Post AS9nFDQxAffVlhG9Hk by PvtProperty@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AS9ghknm0HlhgdauBc by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T02:52:31.383745Z
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Abortion is immoral aside from the case of rape.If you're willing to have sex you're willing to raise a child.
(DIR) Post #AS9mzXjnuhCa6gbTii by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:02:57Z
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@PvtProperty Why is it immoral?
(DIR) Post #AS9n3m5UVGE1lolUtk by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:03:44.006634Z
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@average_random_joe taking a life needlessly is wrong
(DIR) Post #AS9n87sjPmRqWQs7Um by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:04:31Z
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@PvtProperty Why?
(DIR) Post #AS9nDXn0WBVyJymIDo by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:05:29Z
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@PvtProperty In other words, when is it needful to take a life?
(DIR) Post #AS9nFDQxAffVlhG9Hk by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:05:48.046224Z
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@average_random_joe The Bible said so that's why
(DIR) Post #AS9nfbwOg0u3IyYMQi by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:10:34Z
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@PvtProperty What is the need in cases of rape?
(DIR) Post #AS9nkx1Tiods8aTanw by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:11:32.120487Z
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@average_random_joe A rape baby is a transgression upon the mother
(DIR) Post #AS9npU6qeGu1uc9Lge by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T04:12:21.452501Z
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@PvtProperty @average_random_joe They have 3 days to take plan b after the rape. No excuse
(DIR) Post #AS9nsZRLHnmjJUCueG by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:12:54Z
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@PvtProperty Rape was the transaction, why does the baby need to die for the sins of another?
(DIR) Post #AS9o2pToVNf5xKFrnc by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:14:46.052359Z
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@average_random_joe I just told you
(DIR) Post #AS9o3ahExHKQOZtkki by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:14:54Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Sure. So they don’t need a rape clause. That plan B can be used for any case. I personally prefer the heat beat since it keeps consistency with life. That gives around 6 weeks. I just never really understood the rape escape clause.
(DIR) Post #AS9o8Xf3fQzsQiEqTQ by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:15:44Z
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@PvtProperty The baby did what? I didn’t see you mention that.
(DIR) Post #AS9o8h10tAuHRPa0Rc by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T04:15:48.989980Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty The heartbeat is murder too
(DIR) Post #AS9oBqZpnNcrxsN4IC by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:16:23.797417Z
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@average_random_joe The baby is transgressing upon the mother.
(DIR) Post #AS9oC28yn3H5q3tn6G by Shadowbroker2135@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:16:25.797136Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty Because the genetics of a rapist don't need to live on.
(DIR) Post #AS9oCWOGKnKDe9HQ5Q by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:16:31Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Yes, once there is a heartbeat it is. That’s what I said.
(DIR) Post #AS9oFJA3yZlDUCy1TM by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T04:17:01.470943Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty But when the egg is fertilized, new dna is created . It’s a new being
(DIR) Post #AS9oJtbsP2kxgiAFFo by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:17:50Z
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@PvtProperty How did the baby transgress? I mean I believe it is alive but I was unaware of them committing transgressions. What was the crime the baby committed?
(DIR) Post #AS9oQNYZySyqItiHvU by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:19:01.400971Z
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@average_random_joe The baby is an unwanted continuation of a family line you did not choose to continue. It is a foreign nature being kept inside her body
(DIR) Post #AS9odZlHuLBfvBwzIm by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:21:24Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Sure. But we don’t determine alive by there being unique DNA. The separate DNA argument works that the baby isn’t the same life as the mother, it isn’t her body to choose for. But I find it less compelling for the line of life starting. We use heartbeat as a metric for life all the time, in fact almost all the time. Why not define it at the beginning too.
(DIR) Post #AS9ofBytIJUEkL5GO8 by gucciloafers@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:19:51.732782Z
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@PvtProperty What about miscegenation or serious birth defects like downs.
(DIR) Post #AS9ofCXHESzaSzAizA by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:21:41.402317Z
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@gucciloafers If the miscegenation was by choice then tough shit honey. I think care facilities should exist to take care of the mentally retarded. I'm in favor of negative eugenics if its sterilization. I just don't think its moral to murder people unless they actually commit a crime against you.
