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(DIR) Post #AS6e9B9lF8NBuFNum8 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T15:38:48Z
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"Cistercian Numbers" are incredibly coolIt's a rare numeric system designed by 13th century monksEach number is a based on a single vertical stick, with patterns you draw in all four quadrants off it -- top right, top left, bottom right, bottom leftA single glyph can represent a number from 1 to 9,999It's in my recent weekly "Linkfest" newsletter, here: https://buttondown.email/clivethompson/archive/linkfest-3-cisterian-numbers-robots-that-hug-and/Want to subscribe? Pay-what-you-want here: https://buttondown.email/clivethompsonI call it "The opposite of doomscrolling'
(DIR) Post #AS6eQS1dmHFN9Cp3JI by Judeet88@home.social
2023-01-28T15:40:30Z
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@clive It kind of reminds me a bit of Pitman's shorthand...
(DIR) Post #AS6eWuAg2s9GB47uvg by guncelawits@mastodon.social
2023-01-28T15:42:12Z
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@clive Tangential: I teach this to every nine-year old I get near: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_binary
(DIR) Post #AS6fFDigj2ZbY2AMoy by isaaccp@kolektiva.social
2023-01-28T15:51:09Z
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@clive Interesting. It looks like the source of inspiration for the glyphs they used in the videogame Tunic last year.
(DIR) Post #AS6fcY2tJvvDFQjv4C by maxeddy@infosec.exchange
2023-01-28T15:55:19Z
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@clive big Riven energy
(DIR) Post #AS6fjWRHgy7YIBTV44 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T15:55:23Z
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@Judeet88 Yes!My sister, who's 8 years older than me, learned Pitman when was training in "secretarial sciences" at Ryerson college in Toronto back in the early 80sShe still knows it today
(DIR) Post #AS6fqROGrRcAf4MeQa by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T15:55:37Z
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@guncelawits Ahhh very cool!
(DIR) Post #AS6fzdzXNc6mLiBSeO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T15:55:57Z
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@isaaccp Oh right on!It made me think of runes you'd see on crashed UFOs, yeah
(DIR) Post #AS6g5LFhxrn1y5SrMe by brianstorms@mastodon.social
2023-01-28T15:58:00Z
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@clive In college I created a similar-looking runic alphabet to take notes in class. It soon got sophisticated as I not only had symbols for a-z and 0-9, but I created symbols for common word endings like -ing and other single symbols for letter combos like “st” and “br” etc. I supose it was a kind of shorthand but man did it work. I could take notes in class and keep right up with the teacher. Filled notebooks with this stuff. Other students would give me “wtf” looks when they saw my notes lol!
(DIR) Post #AS6gDfPosmTaosADlQ by Judeet88@home.social
2023-01-28T16:00:26Z
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@clive I deeply regret not keeping up with mine...I used to be really good and could even use it for taking down French! I mostly used it in lectures and was secretary at a university sit-in as I could also touchtype really fast and accurately (well before computers!).
(DIR) Post #AS6gMiu1HqyCEzblDs by gallaugher@mastodon.world
2023-01-28T16:02:59Z
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Makers of obscure clocks, Clive offers up ideas for your next project. Cistercian Numbers give off a serious mystical, elvish vibe. Like a clock Gandalf would have in his den.
(DIR) Post #AS6hzWB6d6gS1af8vw by tymwol@bayes.club
2023-01-28T16:21:54Z
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@clive
(DIR) Post #AS6jSNdZYzU5t6IurQ by cyhwuhx@mstdn.social
2023-01-28T16:38:24Z
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@clive I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the Miller brothers used this as their inspiration for the D'Ni alphabet/numerals in Riven/Myst.
(DIR) Post #AS6jcN2oceTWwdsJe4 by eleanor@cityofchicago.live
2023-01-28T16:39:40Z
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@clive Wow how do the Jesuits catch all the conspiracy theories when the Trappists have their own *math!*
(DIR) Post #AS6jwwN6zBIEIoB1nM by Alby@mastodon.social
2023-01-28T16:43:53Z
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@clive Something very dissatisfying about all the 6s for me.
