 14th is an ugly piece of legislation, there's a valid piece which is related to state laws treating black people same as whites, but then there's this weirdness about corporations being people and federal constitution applying to states which ought to all be repealed.Also a lot of legislative gymnastics is due to FDR threatening to pack the court if they wouldn't find some reason why all of his bad ideas were constitutional. That stuff is slowly SLOWLY being unwound just now.
(DIR) Post #ASCso0Ya7bahDB7JCq by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
2023-01-31T15:52:14.891381Z
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@caekislove @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd They like that robenkiken take politically dangerous problems out of their hands. Otherwise they might actually have to make a decision that could get them voted out.
(DIR) Post #ASCsvAdZ2dOSVCrYcC by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T15:53:32.262930Z
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@RupertvonRipp @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd Absolutely. Elected officials punt to the courts CONSTANTLY. It's like (American) football where every game is decided by the referees and what the players are doing on the field becomes less and less relevant, every season.
(DIR) Post #ASCt2r77VprmGiLslk by RupertvonRipp@poa.st
2023-01-31T15:54:55.857844Z
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@caekislove @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd Oops sorry the robenkiken in Hawaii said we can't do this don't forget to vote and donate!
(DIR) Post #ASCt4pnXNMHolb8Tp2 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:55:15.180886Z
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@cjd @feld @Zettour @lain it's very hard to stop judiciary corruption. rome never figured it out either (senators all excused themselves from taxes. illegal, but since they were the judges they just all agreed not to do their jobs. same way bench legislation works now and non-concepts like standing or qualified immunity.)
(DIR) Post #ASCtAKbGHY5DkH0zWy by AlabasterBrick@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T15:56:10.751688Z
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A military coup would have been a nice 2020 gift for the peasantry.
(DIR) Post #ASCtCqVIdS0TGxQQtc by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T15:56:43.418213Z
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@AlabasterBrick @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd The main thing the January 6th rioters did wrong was go home when Trump told them to.
(DIR) Post #ASCtFvu31AI8t1TOUK by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T15:57:12Z
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I agree that creating barriers to access in general, and harder barriers for under-18s, is a good idea. There is a lot of room between "showing porn in kindergarden" and "anti-porn inquisition" to work within.It doesn't even need to be made illegal. Making age verification a requirement would help a lot. Actual verification, not click-thru "yes I'm 18, wink, wink". Ensuring privacy while preventing access to most minors would be the main issue any technical solution would have.
(DIR) Post #ASCtHGmorKpJwdjIFE by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-01-31T15:57:29.686469Z
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@cjd @Zettour @feld @lain we may have to resort to bizzare things like sortition to prevent court packing and time-limited appointments afterward.some random collection of people become justices for 5 years and then banned from office.
(DIR) Post #ASCtO7gp4xYdl7C0P2 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T15:58:44.176940Z
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Behind that bush hides a "government issued IP address" law...
(DIR) Post #ASCtc0zMn0yx1xUTLM by AlabasterBrick@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T16:00:03.190026Z
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Yep. Having a General Patton type to back them would've been icing on the cake.
(DIR) Post #ASCtwVnxvS4IOevoX2 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-01-31T16:04:58.464925Z
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The Constitution does say that all cases brought under it will go to one supreme court, so there is a provision for it. But the thing with all documents is that theyâre just paper if unenforced. Part of getting to the point where a document does get enforced, however, involves making the general population believe in that document.
(DIR) Post #ASCu0BvHmvOhtO6sb2 by themoodyjooz@poa.st
2023-01-31T16:05:39.425850Z
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@feld @Zettour @lain @cjd women are whores, therefore porn good
(DIR) Post #ASCuLdgjki1S5PX2ZM by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T16:09:30.530268Z
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@NEETzsche @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd Another thing "democracy" has in common with hereditary monarchy. It would be far more efficient to cut out all the bullshit and crown a King and then stick up a sign outside the castle saying "If you don't like it, bring yer guns!", because that's more or less what we have now minus the sign.
(DIR) Post #ASCuarfI4Nm1mI7DNI by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T16:12:16.724206Z
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@NEETzsche @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd (the sign is in our hearts)
(DIR) Post #ASCugNC2HBaD0b3gG0 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T16:13:14.292061Z
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Elected legislature can write a law which says "that thing the SCOTUS said, well we explicitly say it's not like that" - and the SCOTUS *could* challenge it on constitutionality, but then the legislature can threaten to pack the court so they don't really win anything.Conversely, the president can do something but he'll get dragged into court over it (happens constantly these days), and all courts answer to the SCOTUS.So it is a balance.