(DIR) Post #AS9ovkPz1gn0BTeO3s by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:24:41Z
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@PvtProperty So at what point does that unwanted family line get to be killed? What is the time limit and why? 20 weeks? 9 months? Post birth? Before becoming an adult? Before they have a child? Or do the grandkids get to be aborted?Foreign nature? Voluntary abortion isn’t really in line with nature by definition. Rape doesn’t exist in nature because there is no consent. Nature also rarely has monogamy. Appeal to nature isn’t helpful.
(DIR) Post #AS9p4kwuQAgGRBLYqu by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:26:19.257817Z
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@average_random_joe The rapist should be killed if caught yes if thats what you're asking. And I already answered you're question. You abort it if its a rape baby. You're really overcomplicating this whole thing. If they choose to keep it then by all means thats their choice.
(DIR) Post #AS9pMA7A6t0NPRRU8W by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T04:29:28Z
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@PvtProperty No, I agree convicted rapists get executed as well as false rape claims. What is the need to kill a baby that did nothing?And if it is a need, why do they get to keep it? I think it is making an exception that makes it complicated because one would have to violate the virtue they point to for all other abortion to do so.
(DIR) Post #AS9pXeqqAibLvII1BY by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:31:32.532654Z
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@average_random_joe Holly shit I keep telling you and you keep not listening. The need is that its not your family line. You did not choose to reproduce with that person. The baby's existence is a transgression against the mother
(DIR) Post #AS9pe1j22W3cbSfrM0 by SuperSnekFriend@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:32:41.600806Z
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@PvtProperty Why do you stop at rape? The Bible is absolutely clear: You do not punish the child for the sins of the father, see Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20This alone makes punishing the child for the biological father raping an act of Moloch worship and one of the most heinous sins you can commit. The only appropriate punishment for rape is death of the rapist and that is it.
(DIR) Post #AS9peF7GFkAA8N6tQO by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:32:44.042414Z
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@average_random_joe Its a transgression in the same sense that a tribe you're at war with is transgressing against you.
(DIR) Post #AS9ps2tMUzfIH9BsbQ by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:35:13.683369Z
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@SuperSnekFriend But you're not punishing them for the sins of the father. The existence of the baby itself is a transgression. The father wouldn't even have to exist. If someone artificially inseminated you against your will the same logic would apply
(DIR) Post #AS9qDmxCR9h1DPLyjY by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:39:09.498423Z
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@SuperSnekFriend Its a transgression for the same reason that someone squatting on your land can be removed. The reason its wrong to abort in the vast vast majority of circumstances is that you did choose to have that baby. It would be equivalent to killing a man after inviting him into your house.
(DIR) Post #AS9qVXOt0FRMBolcbg by glacierglider1@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:42:21.980456Z
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@nice-nigger @PvtProperty no more rape babies nigbot
(DIR) Post #AS9r6ivt5aQefew1Ym by SuperSnekFriend@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:49:05.101699Z
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@PvtProperty >The existence of the baby itself is a transgressionNo! Children are a gift of God and are never considered a curse (Psalm 127:3) You are never to consider them curses either. The child of rape is both a test of God on us to judge if we ourselves are obedient to His Word and His mercifulness, and the child is an act of grace to give something good out of a horrible evil.>If someone artificially inseminated you against your will the same logic would applyThat is absolutely correct, and neither the Lord nor I have misgivings about that. You also do not kill the child in act of Moloch worship because of sins of a doctor or doctors, and nurses. A doctor who has forcefully artificially inseminated a woman is both a rapist and a sorcerer, so he too must die in a just Christian society like the bestial, natural rapist. I have never heard of a forced artificial insemination occurring, probably because of the cost, difficulty, and expertise needed to accomplish it, so thankfully nobody has suffered for it.
(DIR) Post #AS9rqMkNuGlRBVJnX6 by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T04:57:20.020147Z
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@SuperSnekFriend God obviously has had cases where children are not seen as a blessing and like I said this notion that the child is being punished for the sins of the father is wrong for the reasoning I explained in my reply to my post.
(DIR) Post #AS9s7IXEou8j2nF7om by PapaPole@bae.st
2023-01-30T05:00:23.799381Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty @average_random_joe its the womans fault for being in a vulnerable position without a proper chaperone
(DIR) Post #AS9sDIwGETBw27oMT2 by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T05:01:28.895572Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty Ok but what does God say?