(DIR) Post #AS6p0lcRPDZ1slzVUu by stef193@mastodon.uno
2023-01-28T17:40:32Z
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@clive very interesting👍
(DIR) Post #AS6yi4SY8GMyM35WTo by deborahh@mstdn.ca
2023-01-28T19:28:41Z
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⬆️ @clive Cistertian numbers?oddly compelling! 👍Up next: a dyslexic-friendly version(Where left and right are not perfect mirror images, and the whole thing is visually weighted so it doesn't 'spin'? ;-> )
(DIR) Post #AS72rPZHQ6w2FDwga0 by vegetablegremlin@jorts.horse
2023-01-28T20:15:45Z
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@clive how do they represent beyond that
(DIR) Post #AS73jjuK0yyOxnh2yO by ellane@pkm.social
2023-01-28T20:25:33Z
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@clive That is up with the COOLEST darn things I’ve ever seen!! Code nerd from waaaay back. I’ve been writing in QuikScript (a derivative of George Bernard Shaw’s Shavian) for 40 years, and I’m stoked to *finally* have a number system to add to that. Incredible!I agree with the commenter who suggested a weighted version for people with dyslexia. It’s a great idea, and won’t be hard to do.
(DIR) Post #AS77gkbnLpNc5OrFdQ by Extelec@mstdn.social
2023-01-28T21:09:23Z
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@clive https://extkits.co.uk/product/cypher-of-the-monks-clock/
(DIR) Post #AS77nVscVgniQux6X2 by PizzaDemon@mastodon.online
2023-01-28T21:11:02Z
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@clive that last line means the Predator's bomb is about to go off
(DIR) Post #AS77z3EepsGl4JlIeG by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:13:10Z
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@Extelec !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(DIR) Post #AS78bVE3DWJasnoTgW by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:15:52Z
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@ellane Ooooo that's awesome!!You will dig this, which @Extelec just showed me: https://extkits.co.uk/product/cypher-of-the-monks-clock/
(DIR) Post #AS78gzCjBVHLJ9oDpI by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:16:52Z
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@deborahh Yes, totally
(DIR) Post #AS78x6xk6hTU0GUNIu by rob_fulwell@techhub.social
2023-01-28T16:43:59Z
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@guncelawits @clive check out the origin of sexagesimal (counting to 60 on the hands):https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexagesimal
(DIR) Post #AS78x7TIDOiBa7FZTs by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:17:31Z
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@rob_fulwell @guncelawits aha, very cool!
(DIR) Post #AS792aueBH1KL7ehgO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:18:01Z
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@eleanor Those jesuits were crafty
(DIR) Post #AS79DOz4s4fOWsshbk by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:18:41Z
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@cyhwuhx Neither would IThose guys were erudite and did their research
(DIR) Post #AS79Nkk2pe6guAmlJA by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:19:12Z
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@Judeet88 It's still incredibly useful
(DIR) Post #AS79d8k1sqwdgO7DjU by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:19:53Z
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@maxeddy Very much so
(DIR) Post #AS79mzS5HCdTlfQ15c by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:18:11Z
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@tymwol lololol
(DIR) Post #AS79uImdnhFBkbWKWW by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:16:39Z
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@vegetablegremlin Not sure! Maybe they don't? Maybe they didn't really need to think often in numbers beyond that?
(DIR) Post #AS7A0Pt8IYdFWUTMlE by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:17:49Z
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@Alby yeah, that does sort of dominate, that part of the glyphs, doesn't it
(DIR) Post #AS7A7a5YluODBbhYm0 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:19:45Z
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@brianstorms That is incredibly cool!I knew a few other nerds who created their own custom shorthand systems -- they looked rad
(DIR) Post #AS7AMG4dT8M9SGGffk by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T21:17:09Z
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@stef193 🤘 🤖
(DIR) Post #AS7AXsrnZtUexEo6GO by Drkiki@mastodon.social
2023-01-28T21:25:45Z
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@clive this is fascinating. So, 1111 would look like a capital I in a serif font.
(DIR) Post #AS7AkledhiieLnnNBI by homelessjun@mas.to
2023-01-28T21:44:06Z
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@clive A Runic numeric system? C00l!!!