(DIR) Post #ASCuuSFQHQ0ujuMDEu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T16:15:46.646783Z
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Now there is something worse than a monarchy, that is a money printer which allows wealth to be transparently expropriated from the people to the government and creates such a powerful temptation to corrupt everything in sight.
(DIR) Post #ASCuwkyLdKK7OMT5yi by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-01-31T16:16:12.206220Z
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Well, thatâs the thing. Itâs all cyclical. Youâre only saying you want a King now because so much of the population is irreparably corrupted. America during its founding wanted a republic because the King at the time was a sack of shit and the general population was pretty virtuous.âBro just crown a hereditary line which never has a corrupt or retarded princeâLol, good luck, lmao. Weâre just going to start with this shit all over again.âBro weâll just replace the corrupt king with another non-corrupt kingâThatâs not how it worked out either, in Western history. The monarch in the UK gradually lost direct control. Itâs how we got âdemocracyâ in the first place.
(DIR) Post #ASCv7L9LysuWUSf9Cy by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T16:18:08.534186Z
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@cjd @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @NEETzsche @lain Threatening to pack the court if the SCOTUS rules against them is basically the same as threatening to drop a bomb on the SCOTUS if it rules against them and that doesn't require a fancy document kept in a glass box in a museum.Both rely on the notion that "if the Constitution doesn't say I can't do something than it's fine!". Since the intent of either would be to destroy the institution itself, the means are irrelevant (I'd prefer the bomb, myself).Basically, the SCOTUS are the dictators unless they are overthrown. That's not "checks and balances".
(DIR) Post #ASCvLwM4RxonvyZaAy by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T16:20:46.292171Z
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@NEETzsche @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd You get me wrong. I don't want a king (well, unless it's me, I guess). I'm just pointing out that the current system is mere window dressing around the same kind of shit they allegedly fought a revolution to overthrow.
(DIR) Post #ASCvXOXdzcwgXTRqmu by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T16:22:41Z
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Agreed. There are at least three compeeting interests:- the desire reduce the ill effects of porn on everyone and children in particular,- the desire for people to retain their privacy, and- the government wanting to meddle in people's affairs and spy on everyone using any excuse they can get away with.I suspect there are some clever systems that could be built with certificates that would be effective enough and still private, but keeping the government's grubby hands off the matter would be quite the battle.
(DIR) Post #ASCvfbsUIF3cDW7BRY by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2023-01-31T16:24:19.013777Z
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@Zettour @feld @lain @cjd video games and shit from Japan tbh
(DIR) Post #ASCvg9iOUHBZA3ebQm by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
2023-01-31T16:24:26.765348Z
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@caekislove @icedquinn @feld @Zettour @lain @cjd it's called a Kritarchy
(DIR) Post #ASCvifvZh0QBe71KdM by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-01-31T16:24:52.410975Z
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Thatâs fair, sorry for misunderstanding you. I guess the unfortunate reality is that all these institutions are being treated like obstacles to overcome rather than things that are to be respected. Youâll notice the two âsidesâ in America will bluntly reject the legitimacy of SCOTUS, the presidency, whoever, if they donât get their way. Thatâs not a good sign for the republic.
(DIR) Post #ASCvjWnx64oddorUbw by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T16:24:51Z
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And quite problematic when the easiest but probably least effective way to make porn providers comply is to have the government force them to.
(DIR) Post #ASCw48FPawYHYmWxCi by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T16:28:40.509129Z
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@teknomunk @cjd that would be a decent first step if we couldn't go all the way to banning it entirelyrequiring something like>submit a photo of yourself holding government issued photo ID>pay with a credit or debit card with a name and billing address that matches that ID>this has to be verified by a human employee and then kept on file for as long as the customer maintains their subscription + 1 year>a bunch of regulatory requirements on ID verification, recordkeeping, and cybersecuritywould have an excellent chilling effect on both consumption and the number of sites willing to go through all that work and expense just to be allowed to distribute porn. especially the sort of high-value targets like social media sites where SFW and NSFW user generated content coexist.similar measures could be taken on the production side from an anti human trafficking angle. want to produce or distribute smut? better be able to show authorities the signed and notarized consent forms from every actor involved or it's big time fines + criminal charges if someone turns out to be underage or a victim of human trafficking.
(DIR) Post #ASCwKkS7JkisgSOe0W by Nudhul@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T16:31:46.315663Z
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@Zettour @feld @lain @cjd a serbian story offers scathing critique of the porn industry iirc
(DIR) Post #ASCwQgh4CpLAlODmOu by voronesh234@poa.st
2023-01-31T16:32:51.328329Z
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@skylar @teknomunk @cjd israel did something similar to this, but only for fellow jews of course, not for goyim.