(DIR) Post #AS9sRqFv9nHBQ0wHhY by SuperSnekFriend@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:04:06.383426Z
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@PvtProperty >God obviously has had cases where children are not seen as a blessing No, the normative is that infant children are always a blessing. The opposite is obvious in Scriptures; and if the child of rape is not seen as a blessing, then that is purely our fault which we will be and are being punished for and must repent of, not God's fault.You are calling the child a transgressor for something the child did not do and cannot do on his power, will, and nature, so yes you are saying it's right to punish the child for the rapist's sin. This is not right to say at all.
(DIR) Post #AS9sVStLxvuo7B6wGO by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:04:45.761964Z
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@SuperSnekFriend Do you want me to give examples where God has decided children need to die?
(DIR) Post #AS9shzILJkzS5Olqwy by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T05:07:01Z
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@PvtProperty The baby existing is a transgression by the baby? I would love the Bible quote on that. So at what point does that right to murder get revoked? When does that condition stop being? See I did listen, I asked this another way and that was somehow complicated?
(DIR) Post #AS9sqI7VD5K4muey3M by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:08:31.609799Z
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@average_random_joe I'll just post my reply to another person since it addresses your point.Its a transgression for the same reason that someone squatting on your land can be removed. The reason its wrong to abort in the vast vast majority of circumstances is that you did choose to have that baby. It would be equivalent to killing a man after inviting him into your house which is obviously wrong.
(DIR) Post #AS9t6akPikZZC4dIvY by SuperSnekFriend@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:11:28.209221Z
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@PvtProperty I am well aware of the destruction of the Canaanites and Amalekites when I made my other posts. Those are exceptions that prove the rule. You, I, anyone calling for the sacrifice of the rape child to Moloch, and everyone else are not given that same authority today the Israelites were given during the arrival into Canaan or during the early Monarchy.
(DIR) Post #AS9tH1ohvtRY2kcMwi by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:13:21.516557Z
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@SuperSnekFriend Okay so you've acknowledged that there are cases where children are not always a blessing. Now that we've established that, do you understand my explanation as to why it would not be a punishment conferred onto the baby for the sake of the father.
(DIR) Post #AS9uKRyXETJBzmPUNU by SuperSnekFriend@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:25:10.737357Z
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@PvtProperty Now that I think about it. What I should have said, is that no where in those two commandments is God calling infant children not a blessing with their removal. You are adding that to God's word. The adults are the abominators and those whom God was disgusted by. He was commanding the taking away of that blessing from the Canaanites and Amalekites who both were killing those children anyways. And if you know your history of the Canaanites and their descendants like the Phoenicians, you would know that there would have been no infant children when the Israelite armies would arrive. Again, you do not have the authority to call the child of rape a transgressor or to kill him at any stage for that transgression.>do you understand my explanationWe have established nothing. I have understood your explanation all this time. I know it is wrong, I am disgusted by it, and I am very disappointed that you of all people on the Fediverse hold to such a view.
(DIR) Post #AS9uXVSdaJ56ZPiS7E by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:27:32.424385Z
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@SuperSnekFriend Alright so now we go to the plagues that ravaged Egypt
(DIR) Post #AS9ugDFWfDS4h7jbeK by MeBigbrain@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:29:06.849574Z
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@Shadowbroker2135 @average_random_joe @PvtProperty There is almost certainly a rapist in every genetic line alive today.
(DIR) Post #AS9uiwupqfucuBMU08 by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:29:36.553676Z
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@MeBigbrain @Shadowbroker2135 @average_random_joe Doesn't bridge the is-ought gap
(DIR) Post #AS9vTytaIzY2ejCetU by udongle@mugicha.club
2023-01-30T05:38:06.566200Z
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calling @SuperLutheran we need a pastor's input here.
(DIR) Post #AS9vi1ra4IThujxrCC by gucciloafers@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:39:04.665023Z
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@PvtProperty You'd go as far as to force dumb young girls propagandized into thinking niggers are cool or pressured into that by being told they're racist if they won't let Shitavious hit to have mulatto kids?