(DIR) Post #AS7BHqAlvUUpv6aysS by macdarabutler@mastodon.ie
2023-01-28T21:50:09Z
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@clive Those monks must have had a lot of time in their hands coming up with this stuff 🤣
(DIR) Post #AS7Bh9bcoNFTQkE544 by Tbeauchamp@techhub.social
2023-01-28T21:54:27Z
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@clive This is the coolest thing I have seen so far in 2023.
(DIR) Post #AS7E3vUrdOtwEz3AvI by hansup@mastodon.social
2023-01-28T22:21:15Z
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@clive oh, interesting system! But no zero? Nothing did not exist in their world?
(DIR) Post #AS7FTh5VveAH2H2lwu by chexum@hachyderm.io
2023-01-28T22:21:12Z
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@clive @isaaccp I’ve heard Korean is a modern logical writing as well. It’s interesting how easy writing letters and numbers could have been if we were able to invent new ones. I wonder how negative numbers would be shown. I would have preferred the four locations in an (anti)clockwise way. Also, grouping by four digits is not helping SI prefixes.
(DIR) Post #AS7FThjvVOUV3bx2wK by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:37:09Z
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@chexum @isaaccp I am ignorant of how Korean works -- would love to learn more
(DIR) Post #AS7FqHXx3aleTt7Fdw by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:41:13Z
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@hansup Good question! Possibly not. In the medieval period, most Christian thinkers were still quite unsettled by zero -- and its related mathematical concept, infinity -- since the concepts of nothingness and infinity seemed to impinge, dangerously, on God's terrainIt's why medieval math boomed in Islamic and indian areas, but not in christian onesSo they may have been avoiding zeroNice short essay on it https://cambriamathtutors.com/zero-christianity/@cgseife's book "Zero" is a *fab* exploration of this
(DIR) Post #AS7FxEkbqlz9pxLwi8 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:42:15Z
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@macdarabutler lol yes
(DIR) Post #AS7G92mMBeKCBLng3s by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:42:30Z
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@homelessjun yesss
(DIR) Post #AS7GJyZi9p46KT69Ts by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:43:30Z
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@Drkiki Yes!!
(DIR) Post #AS7GfZHEtYtqEvko5Y by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:42:08Z
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@Tbeauchamp Woo!
(DIR) Post #AS7GlQonG2Qbk7FEHo by resing@social.coop
2023-01-28T22:45:44Z
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@clive the 1993 example is pretty amazing.
(DIR) Post #AS7GlqC2uismRTJeV6 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-28T22:43:49Z
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@PizzaDemon RUN
(DIR) Post #AS7HJKn2B3zatMaVNI by chexum@hachyderm.io
2023-01-28T22:50:14Z
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@isaaccp @clive I only remember seeing it mentioned somewhere, but for a writing system invented in the 1400s, where a character represents a whole syllable, it’s supposed to be very easy to learn:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul
(DIR) Post #AS7N1V6PhEYNO8X27E by cynblogger@sfba.social
2023-01-29T00:01:11Z
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@clive You May like what they (Cistercians) did to music, too.
(DIR) Post #AS7OiSOTk6LjOU1qAi by Tedgarrison3@mstdn.social
2023-01-29T00:20:40Z
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@clive Very neat. And you only have to learn what each quadrant represents, and 10 figures.. so pretty simple.
(DIR) Post #AS7P0BcepvhKai7BLs by swansinflight@mastodon.nz
2023-01-29T00:23:50Z
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@clive that is freakn cool :blobcockatiel:
(DIR) Post #AS7QYpKlnRjNYPpVMu by ElsaStarTrewyn@tech.lgbt
2023-01-29T00:40:31Z
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@clive That's a lot of Unicode glyphs for that one...
(DIR) Post #AS7QZnsAiO6HJNv1lI by mdm@mcnamarii.town
2023-01-29T00:40:09Z
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@clive Basically a 10k bit number system (if I'm understanding that correctly). Very interesting.