(DIR) Post #ASCwZkocFbJG9Y4kC0 by hazlin@squid.kids
2023-01-31T16:34:28.268728Z
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@skylar @teknomunk @cjd I think the obvious issue to this discussion is, porn is a weapon of cultural changing being used by those in power. Against children in particular. The only possible outcome is, more gov intrusion and control, but also, children can still consume porn. Predictability at school sitting in the lap of a drag queen.
(DIR) Post #ASCxBAW3euy6ZpEgMa by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T16:41:09.844983Z
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@voronesh234 @teknomunk @cjd ha, they're stuck with Der Ewige Conservative too
(DIR) Post #ASCxBkJYYsMJbTfCsK by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T16:41:18.284735Z
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I think what this comes down to is "you can't legislate morality". Morality exists within a person, and it is costly to build up. You can't write a law that says people are now moral anymore than you can write a law which says that people are now wealthy. Trying to do so will not work and will have bad unintended consequences.I like to think of porn like alcohol. A little bit is not inherently damaging but too much is, Children should not have access to it, and a healthy society is one where people can have it but mostly choose not to.
(DIR) Post #ASCxUs9zcDPRRGJJcu by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-01-31T16:44:47.021504Z
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You can also use it to silently expropriate wealth from people to other people via pork spending. Wealth redistribution is very realistic with fiat currencies.
(DIR) Post #ASCxYpmmNx0fEVLFb6 by dj@rojogato.com
2023-01-31T16:45:29.135226Z
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@NEETzsche @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @caekislove @lain @cjd
(DIR) Post #ASCxbVPoZvH4vLsFqi by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-01-31T16:45:59.198202Z
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I mean, when you think on it for half a second, that is kind of the founding principle of the United States.
(DIR) Post #ASCxlFQOsyd4E4nFcO by nolasco@iddqd.social
2023-01-31T16:47:46.562099Z
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i think we can all agree on the general sentiment (unless like the other poster said, that king was them)
(DIR) Post #ASCxmDrmAKB5gM3xcO by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T16:47:50Z
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I agree with your reading on how things should be. Looking around it is clear that we are not there. I just don't know how we get from where things are now, to a mostly moral society, but if things continue withoug changing something, I expect it to get worse, not better. Individual effort is certainly needed, but I have doubts that alone will be enough to stand against the collective.
(DIR) Post #ASCxqLrcNCA7dzxRui by Zettour@gearlandia.haus
2023-01-31T16:48:41.567737Z
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@nolasco @feld @icedquinn @caekislove @NEETzsche @lain @cjd @dj Kings are great, we just need to make it legal to assassinate the bad ones.
(DIR) Post #ASCxqODJdUhsvs7o0m by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T16:48:41.491056Z
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@nolasco @NEETzsche @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd @dj Trust me, I'd be a kickass King.You all have my royal permission to overthrow my heir if he sucks.
(DIR) Post #ASCxu53ena34gEMpFY by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T16:49:20.389345Z
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Destroy the money printer, everything will work itself out.
(DIR) Post #ASCxwtQ0WxJZRwA8FE by lain@lain.com
2023-01-31T16:49:00.222588Z
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@Zettour @feld @icedquinn @caekislove @NEETzsche @nolasco @cjd @dj mandate of heaven my dudes
(DIR) Post #ASCy6URgEbButQWMxU by Bloomfer@coolsite.win
2023-01-31T16:51:36.772119Z
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just use the printer at home
(DIR) Post #ASCyFwDQM5yjcuMG5w by xianc78@gameliberty.club
2023-01-31T16:53:17Z
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@bot @teknomunk @cjd @skylar ANYTHING can be used as a currency. Gold, silver, eggs, crypto, bottle caps, seeds. You don't need fiat.
(DIR) Post #ASCyU3ezTOwGlmz82i by voronesh234@poa.st
2023-01-31T16:55:52.508244Z
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@skylar @teknomunk @cjd Russia has some half-worked methods, for example. It's like they can allow webcam studios to exist, but large scale porn industry like "brazzers" is not allowed. And if they make profit more than 500000 rubles (7000 $), they will be heavily taxed after it, which will effectively kill all desire to do it in mass scale. More details in Article 242 of criminal code of Russia.
