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 (DIR) Post #AS0L1JzFSovCtoFQ1I by cwebber@octodon.social
       2023-01-24T22:00:44Z
       
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       Not that it matters terribly (since the important thing is disseminating the ideas), but... I had thought maybe I had come up with the term "user freedom" (I certainly was pushing for it) but, @luis_in_brief demonstrated that's not true!  The Franklin Street Statement, which had a big influence on me, already had that term in it in 2008, which certainly precedes when I would have started pushing it by a few years: https://web.archive.org/web/20090129140803/http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/Anyway, happy to be corrected.  I think new-fediverse-participants are probably fairly unaware of autonomo.us, but in large part the fediverse as we know it today exists largely because of the thinking done there.
       
 (DIR) Post #AS0L1WBk6C2uk2BZA1 by technomancy@icosahedron.website
       2023-01-24T22:05:34Z
       
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       @cwebber I'm not sure where I picked it up but I've started using "user empowerment" more recently as I feel it focuses more directly on addressing the power imbalance in the status quousers of proprietary software don't necessarily *feel* "unfree" but they can more readily identify the fact that they have been disempowered(and because "freedom" is teetering on the edge of semantic satiation in a lot of contexts)
       
 (DIR) Post #AS0L1X6ofzhRb2t97Y by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-01-25T03:48:18Z
       
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       @technomancy @cwebber well, freeing and empowering for programmers at least.  everyone else is at the mercy of our whims
       
 (DIR) Post #AS0L1YHqIU77FX3Swi by jfred@jawns.club
       2023-01-25T04:14:16Z
       
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       @aeva @technomancy @cwebber In my mind, user freedom (or user empowerment) has to involve also making that freedom more accessible to people who wouldn't consider themselves programmers. Think HyperCard, Dynamicland, Siri Shortcuts, etcIn other words, it's not just free software. Source code access alone isn't enough
       
 (DIR) Post #AS0L1ZafRylZICs0vY by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-01-25T03:52:25Z
       
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       @technomancy @cwebber which is to say that at some point I realized it's kind of condescending to insist that using a free alternative is liberation or empowering if the alternative doesn't actually meet the person's needs
       
 (DIR) Post #AS0L1Zd9IkkdPu1znM by technomancy@icosahedron.website
       2023-01-25T04:48:22Z
       
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       @jfred @aeva @cwebber right; I guess I should have been clearer; I'm not using the term "user empowerment" as a synonym for "software freedom", I'm using it to move beyond the goals of the FSF to things that really matterpart of why I like the term is that it points to how the FSF's focus on license above all else is small-minded and myopic, exactly as you point out
       
 (DIR) Post #AS7sMMpMkqx8NszJJ2 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-01-29T05:53:37.882468Z
       
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       @ariadne >RMS personally coming in and shooting down integration between emacs and clang's language server support.Dare I say based?Of course rms defended gcc by ensuring that proprietary plugins were prevented - prevention is better than cure after all.>how does THAT benefit user freedom? Since there are still no proprietary plugins for gcc?>all it does is make people use software that isn't emacs. software which might be proprietary, like CLion.Why on earth would I use proprietary malware instead of emacs?True freedom enjoyers don't focus entirely on mere conveniences - an IDE would just get in my way when writing C anyway.