(DIR) Post #AS7QjYdCEmbMw8Z6um by mdm@mcnamarii.town
2023-01-29T00:42:44Z
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@clive @vegetablegremlin The same way we do with only 10 digits -- you would just start a new number right next to it, on the left. :)
(DIR) Post #AS7RYPSE7IHhFAgN3w by miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social
2023-01-29T00:52:30Z
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@clive I love this. 👍I in advertently recreated many of these glyph designs (for a story) in nearly/exactly the same arrangements! Don't think I've seen these before but the system I used in the story was partially based on Runes and "Oghams"(?) as well as sundial shadows and clock hands. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #AS7UYAoQr2FLhAeE8O by ellane@pkm.social
2023-01-29T01:25:35Z
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@clive @Extelec Aaaaaahhhh geek-bliss overload!! Super cool. I wants one. Sitting in church today looking at the hymn numbers on the board and being totally distracted mentally transcribing them into the Monk's cypher…
(DIR) Post #AS7UwVhWqILVQk1WNM by jkirk@hachyderm.io
2023-01-29T01:30:20Z
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@clive this is sooo cool. Saving this.
(DIR) Post #AS7e59gWxyMpLHknMe by Victang@defcon.social
2023-01-29T03:13:00Z
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@clive Cool. I need to create a charset for these 👍
(DIR) Post #AS7rHIA8ZVMYVviflg by Jasonact@mastodon.social
2023-01-29T05:40:44Z
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@clive I may have to start using this in daily life. Pretty mine-blowing.
(DIR) Post #AS81dhq6mjdA3ug5L6 by MarcFramboisier@mastodon.gougere.fr
2023-01-29T07:36:50Z
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@clive is there a way or an extension for zero ?
(DIR) Post #AS81nC5LhXCWTSKYjI by MikeHar94962844@mastodon.me.uk
2023-01-29T07:38:34Z
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@clive Fascinating.
(DIR) Post #AS85xbxsjhDhS03pVA by dikkii@aus.social
2023-01-29T08:25:14Z
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@clive I'm hugely interested in where this would've gone if they'd got their head around tens of thousands.
(DIR) Post #AS871UJNEV3KpJWf0C by maxthyme@artisan.chat
2023-01-29T08:37:09Z
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@clive They were very interesting to me, missus was diagnosed with dyslexia back in the day and always loved roman numerals so I was fascinated by the idea and ended up making what I called courtney's numerals.
(DIR) Post #AS88AsgS5RMgyaMaSO by enby_of_the_apocalypse@kolektiva.social
2023-01-29T08:49:42Z
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@clive that’s so cool!!
(DIR) Post #AS88WJ6b2xLv0EoDa4 by cyrilpedia@qoto.org
2023-01-29T08:53:57Z
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@clive cc @lmrocha
(DIR) Post #AS8DhWPIQoSHDHir7g by annecoombes@tech.lgbt
2023-01-29T09:52:00Z
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@clive Interesting that it has the idea of units, tens, hundreds, thousands and zero but I am not sure that it makes arithmetic any easier than using Latin numerals.
(DIR) Post #AS8EJxCxEbWHL5H9EG by gruik@piaille.fr
2023-01-29T09:58:56Z
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@clive omg it's Tunic language
(DIR) Post #AS8GGskrXCEGZFnaQS by ArneBab@rollenspiel.social
2023-01-29T10:20:24Z
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@clive That looks very close to runes 🙂 "Are these runes you’re drawing?""No, I’m just giving the robot the index of the API-function to run".
(DIR) Post #AS8H5xXvToeoCF6TS4 by geomannie@mastodon.scot
2023-01-29T10:30:02Z
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@clive A great way for writing down your various PIN's so that they are illegible to (most) prying eyes.
(DIR) Post #AS8LYFoXYMIEmKccaW by scotdowser@mastodon.scot
2023-01-29T11:19:57Z
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@clive Super cool! I've never heard of those. I'm struck by the obvious similarities of some of them to Norse runes - also to mason's marks. I wonder if there are any of the latter encoding dates of construction in Gothic cathedrals? 🤔
(DIR) Post #AS8N2iVdWucWPsryYy by geoffhackworth@iosdev.space
2023-01-29T11:36:40Z
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@clive There’s a Numberphile video about this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p55Qgt7Ciw
(DIR) Post #AS8N97RRkE9vTqxjeK by rburghol@mastodon.social
2023-01-29T11:37:51Z
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@clive we use numbers to represent images they made images to represent numbers, now I want a Cistercian Compression algorithm!