(DIR) Post #ASCyUFuJwEKckoFXbU by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2023-01-31T16:55:46Z
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@NEETzsche @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @caekislove @lain @cjd Man, I agree so much.It's not funny how many people have no idea, that our currency was created for the purpose of allowing silent wealth redistribution.The smarter guys can laugh about it, but noone can say outloud, that we are sucking the entire economy dry just so few pigs can spend it on some million dollar social study about homosexuality of roasters.
(DIR) Post #ASCyWYNIFRsgbmtgTg by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T16:56:13Z
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That's awfully vague. I mean, I understand that most of the corruption of society has been bankrolled by freshly printed money, but so many portions of society have been made dependent on that money printer continuing to print money that removing it* is likely to kill society in the power vacuum that occurs. Which I suspect is also by design.I wish there was a way to fix society without that massive shock to things, but I fear we are decades past the point that was possible.* The money printer will collapse at some time in the (not so distant) future, which I suspect will have much the same result as purposefully removing it would.
(DIR) Post #ASCyfyC9cNyPIMB2C8 by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T16:57:54Z
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The issue is that not all these have the same utility as money and society is not setup to handle multiple mediums of exchange.
(DIR) Post #ASCykCweigqWCRws3E by monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st
2023-01-31T16:58:47.495940Z
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@caekislove @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @NEETzsche @lain @cjd @dj Gay
(DIR) Post #ASCyliLhRj8bt3NgUy by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-01-31T16:59:03.125512Z
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@monsterislandcolonizer @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @NEETzsche @lain @cjd @dj Off with this one's head!!
(DIR) Post #ASCyrXljhBSqoLL4hU by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T17:00:04.064436Z
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There's a reason why I'm saying this. Money looks like it doesn't matter in the grand scheme, but it REALLY does. Debasement of money destroys whole nations.
(DIR) Post #ASCz01SRCIZFCoM5eC by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T17:01:36.274229Z
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The world will settle on Bitcoin, it might take a world war or two but it will happen.
(DIR) Post #ASCz8eIgfHehzUuME4 by JeffTheJoker@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T17:02:16.254600Z
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That's because the same jew who sent the first group of assholes after us, gradually infiltrated and took over everything by (((bitchcraft))) and sent a new group of assholes to take their place.đ
(DIR) Post #ASCz8vG7c4hkaSq35U by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T17:03:12.473174Z
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Short it :P
(DIR) Post #ASCzA8JEZul3Lps5qq by monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st
2023-01-31T17:03:28.618729Z
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@caekislove @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @NEETzsche @lain @cjd @dj You give permission to overthrow your heir and you may as well overthrow him yourself
(DIR) Post #ASCzIMseHq7SrMMZrE by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T17:04:50.355010Z
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@cjd @teknomunk repairing the damage to a morally corrupted society isn't going to be easy, and there's bound to be some mistakes and discomfort along the way, but we can't just throw our hands up and do nothing.a lot of libertarians have their hearts in the right place, but focus too much on individuals freedoms and ignore subtle, long-term harm to society as a whole. by fighting for the individual's right to consume pornography, they're trampling the rights of countless thousands of kids and teens to grow up with a healthy understanding of sexuality, of girls not to be exploited by sleazebag pornographers, and of families to not be torn apart by pornography addiction.
(DIR) Post #ASD1Gb2arqn06fIWRs by happypirate@poa.st
2023-01-31T17:27:03.329004Z
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@skylar @cjd >it's more effective to target the producers and distributors than have a bunch of secret police going 1984 on the consumers.Yes, and people who claim to care about trafficking should really focus on the producers and not consumers. Encourage normies to get off the internet, shut down OnlyFans and the like as well as prostitution sites like Seeking Arrangements, target trafficking rings and mass commercial pornography production. None of these things are going to happen under the present system because the system encourages these by design.
(DIR) Post #ASD1VZAq5imoeyID8i by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T17:29:38Z
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Yes. I simultaneously think certain crypto is good (mitcoin+lightning, monero), precious metals are good (gold, silver, copper) and want to see community currencies be deployed.For any non-government currency, forgery is a massive issue in no small partbecause if it is susceptible to forgery, .gov will forge it to destroy competition, then if that doesnct work they will bring counterfeiting charges against the creators (i.e. the liberty dollar).
(DIR) Post #ASD1Z3pOZnZSbIveLI by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T17:30:18.133943Z
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@cjd @teknomunk @bot things won't look good for bitcoin (or any other digital currency or payment processing) after a world war, or even a regional china/taiwan thing.supply chain issues from COVID still haven't been resolved, and companies will be catching up on delayed maintenance/equipment replacement for years to come. throwing more wrenches into the semiconductor supply leads to a future where half the businesses in town have a "sorry, credit card machine is down, cash only" sign taped to the door when nobody can replace infrastructure faster than it fails.