(DIR) Post #AS9vi2Ou4P8Ja5YT8S by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T05:40:38.674157Z
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@gucciloafers Yeah. Young people fuck up their lives all the time and still have to live with the consequences. Thats just life man. I screwed up because of propaganda. I don't expect people to bend over backwards to have sympathy for me.
(DIR) Post #ASAJLlK3HeaT8vCGga by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T10:05:32Z
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@PvtProperty What are you talking about? You had better have killed the person feeling an immediate threat to your own life or you would be a murderer. The virtue of life suddenly diminished quickly in this conversation.
(DIR) Post #ASAJZyhaKrt0h1z0BE by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T10:08:06Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Good question, what does he say about the movement of life beginning? Does the Bible mention sperm, eggs, DNA, or heartbeats?
(DIR) Post #ASAK7dQNx1BeY2zEcS by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T10:14:11Z
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@PvtProperty The squatter made a choice to do so, even if you accept that the squatter deserves to die for making an error. But your analogy would say under no threat to you or your property, a man suddenly appears on you property, teleported without any power on his own deserves to die. Transgression takes will to act. The baby did nothing to transgress. Existing isn’t a transgression ever. For one acting like there is sanctity of life, you don’t act like it have much value.
(DIR) Post #ASANjVUuAi3UpTqpgu by SuperLutheran@poa.st
2023-01-30T10:54:39.355417Z
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@udongle @PvtProperty @SuperSnekFriend Extermination of certain caananite tribes is not a justification for aborting children in any circumstance, let alone rape babies. That's getting prescription out of description, and extrapolating permission to do something out of commands that God made to the Israelites 3400 years ago. It would be akin to me saying I can steal liquor in Southern states because Lincoln ordered Sherman's march. Different time period, different justification, different people entirely only tangentially related to me, etc.
(DIR) Post #ASAO7bB2hrsNOW349Q by CatLord@poa.st
2023-01-30T10:59:00.590719Z
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@PvtProperty What if it's got some horrible disease that you can detect in the womb?
(DIR) Post #ASAOoidqpSAazv5Jey by wylieschwein@chudbuds.lol
2023-01-30T11:06:47.888864Z
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(DIR) Post #ASAW50TsyCaMdb8Z7I by Shadowbroker2135@poa.st
2023-01-30T12:28:10.936235Z
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@MeBigbrain @average_random_joe @PvtProperty True, but going forward we can start correcting that
(DIR) Post #ASAdlhEB825L3W5qOe by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T13:54:05.959446Z
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@average_random_joe People dont have to willingly transgress on you in order to transgress on you. Their choice has no part in the equation
(DIR) Post #ASAeX4KR3dCiJQboPI by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T14:02:52.976296Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty All we know from the bible is that God formed us and knew us before we were bornJeremiah 1:5 ESV / 6,027 helpful votes “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”Isaiah 49:5 ESV / 2,109 helpful votes And now the Lord says, he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him— for I am honored in the eyes of the Lord, and my God has become my strength—Job 31:15 ESV / 1,455 helpful votes Did not he who made me in the womb make him? And did not one fashion us in the womb?Psalm 139:13 ESV / 1,218 helpful votes For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
(DIR) Post #ASAfhH5gYyYok98kTo by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T14:15:56.567040Z
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@CatLord I think public care facilities should exist for the extremely disabled
(DIR) Post #ASAh2E92oK7zdtGYF6 by Robert_Edwardly@poa.st
2023-01-30T14:30:56.146210Z
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@PvtProperty @CatLord That's why we marry them typically
(DIR) Post #ASAhR2VZDFzqn7dFsO by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T14:35:25.154825Z
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@Robert_Edwardly @CatLord Lmao
(DIR) Post #ASAixBh4hEReV6uMgy by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T14:52:25Z
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@PvtProperty That's kinda how agency works, if a person doesn't act against something then they can't transgress. This is fundamental to western Christian doctrine.If you are in danger like conscripts against you, you are defending your life. Self preservation I have stated is really the only acceptable reason to kill. How can something that can't act have invaded?Your argument is pro-abortion. She has the choice because it causes emotional harm?