(DIR) Post #AS8NLi1ZYaWEPlrbFY by benfulton@fosstodon.org
2023-01-29T11:40:08Z
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@clive I bet it was easy to confuse 20 and 2000 when they put in their passwords
(DIR) Post #AS8S847v5F6agG975s by Alex@toot.kif.rocks
2023-01-29T12:33:39Z
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@clive amazing! Thanks!
(DIR) Post #AS8X3xMAoQB6IPfmoS by KarenBethany@mas.to
2023-01-29T13:28:25Z
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@clive Love this! Reminds me of when my mom showed me how to count to 99 on my fingers using thumb as 5 - so simple and yet…
(DIR) Post #AS8bkjt9A6TYnHkg7c by DarilSteelbone@rollenspiel.social
2023-01-29T14:21:25Z
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@clive Wow! Thank you for this. It's a very cool way to write down numbers.I also like the Maya style based on number 20. ⚒️
(DIR) Post #AS8cudZ5cxIW22ebmi by phsonnen@union.place
2023-01-29T14:34:29Z
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@clive This is fascinating!!
(DIR) Post #AS8sxx1RLBNoVrW5pY by JonnyT@mastodon.me.uk
2023-01-29T17:34:18Z
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@clive @hansup @cgseife For us today, wouldn't a single vertical line with none of the appendages to left and right be a 0? It's how you've determined the 0 for the second position in the 7085 representation.
(DIR) Post #AS92bwXbRrQWBuhmlM by erg0@hackers.town
2023-01-29T19:22:21Z
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@clive I found out about these when I was decoding last year's DarknetNG. very interesting stuff!
(DIR) Post #AS93fPph6AgVrRO2zY by juanejot@fosstodon.org
2023-01-29T19:34:11Z
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@clive Not gonna lie; the first vision that popped into my head was of 13th century monks programming in BASIC.
(DIR) Post #AS9FzPDYIJPZC7qQro by Aviva_Gary@noc.social
2023-01-29T21:51:59Z
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@clive These are neat
(DIR) Post #AS9J3I7EwMfmBoR81w by jancampbellcady@mastodon.scot
2023-01-29T22:26:34Z
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@clive Cistercian numbers really are amazing. Why didn’t it stay around,it is very efficient. Thanks for that cool information.
(DIR) Post #AS9LQgYURO6sYXSvB2 by KinkyTurtle@dragon.style
2023-01-29T22:52:44Z
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@clive That's neat! You could write a phone number with just two glyphs. Three if you include the area code!Here's They Might Be Giants' Dial-A-Song number in Cistercian glyphs:
(DIR) Post #AS9dI932vyJLUfpqTo by ellane@pkm.social
2023-01-29T01:40:17Z
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@deborahh @clive I suggest doing a double line for tens and thousands (draw the regular shape but use two lines for the horizontals, very close together, making them appear darker), leaving the ones and hundreds as they are.
(DIR) Post #AS9dI9W7BtYywpR3my by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:13:24Z
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@ellane @deborahh Nice!
(DIR) Post #AS9dRBf0ahQ4CZu4Om by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:14:43Z
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@Aviva_Gary Right?
(DIR) Post #AS9dY2wPPKrjBcJT1c by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:14:06Z
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@KinkyTurtle that is so right on
(DIR) Post #AS9dgoEFTcmEABpsie by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:14:30Z
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@jancampbellcady Glad you enjoyed it! Really surprised me, I'd never heard of 'em before
(DIR) Post #AS9dmmaMV2JSnv1lYW by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:15:12Z
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@mdm @vegetablegremlin heh yes
(DIR) Post #AS9duXdrwVv6m5MrIm by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:15:50Z
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@mike @ellane Never heard of teeline or quickscript -- very cool
(DIR) Post #AS9e0Ah8AotnLGZtL6 by hansup@mastodon.social
2023-01-29T19:37:47Z
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@JonnyT @clive @cgseife Yes, could work. Another weird thing is that the symbols for 6, 60, 600, 6000 are the only ones where the second part is not connected to the middle vertical line...