(DIR) Post #ASD1pwa0mINH2mmeDw by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T17:27:00.710257Z
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bitcoin is a value store - it's not a good general currency.
(DIR) Post #ASD1qZYbrRQTvjQZxA by Eiregoat@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T17:33:10.949309Z
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I think a more useful approach would be:1. Actually explain why it's bad. The only thing I got as a teenager was "it's bad because it means you don't respect women," which I could tell was bullshit because it was coming from the same people trying to tell me all men are rapists.2. Limit childrens' access to the internet and TV. These should not be things they just wander around on like they're going fishing down at the pond or walking around the woods.
(DIR) Post #ASD1r7BOqF3wDapWUq by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T17:33:32Z
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I find that the largest issue with thr current set of cryptocurrencies is the dependencies on cheap, plentiful and reliable electricity, and a globally-routable, always-on internet. Lose one or both of those, and crypto is basically dead (can't function on technical grounds). War, and especially world war, makes both much more likely to be an issue.
(DIR) Post #ASD2bg33XqnFfk87o8 by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T17:36:11.965561Z
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I don't think the elites really control as much as they'd like us to believe - Idk if they continue to let it exist because they can't shut it down, or because they are using it as some sort of trap.
(DIR) Post #ASD2jaQ2MIKEWueOem by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T17:43:23Z
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That is true when you include "I may want some of this in the future" and "I think this is good, want it to succeed and want to put my mo ey where my mouth is" under the banner of "speculation.> government can just decide whether you can by or sell something to kill it at willI see that has worked so well for other illegal things, like alcohol in the '20s, drugs and such.Government is powerful, but it is not God. People get a say in how things happen (and I don't mean just voting). In recent history, some of the more powerful drivers for crypto adoption have been resistence to runaway inflation amd bypassing capital controls. Do you see either of those in our short-medium term future?
(DIR) Post #ASD2mep6RLGp3fq66a by Darb@chudbuds.lol
2023-01-31T17:44:03.327793Z
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They are already working on seizing your crypto. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cointelegraph.com/news/what-the-launch-of-the-fbi-crypto-task-force-means-for-the-digital-asset-space/amp
(DIR) Post #ASD2trNa9fr81lOvlg by Mithril_Noble@squid.kids
2023-01-31T17:45:19.644954Z
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@skylar @teknomunk @cjd @bot Bitchcoin. Well, Proof of Stake is gonna take up more share in the ecosytem then.
(DIR) Post #ASD2wZHLuOhAl5mKNk by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T17:45:47.511726Z
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> cheap, plentiful and reliable electricityEven a world war is not going to mean electricity is unreliable everywhere in the entire world. Even if Texas is the only place with reliable electricity, they're going to continue mining.> globally-routable, always-on internetDitto, knocking out the Whole Entire Internet in every country in the whole world, even for an hour, it essentially impossible. It's really not expensive for a mining operation to setup a starlink or a hughesnet dish to supplement their network.Bitcoin is a lot more resilient than you would think. Biggest threat is something which wipes out all electronic devices on earth. But that's putting humanity back in the stone age so no kind of money will have value.
(DIR) Post #ASD34ZuVRcjH29ubGy by DrBtc@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T17:43:28.225577Z
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Bitcoin will be tied in some way to all fiat even if only vaguely. You don't need to do on chain or even 2nd layer for this to happen. The method of transactions for day to day isn't that important. Having people know the number in their bank account is actually tied to something real will be important.
(DIR) Post #ASD3HV32pkV1ib4EHw by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T17:49:35.194706Z
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Re globally-routable, always-on internetMy project: https://pkt.cash is related to trying to make this more robust.What WILL 100% happen is crypto will be unavailable to people in certain countries. Because these people are effectively slaves, only allowed to use the king's currency "to buy a loaf of bread if it pleases his majesty".
(DIR) Post #ASD46hJQzjXqWZ98Uq by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T17:58:50.001978Z
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Something else which is totally unusable for buying drugs/alcohol (or really anything). But unlike BTC, it's ridiculously expensive to transport and incredibly difficult to validate whether it's been debased.
(DIR) Post #ASD4LloaXLQopeuCjA by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T18:01:30Z
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> pkt.cashI'll look into this in more detail before I make a decision on it. Regardless, I wpuld prefer more ISPs than fewer.