(DIR) Post #ASAjDvxGSy9mbuSx2O by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T14:55:27.645734Z
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@average_random_joe No she has the choice because its her being forced to keep the intruder alive. It would be akin to someone breaking into upur house and then youre arguing that we should be forced to let the intruder live with us and then feed him and take care of him while we're at it
(DIR) Post #ASAjIYkQB3Pi5BfFMe by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T14:56:17Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Knew you before he was formed means he existed prior to forming, ie conception. That isn't life. That is pre-life, or pre-mortal life. That points to our existence prior to this.Formed from the womb is just saying since you were in the womb, not at which point life started.Again, formed us in the womb. Yes, he also formed the Earth. At which point did life start? Knitted together just means the parts came together but not what moment it was alive.
(DIR) Post #ASAjdGFe8pj8nZ8ney by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T15:00:02.339522Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty The whole point is that God knew and formed you before you became physical. And then when you finally became physical, you are killed by the mother
(DIR) Post #ASAjfswpEwWXOOaZSC by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:00:30Z
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@PvtProperty The baby didn't break in though. The analogy has someone kidnap someone, they break into your house and toss their victim into your house. Into a safe room with a 9 month time release door. You can open the door from the outside but it kills the victim. In your mind, the victim is worthy of death simply due to the actions of another. That doesn't seem Christlike even a little. What happened to love they neighbor as thyself?
(DIR) Post #ASAjxTq9KQR8jcr916 by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:03:41.438519Z
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@average_random_joe That baby isnt your neighbor its an invader. You dont have to choose to be an invader to be an invader. This is going nowhere so Ill just leave it at that.
(DIR) Post #ASAjxeOu44B7UJC2Zk by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:03:43Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Yes but when did YOU become physical. Since you existed in a non-physical state, there is a point when you were one and then another. Nothing in the bible states when that is. Same thing on the other side. When I die, will I still be physical? Will my dead body be me? Or will a non-physical state exist in say a spirit form? There is a physical body with my DNA but it wouldn't be alive, would it? It isn't REALLY me anymore, is it?
(DIR) Post #ASAkBaoID7rSPFiW6S by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T15:06:14.655670Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty >Yes but when did YOU become physical. >Since you existed in a non-physical state, >there is a point when you were one and >then another. Nothing in the bible states >when that is.True but new DNA is physical right?> When I die, will I still be physical? Will my > dead body be me? When you die, your body is dead and your spirit goes to Heaven or Hell. Your body will come back as physical after Christ returns as described in Revelation
(DIR) Post #ASAkI9Fz3HFWyhnMdE by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:07:25Z
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@PvtProperty When the Jew asked Jesus who is my neighbor, do you remember which parable he shared? Samaritans and Jews were tribal enemies. You can't be an invader unless you invaded. That requires action of some kind. You exactly have to choose to be. That's how agency and will works. That's how we are judged. So you think the kidnapp victim deserves death, that you would be justified in killing them? That if you were kidnapped, you would accept and think totally fair to be killed?
(DIR) Post #ASAkRwxZctmnjfrFLc by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:09:11.696533Z
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@average_random_joe The baby is performing an action. Stealing resources from a mother.
(DIR) Post #ASAkcMvnv6DFBFzxHE by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:11:04Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty True, so when is that moment on the other end? For what it is worth, I hear your argument. The heartbeat just makes a more compelling argument. That's how we measure life on one end of the line (technically brain but that is rarely measured - heart beat/pulse is a totally acceptable proxy) why not accept it as the other end of the same line?Gives the woman time to decide, it is a logical point in time since we already defined life, and easily measured.
(DIR) Post #ASAkjATicOUYaM6U5Y by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:12:18.597900Z
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@average_random_joe Amd yes I do to amswer your question
(DIR) Post #ASAksuSB3M93mU1mXg by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:14:04Z
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@PvtProperty So is the kidnapp victim you are avoiding.Are those resources putting the child at risk?The non-rape babies are stealing those same resources.It is always fascinating to me when those that proport to be pro-life argue the exact talking points as pro-abortion but for one sliver but they won't define why that sliver is different.