(DIR) Post #AS9e0BACQk9QnQB6eG by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:16:08Z
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@hansup @JonnyT @cgseife yeah, that's trippy, isn't it?
(DIR) Post #AS9eBuyKSJDk3QDuDY by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:16:39Z
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@erg0 It's wild, eh?
(DIR) Post #AS9eJWRhWlZkIuaVtI by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:17:03Z
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@JonnyT @hansup @cgseife yeah good point!
(DIR) Post #AS9eOp3dkwobTYrRZ2 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:16:23Z
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@juanejot Make senseOr programming in APL!
(DIR) Post #AS9eUw3kdX6CvepNr6 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:17:42Z
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@phsonnen right??
(DIR) Post #AS9eaUerQZBLgMpsSO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:17:54Z
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@DarilSteelbone yeah, the mayan system is wild
(DIR) Post #AS9elISH8dDX1M6HrM by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:18:12Z
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@KarenBethany I never learned that -- how does it work?
(DIR) Post #AS9esAhwLCrx1IhoQ4 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:18:24Z
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@Alex 🤘 🤖
(DIR) Post #AS9exWxh1ojrUId54C by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:18:46Z
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@rburghol yesssss
(DIR) Post #AS9f32gUVoBnJzDAjg by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:18:57Z
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@geoffhackworth Aha, had no idea -- thank you!
(DIR) Post #AS9fENRDgsgSsCTP28 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:19:18Z
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@geomannie Totally!
(DIR) Post #AS9fJNbCWGreovWkd6 by ArneBab@rollenspiel.social
2023-01-29T10:29:09Z
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@clive This actually could come in handy to reference parts of a story in a playbook.
(DIR) Post #AS9fJOJ9sq1h1G5r96 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:19:29Z
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@ArneBab yes yes!
(DIR) Post #AS9fOghcv6UTW841p2 by Tr4bend0@toot.aquilenet.fr
2023-01-29T10:23:08Z
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@clive Seems great to forge cheques amounts : you just add some random sticks and you're rich 🤭
(DIR) Post #AS9fOhBP8OJH0TzoEi by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:20:22Z
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@Tr4bend0 lol yes
(DIR) Post #AS9fTtdCHNrt3vTYGG by ampersarnie@mastodon.social
2023-01-29T10:14:36Z
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@gruik @clive Hah! I’ve seen these before but Trunic came to mind for me as well when seeing this post.
(DIR) Post #AS9fTuCIAtwOoltZxo by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:20:48Z
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@ampersarnie @gruik yeah!
(DIR) Post #AS9fYY1y16o3W9HOr2 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:20:56Z
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@gruik heh yes
(DIR) Post #AS9fddWL27GfzYubQW by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:21:22Z
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@annecoombes yeah, it's super cool but doesn't seem very practical for mathmaybe for numbering years?
(DIR) Post #AS9fnhLFgHAajsWYmO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:21:47Z
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@enby_of_the_apocalypse It really is
(DIR) Post #AS9fspUSoPULSXHPHs by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:22:04Z
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@maxthyme Love it!
(DIR) Post #AS9fyarW713HpPoMHg by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:22:11Z
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@dikkii Truly
(DIR) Post #AS9g4CC4k2g73f6B0K by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:22:53Z
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@MarcFramboisier Some people have theorized they used a single stick for zero
(DIR) Post #AS9g9bEp3SvWBBxbIO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:23:11Z
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@f Aha, didn't know that!
(DIR) Post #AS9gRd373lr90d52GG by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:24:55Z
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@ElsaStarTrewyn heh totally
(DIR) Post #AS9gWa2hfKwV8GFXkG by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:25:02Z
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@mdm it really is
(DIR) Post #AS9ggoUcnJzMqSBnHs by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:25:20Z
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@Tedgarrison3 Quite elegant, yeah
(DIR) Post #AS9glxLnI1T9lRVkJM by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:25:29Z
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@cynblogger Oooooo what did they do?