(DIR) Post #ASD4R6I5pr73mjFQX2 by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T17:59:43.276974Z
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perhaps the bitcoin network has so much inherent value that nations are competing to dominate it rather than destroy it.
(DIR) Post #ASD4gEt49m1yn1lCO8 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T18:05:15.662230Z
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It will supplant gold as central bank reserves because it just has better properties. They're already accumulating...https://coinmarketcap.com/headlines/news/bis-now-allows-banks-to-hold-2-of-reserves-in-crypto/
(DIR) Post #ASD4wQpZWBnMSvqaKe by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T18:08:07.611543Z
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@cjd @teknomunk @bot there's a lot of gray area between a perfectly functional globally-routable, always-on internet and total internet failure.when your ISP is calling distributor after distributor trying to find switches or transceivers or cards for the CMTS/DSLAM and nobody can give an estimate of when they'll be restocked, that's gonna be a problem. best case scenario they've got a large inventory of equipment that some dork with a MBA hasn't discovered and demanded to liquidate in the name of this quarter's profit. otherwise they'll have to look at finding equipment from a different manufacturer, which is a real challenge when you have thousands of techs trained in your current system. is an adtran router really that different from a cisco? not at all, but managing them at scale is the challenge.meanwhile, everyone you want to make a transaction with is also struggling to find hardware.>sorry, the payment processor we use for crypto is having an outage>sorry, the credit card machine is broken and our vendor won't have a replacement for 3 weeks>sorry, the e-commerce platform we use is having intermittent connectivity problems>sorry, our server broke last week so we're taking orders by hand and only accepting cash
(DIR) Post #ASD4wfIRjdD7KXSqHY by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T18:08:12.838331Z
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And central banks ain't accumulating dogecoin to defend their currencies with đ
(DIR) Post #ASD54N5tINBdC1GZ4i by Mithril_Noble@squid.kids
2023-01-31T18:09:39.012160Z
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@skylar @teknomunk @cjd Just make your own society. Use baseball bats liberally.
(DIR) Post #ASD56Snd3Np3T1ioeu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T18:10:00.220719Z
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In that regard, banking system is way more fragile than the bitcoin chain. And "we're only accepting cash" works for about 2 weeks with ATMs out of order before that collapses too...
(DIR) Post #ASD5aPBZ3RlswjC8e0 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T18:15:24.833915Z
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I'm not trying to defend someone's "right to watch porn", what I'm getting at is deeper. When you try to impose righteousness and virtue by fiat you don't get the great society, you get sharia law.Good character, like wealth, cannot be made by legislation.
(DIR) Post #ASD5b3m88umupibuC0 by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T18:15:28Z
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If there is a world war, communications satellites and undersea cables will be targeted for destruction. I don't know if other radio communications are avaialble (i believe the distances are far too large for microwave links) or if they would be available for civilian use.If Asia and Europe can't communicate with each other or America for a few months, how will the resulting blocmchain forks be handled?
(DIR) Post #ASD5djqog5AduK4zXk by Mithril_Noble@squid.kids
2023-01-31T18:16:00.424274Z
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@cjd @teknomunk @skylar Yeah it can, if you kill enough criminals, you stop having crime.
(DIR) Post #ASD5eRSYXduP9p4Eq0 by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T18:12:15.569962Z
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feds going to shut down them servers though!
(DIR) Post #ASD5h7HzzU69T9P9Qe by WashedOutGundamPilot@poa.st
2023-01-31T18:16:39.553400Z
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@teknomunk @skylar @cjd @bot
(DIR) Post #ASD6gN3RzRAM1roA2y by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T18:27:36.609779Z
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@cjd @teknomunk @bot yeah the banking system is pretty vulnerable to disruption in network connectivity too, but in the china/taiwan semiconductor shortage scenario, the damage will slowly build up over time, convincing folks to start carrying and using more cash from frustration over random places being intermittently unable to accept cards.with crypto there's just no way to process any transactions offline
(DIR) Post #ASD7hGbzWuVsI4xIhc by DasSauerkraut@squid.kids
2023-01-31T18:39:05.442798Z
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@skylar @cjd Even just getting porn sites themselves back behind hard credit card paywalls would get most kids well the fuck away from it all.Though I agree blocking shutting the producers down wholesale would result in less mental damage for younger generations. Don't know how you'd go about prosecuting the foreign (pissraeli) company MindGeek though.