(DIR) Post #ASAky0ZBkhW0BjjqLI by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:14:59.555486Z
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@average_random_joe The non raoe babies arent stealing something because she chose for them to be there by the act of having sex
(DIR) Post #ASAkzPfvsrbULqYxQu by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T15:15:14.872775Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty >For what it is worth, I hear your argument. >The heartbeat just makes a more >compelling argument. Isn't this just worldly thinking that we are supposed to break free from? Are we to be like the Jews and their Talmud?> Gives the woman time to decide, it is a > logical point in time since we already > defined life, and easily measured.or the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”[c]20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
(DIR) Post #ASAl3LKPzJNI1mNDm4 by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:15:57.386640Z
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@average_random_joe Boom I just defined the difference. You're welcome.
(DIR) Post #ASAlIRRBYYwVJojqGu by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:18:40Z
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@PvtProperty So you don't love your neighbor, interesting. So your pro-life Christian values are all pretend just like the Pharisees. Fascinating. So at what point would it NOT be ok for the child to take resources? Where is the acceptable line to kill that "invader"? As long as it hasn't left the birth canal? Partial birth abortion is ok? Until they are 18? Yes, I remember you avoided that question as well. Probably because you know the answer condemns as much as this one did.
(DIR) Post #ASAlRiUxUgcEq1vTU0 by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:20:21.304217Z
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@average_random_joe If you decided not to abort it then you chose to keep it. To go back on your choice would be immoral for the same reason its wrong to betray a promise you made
(DIR) Post #ASAlXxNv3jvwkGbojw by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:21:29Z
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@PvtProperty So you are saying the actions to place the baby happened prior to the baby existing shouldn't condemn the baby? Why?It is still an invader. It had no more or less agency in being placed there.If I invite you to my house, I can also decide you are no longer welcome and if you don't you are invading.It is interesting how a baby should die for the actions of their father but not of their mother. Why the difference in choices?
(DIR) Post #ASAlaoE7Z6GZD8NzXc by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:22:00.306247Z
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@average_random_joe No you cant because you invited me
(DIR) Post #ASAlpNE0EviboGH9E0 by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:24:38Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Why is it worldly? Paul reasoned with the Greeks as a Greek. Almost everything he wrote, a large portion of the NT is convincing. Luke was a gentile writing to convince gentiles. What is wrong with the argument? God is silent in the book from 2000 years ago. He wouldn't have been talking about science. He was talking about people talking about his word, the rabbis if you will. Besides, I asked God. Did you?
(DIR) Post #ASAlvLp0MzAFCAQvGi by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:25:42Z
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@PvtProperty One the baby is doing something and the other the baby has no choice? Why? What is the difference? What harm is done to the mother?
(DIR) Post #ASAm1iMHUXtEpT23pw by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:26:52.010944Z
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@average_random_joe Stealing resources. Jesus youre retarded
(DIR) Post #ASAmHRmYtBEw3JpJfE by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:29:42Z
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@PvtProperty When is that line? If it is alive at conception, when is that choice done for the mother? This is why I always cringed when Christians used this line of reasoning, it is A line but the least compelling. Life is life, and you don't get to kill it because it makes you uncomfortable, because you find the life inconvenient. Self preservation, self defense is really the only reason to kill. Having murder in your heart DOES make you a murderer though. lol
(DIR) Post #ASAmOS7U25qn7sx9Wq by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:30:58.576946Z
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@average_random_joe You get to kill it when its trespassing and stealing from you
(DIR) Post #ASAmRNzHqvR3BAWB1M by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:31:30Z
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@PvtProperty So if you invite friends over, you can't ever ask them to leave? That's not how civilization has worked in a long time if ever. Invite your neighbors for dinner and feed them until they are willing to leave be it in 3 hours or 3 years? Seems like an absurd way to have relations.
(DIR) Post #ASAmV5ZMGzMBDM9iXQ by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:32:10.542959Z
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@average_random_joe
(DIR) Post #ASAmhEYKhMxKYET1yy by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:34:22Z
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@PvtProperty Stealing? They aren't stealing. There must be intent to steal. Do you think the baby has intent to steal? More than any other? You place will and agency on a baby, that is the retarded stance. Again, we aren't going anywhere, you would kill an innocent victim of kidnapping and pretend you follow Christ or something. When exactly isn't the child stealing resources? Until 18?Using the Lord's name in vain, interesting.