(DIR) Post #AS9h8WKPvKd4cIcttY by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:18:38Z
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@benfulton lol yes
(DIR) Post #AS9hOGXGPOpMGm8wQC by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:25:14Z
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@swansinflight 🤘
(DIR) Post #AS9hUQVMFwHSvUBoUC by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:27:56Z
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@chexum @isaaccp I'm gonna check this all out, thank you
(DIR) Post #AS9hkadUMA9gyrhSGu by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:26:09Z
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@miguelpergamon That's super cool! When did you do that project?
(DIR) Post #AS9hoYfnb0Ak3Gfm1g by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:23:58Z
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@jkirk It's trippy, eh?
(DIR) Post #AS9i4zRVppDTi2pFjM by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:28:23Z
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@resing Truly, I'd like that on a tshirt
(DIR) Post #AS9iP7vS0OhhoIQmf2 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:55:52Z
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@f 🤘
(DIR) Post #AS9ijTFaQj4hjuYAcK by dashrb@awscommunity.social
2023-01-30T03:09:39Z
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@clivethis is bad ass!And yea, I did teach my daughter to count in binary on her fingers when she was young.
(DIR) Post #AS9j0dqwGPABXsD1Ye by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T02:19:11Z
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@scotdowser Very good question!
(DIR) Post #AS9qE2cAD8NBmndPAO by economics@mas.to
2023-01-30T04:38:23Z
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@clive that would make division and subtraction a nightmare. Beautiful, however.
(DIR) Post #AS9xa9dLUhCnbag9cO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T06:00:47Z
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@economics Yeah, preciselyMy *suspicion* -- which I am pulling out of my ass, I should probably do some research before I pop off, but it's late and night and I'm lazy -- is that this numbering system was better suited to listing numbers that aren't being deployed mathematically (i.e. giving a date or a year), and less useful for doing mathBut maybe they did awesome math with it too?
(DIR) Post #AS9xgppNWwp2CnUbqq by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T06:01:00Z
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@dashrb Right on!
(DIR) Post #ASA07smgqUBt6PGCLg by economics@mas.to
2023-01-30T06:29:18Z
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@clive I believe the Basque numbering system resembles it but I am working from memory. They are one of the world’s most unusual group. They are genetic and linguistic isolates and I believe Dominic was a Basque.
(DIR) Post #ASA9KNYr8uxDcLp60m by Nausicaa@pipou.academy
2023-01-30T08:12:23Z
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@clive I once made my own version with symbols I found easier to read quickly, and with a rotated smaller version superposed for decimals
(DIR) Post #ASAAwYy7HKcxxIPTBg by miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social
2023-01-30T08:30:32Z
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@clive Started it in 2014, did 2 full and about 3/4's of 1 of 3 giant epic EPIC drafts. The draft for the first part is on my quangobaud wordpress as "No Man's Land". The second part is also still a draft but not posted. In that 2nd part, pilots need a common Universal language and those Cistercian glyphs are 99% the same as the ones I came-up with. The whole "epic" is set "500 years" in the future (but 100 years after a plague from domestic & citysize biotech "hopped" to the human "pop" and reduced their numbers from 10 billion to one billion). The largest surviving contingent were "caucasian" but there was plague-paranoia genocide of other "races" also involved. Actually, there are large surviving Asiatic, Chinese & Bharat-Indian pops, also. The eurocentric nations have "the patriarchy run by women" and the whole world has been invaded by "invisible alien social workers!". Communication between survivors, oppressors and "invaders" is a main theme but I always stress that there is more to communication than just written words. The 2nd part is kinda a version of Harry Harrison's "the Missing Battleship"/Stainless Steel Rat; like Harrison, I lampoon James Bond and spies in it. The 3rd part's draft got annoying so I slowed down when I was 3/4s through. That one is solidly about the mediocrity of fascists and their enablers.
(DIR) Post #ASAale8gJQnDc7o4rw by KarenBethany@mas.to
2023-01-30T13:19:28Z
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@clive Starting with index, count to four on left hand. For five, lower all four digits and just use thumb. Then thumb + index = 6 and all five digits up is 9. Then use right hand to count 1 index as 10, etc. so once all 10 digits are up it’s 99. She claimed to use toes to get to 9,999 but I was never able to successfully do that. 😂
(DIR) Post #ASAxtYDWVmg8VfoG6i by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T17:37:27Z
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@KarenBethany omg I love it!why had I not learned this until now?Thank you!