(DIR) Post #ASD89MAETpNHcRMjHk by Saber@squid.kids
2023-01-31T18:44:09.409268Z
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@DasSauerkraut @skylar @cjd easy, just stop sending Iron Dome reloads
(DIR) Post #ASD8Da6ObHyu0PaMgC by DasSauerkraut@squid.kids
2023-01-31T18:44:55.850894Z
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@Saber @cjd @skylar That's like saying stop letting DC plutocrats breath.
(DIR) Post #ASD8b1rRYlxil5lxEu by goatmeal@shitposter.club
2023-01-31T18:49:11.125879Z
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@bot @teknomunk @_skycaptain @cjd @skylar what brand of soap was it?
(DIR) Post #ASD9in30cU3L5PRlE8 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T19:01:44.857956Z
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World war doesn't work that way.Never mind the fact that Elon Musk has like 6000 fucking satellites up there already and taking down satellites is Really Difficult, not to mention you have a very short time window before your launch pads are gone.But even if it weren't for Starlink, war is never truly total. There was no time during WW2 when Hitler couldn't send a telegraph to Churchill or FDR, nobody wants to wipe out the communications platforms because when you can no longer communicate with the enemy, they can no longer surrender.BTW this is also why nobody kills enemy leaders. Once the leader is dead, surrender is impossible and the enemy army will fight to the last man.War is made out to be a mindless projection of violence, but in reality it is a tit-for-tat back and forth where seeing and hearing the enemy's reaction is as important, if not more important, than the strike. Communication is the premier capability in war.In a world war scenario, internet will be temporarily out on battlefields, but it will be quickly restored because life cannot continue until it is. Outside of battlefields, things will continue as they did in Switzerland in WW2, in an uneasy tension but seemingly entirely normal.Bitcoin is going to be big.
(DIR) Post #ASDETYGhmkh4g1PFHU by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-01-31T19:54:56.771044Z
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@cjd @teknomunk @bot intentional targeting of civilian communications infrastructure isn't all that likely, but that doesn't mean it'll survive. take out just a few enemy spy satellites and now there's a ton of extra trash floating around up there, traveling at incredible high speeds that'll disintegrate anything it hits.unlike in 1945, the global economy is now frighteningly centralized and most manufacturing capacity is located in places likely to be in conflict zones. there's just no way to maintain modern communications infrastructure without a functioning global supply chain.
(DIR) Post #ASDEeKvDkQ14T7V2Aq by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T19:56:58.545142Z
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A fight between CN and TW is pretty unlikely at this point though, more likely CN will end up tangling with IN.
(DIR) Post #ASDFoFKBVsqnxVSv0i by Zealist@poa.st
2023-01-31T20:10:00.457798Z
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@WashedOutGundamPilot @teknomunk @skylar @cjd @bot
(DIR) Post #ASDJcN7d61diU4Bbyy by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-31T20:52:38.512287Z
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Ethereum, because it takes a billion gigabytes of storage for all the smart contract shit. Bitcoin can run on a ras pi.
(DIR) Post #ASDN1MH9gClCxeFQQa by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T20:54:25.707684Z
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That's counter to my understanding that they use custom hardware to mine more efficiently. Anyway, I put a couple thousand into btc when it was going up - bummed when the price dropped, but was not planning to convert back to USD anyway. Certainly it's designed to be unstoppable, but who knows.
(DIR) Post #ASDNbOY4hrhMR3LTxQ by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T21:31:55.825135Z
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oh no. Want to buy some btc??
(DIR) Post #ASDOcyLzAaINj60UOu by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T21:48:41Z
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Deliberatly targeting civilian infrastructure, probably not. Targeting civilian infractructure repurposed for military use after the military-dedicated stuff gets blown up? Far more likely.Also, Kessler syndrome is going to suck. How many sattelites will get blown up before orbits are uninhabitable?
(DIR) Post #ASDOysVVaSoRxsuGmW by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T21:52:34Z
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But regardless of how likely a split is to occur, I've seen no information on how a fork that is not an attempted double-spend attack would be handled without erasing one of the two divergent histories, which would make lots of people quite angry. I should probably go looking again.
(DIR) Post #ASDP7RShVh4sgwg1cu by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-01-31T21:54:13Z
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> gambling is sinfulSo you don't own stocks, either directly or indirectly as part of a retirement account, right? That's at least as much gambling as buying crypto is.
(DIR) Post #ASDRFmbF0KB0TSmCZs by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T21:59:20.635918Z
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greed, which might lead on to gamble, is a sin. Speculating that you understand something well enough to foresee future value is not really gambling.
(DIR) Post #ASDRkumecs4upkxZJo by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-31T22:23:07.179983Z
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most stocks trade way above what the company is "worth" unless you consider the value of the stock itself as an asset, which is to say, it's a speculative investment. But I've never traded btc - I've only purchased it.