(DIR) Post #ASAmlC6VkEs07BLHlo by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:35:05.034557Z
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@average_random_joe No there does not have to be intent to steal thats ridiculous
(DIR) Post #ASAmp8XYw7UODjsKoK by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:35:47.965478Z
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@average_random_joe
(DIR) Post #ASAmtFUX2Ba6wBQ0zQ by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-01-30T15:36:32.657666Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty You are using human arguments and logic to justify your worldly thinking. That’s the problem. Isn’t life more than what the world can put in words and logic? Doesn’t spiritually defy all human wisdom? Paul wrote about that too.
(DIR) Post #ASAmvmQ1aAGLdfW8GG by Rasterman@detroitriotcity.com
2023-01-30T15:37:00.123487Z
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@Shadowbroker2135 @average_random_joe @PvtProperty Sounds like a form of eugenics. I like that line of thinking. :thinkhappy :
(DIR) Post #ASAmzUyMOAOEglLniC by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:37:40Z
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@PvtProperty When is it not? At 18 years old?So you are driving and a car T-bones you into my house. You are stealing my house as I no longer have it and you took it and trespassing. I came and shot you, you think that is acceptable. Do children steal from their parents eating a meal? If a parent withholds food until they die, is that good or bad? Abandoning the child in the woods, good or bad?
(DIR) Post #ASAn6E8jN3SYVgPTGq by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:38:53Z
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@PvtProperty Pro-lifers. What a joke. All hypocrites and liars. They don't care about life, they are just made girls aren't banging them, the good creepy incel guys.
(DIR) Post #ASAnCHSXwR82XjZ5ii by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:39:58.901255Z
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@average_random_joe Alright fuck off somewhere else bitch
(DIR) Post #ASAnGmDzV0GL7NtuGe by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:40:47Z
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@PvtProperty That's actually how it works both in the world and with Jesus. In fact, having intent without doing it is committing the sin. The intent is the whole point. "Forgive them, for they know not what they do"
(DIR) Post #ASAnHGWSqsrh5Mm5E8 by Fash-E@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:40:52.857886Z
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@PvtProperty @average_random_joe lmfao was that a bot
(DIR) Post #ASAnYnY9JL5aRMvHGa by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:44:03.077582Z
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@average_random_joe So a woman preserving the integrity of her body and her own dignity is less important to you than letting a foreign invader live? You are a coward who has probably let his people down every opportunity he has gotten
(DIR) Post #ASAnZU7145w2RfYiRc by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:44:10Z
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@verita84 @PvtProperty Sure, that is a worldly way but is there a godly way? I know all those passages and they don't tell us when. In fact, pointing to passages and trying to reason through those would be logic and reasoning to get there still.Paul the Pharisee, who interpreted the words of God, put away childish things once he found God. The Godly way would be to ask him. I have. That was the answer. Doesn't mean God can't let you reason with the answer as well, right?
(DIR) Post #ASAnjXZb3HyM4iipzE by CatLord@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:45:59.588551Z
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@PvtProperty @average_random_joe He had a reasonable critique initially. Shame that devolved... I respect autistic pro-lifers even though I'm not one at all.
(DIR) Post #ASAnwSuBibNrMXW5my by average_random_joe@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-30T15:48:19Z
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@PvtProperty Well, sure. Because the baby isn't an invader. They are the victim just as much. What about the integrity of an innocent child? If you thinking me a coward makes you feel better about your pathetic life, by all means. You are a murderer so why would I care, just projecting your loser status.
(DIR) Post #ASAo3ji3deenVWJGzo by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T15:49:38.265182Z
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@average_random_joe Is it safe to say youre a fan of niggers sir?
(DIR) Post #ASAu4ak93n2liI4rC4 by Alex1488@poa.st
2023-01-30T16:57:01.763245Z
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@average_random_joe @PvtProperty I'm pro-abortion.For non-whites.
(DIR) Post #ASAuARJR2KMmCZN9SS by PvtProperty@poa.st
2023-01-30T16:58:05.031877Z
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@Alex1488 @average_random_joe I'm not but I am pro sterilization for nonwhites who remain within the borders of a white country
(DIR) Post #ASAuFnerNqlyx9wwwi by Alex1488@poa.st
2023-01-30T16:59:03.329165Z
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@PvtProperty @average_random_joe I'm alright with a compromise.