(DIR) Post #ASAyTY34cEXEPc5QhM by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T17:40:52Z
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@Nausicaa So cool! When did you do that?
(DIR) Post #ASAya0avOZHmgR06zo by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T17:41:17Z
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@economics I'll check that out, thank you
(DIR) Post #ASAygYeVgLOM37nhx2 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T17:40:35Z
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@miguelpergamon This all sounds amazing, love to read it all when it's done!
(DIR) Post #ASAzrgAq9pgMW4n2BM by cynblogger@sfba.social
2023-01-30T17:58:45Z
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@clive LOL. Check out the way music is notated in original Gregorian chant, which Cistercians & Carthusians (and other monastic orders) still use.
(DIR) Post #ASB37XXaK54OEkgPeS by Nausicaa@pipou.academy
2023-01-30T18:33:37Z
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@clive I was in highschool and bored ahahI learnt about the cistercian notation somehow and I liked the idea but I couldn't remember the order
(DIR) Post #ASBBECd9GSDZ2ryPbs by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-30T20:04:13Z
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@Nausicaa Cool!
(DIR) Post #ASBv15JljkN8UbakM4 by jkirk@hachyderm.io
2023-01-31T04:41:21Z
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@clive efficient
(DIR) Post #ASBvO5Gu4hNt0fDaro by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-31T04:44:35Z
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@jkirk truly
(DIR) Post #ASCDfTEm1SsvR4f7T6 by levoilaux1@social.taker.fr
2023-01-31T08:09:59Z
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@clive Je ne connaissais pas, mais je ne suis pas certain que cette écriture soit facile à apprendre. J'ajoute que faire des calculs avec ces chiffres doit être au moins aussi complexe qu'avec les chiffres romains, voire plus encore.
(DIR) Post #ASCOfs0T1vhzkgMbdA by Lampje@mastodon.social
2023-01-31T10:13:50Z
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@clive isn't that a bit much? Asked the monk, we never use more than 999 numbers in real life...
(DIR) Post #ASDOQn2NPx0D9e1fW4 by erg0@hackers.town
2023-01-31T21:45:40Z
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@clive Went down a rabbithole that led me here. https://crypto.interactive-maths.com/pigpen-cipher.htmlI become transfixed by ciphers for about a month.
(DIR) Post #ASDPBuBEg6hCuzdUMS by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-31T21:51:51Z
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@erg0 aha, I loved that cipher concept when I found in a cub scout book when I was a kid!
(DIR) Post #ASFgEFHUHTSVUS2PWi by resing@social.coop
2023-02-02T00:14:33Z
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@clive here you go! https://www.cafepress.com/designer/custom-mens-tri-blend-t-shirts?productId=1091956945
(DIR) Post #ASGk4Bf5Tc2mLNUnce by clive@saturation.social
2023-02-02T12:25:12Z
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@resing That link died alas!
(DIR) Post #ASJAoRrEZxVP1HohsW by resing@social.coop
2023-02-03T16:40:49Z
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@clive I jumped through some more hoops, recreated it in a vector drawing app so it was my original artwork, created a shop, now I think it should work. I get 50 cents if you buy one: https://www.cafepress.com/tomstees1.1092534863
(DIR) Post #ASJc7bLKEasqhcFVSq by lauriewayne@social.coop
2023-02-03T21:47:21Z
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Lookie @jgaehring, numbers! Base 10 sorry but still cool!
(DIR) Post #ASqFYxilO3JPKArHdI by ruin@ni.hil.ist
2023-02-19T15:40:03Z
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@clive my kid loves using Cistercian numbers to mess with people. He spent the better part of a couple of days when he was six or seven figuring it out and still remembers them
(DIR) Post #ASqdAEQAYbSQmMtxey by clive@saturation.social
2023-02-19T20:03:31Z
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@ruin Nice!
(DIR) Post #ASydk75spau3kBCbCq by DarryB@mastodon.world
2023-02-23T16:48:09Z
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@clive This looks like Ogham.