(DIR) Post #ASDbiJ4YraWIpxjMY4 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-02-01T00:15:21.480702Z
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> Stonks are traded on the company's valuehehe
(DIR) Post #ASDuKbQKsfCbvoKHL6 by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-02-01T03:43:58.669Z
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@cjd@pkteerium.xyz Destroy the money printer, everything will work itself out.It would be a rough transition but I think it would actually resolve a lot of systemic mismanagement and waste in ways never thought possible.I don't consider being unable to fund wasteful wars on behalf of global oligarchs a downside however, so it seems very much like a win-win all around.
(DIR) Post #ASECe3b49l2rzAlsky by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2023-02-01T07:09:12.631138Z
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@caekislove >The main problem with the US Constitution is that there's no explicit enforcement mechanism for anything written thereThat's not a problem. That's the point of the constitution. To keep the feds weak and maintain state sovereignty. We've been post- constitutional since at least the 1860s@feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd
(DIR) Post #ASEnZxEdZ1ZROuBfjE by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-02-01T14:03:04.813159Z
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@Leyonhjelm @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd When I said "enforcement", I meant enforcement of the "Congress shall not" parts. If state sovereignty should reign supreme over federal government, perhaps they should have some sort of veto besides starting a civil war. The US Constitution provides none.
(DIR) Post #ASEngX0vS51s6WuU08 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-02-01T14:04:15.082767Z
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It provided state govt nominated senators, but that was since changed (imo bad idea).
(DIR) Post #ASEnjO4FAfqzE4p8FM by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-02-01T14:04:47.208440Z
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@caekislove @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd @Leyonhjelm The enforcement mechanism is basically starting a civil war. I'm pretty sure the founders basically advocated for that sort of behavior actually.
(DIR) Post #ASEnspitiWyBbZLMKe by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2023-02-01T14:06:23.192140Z
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@caekislove Without teeth, the enforcement mechanism is the States telling them to fuck off and stay in their corner.@feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain @cjd
(DIR) Post #ASEnwXvFqFW3YUtTWa by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2023-02-01T14:07:08.279772Z
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@cjd That and women's suffrage basically ruined what was left of the intended system of government.@feld @icedquinn @Zettour @caekislove @lain
(DIR) Post #ASEoleN7ceB4KKISn2 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-02-01T14:16:22.792525Z
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The idea of vote-per-household is interesting, but taking votes away from women would be highly unpopular. I think a more realistic target would be to take voting away from non-landowners.OR: Just make prisons really comfortable so that most people who are not serious about their civic duty commit a felony at some point for the free housing and lose voting rights as a result.
(DIR) Post #ASEpDTCojPtpntk5ia by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2023-02-01T14:21:10.560005Z
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@cjd Not bowing to popularity is part of the point of not having women's suffrage or a popularly elected senate. The constitution was very specifically intended to limit democratic sway over policy because the people are retards.@feld @icedquinn @Zettour @caekislove @lain
(DIR) Post #ASEpVERmLJ3vF8D5Oa by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-02-01T14:24:38.662658Z
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@cjd @Leyonhjelm @feld @icedquinn @Zettour @lain Sweeping reforms are impossible within the framework of the current system, anyways. A system imposed at the end of a gun following a war doesn't need to be "popular", it only needs to endure long enough to become the status quo. (Washington didn't ask the Loyalists nicely if they consented to being governed)
(DIR) Post #ASEphNXUMe36utfmL2 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-02-01T14:26:48.831025Z
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This is why I like thinking of ways to achieve a better (more long term happieness for the average person) system via incrementalism and power-amplification.
(DIR) Post #ASEpuEEaGrUTp3xR1U by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2023-02-01T14:29:06.965090Z
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@cjd That argument is basically the core philosophy of communist revolution, but it always ends in either intentional mass murder or theoretically unintentional mass starvation.For some reason this is always how it goes when people think the government is the solution to problems.@feld @icedquinn @Zettour @caekislove @lain
(DIR) Post #ASEq8C6MzpTxGMm6S0 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-02-01T14:31:39.502806Z
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Same techniques (because they work), different objectives - I would like government to be as small as possible, just big enough to keep anyone else from governing me.
(DIR) Post #ASEqFdKUA9gvjdvNxI by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2023-02-01T14:32:46.078327Z
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@cjd you have more faith in government than I do if you think that'd ever work@feld @icedquinn @Zettour @caekislove @lain