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(DIR) Post #AS0EFB7OXCZtliibi4 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:21:11Z
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What was the most impressive technical feat in its historical context in the following? #gaming #handheld
(DIR) Post #AS0EItVRxQTwIvk48W by tth@mastodon.tetaneutral.net
2023-01-25T13:21:50Z
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@boilingsteam : The Gameboy color
(DIR) Post #AS0Etkq19Hdo8PwFvs by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:28:31Z
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@tth you are showing your age š
(DIR) Post #AS0F188wtlKGRTJKO8 by chfkch@ruhr.social
2023-01-25T13:29:50Z
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@boilingsteamWhat was that colored SEGA handheld console again?@tth
(DIR) Post #AS0F4BC01B4AlfBvsm by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:30:24Z
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I will be in the minority apparently, but the PSP back in 2004 was a much bigger deal than the Steam Deck today. The first time you had top of the line console-level graphics on a handheld. It was awesome.
(DIR) Post #AS0F56pfiLfXXDBv8K by greypilgrim@fosstodon.org
2023-01-25T13:30:34Z
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@boilingsteam I always liked the Vita.
(DIR) Post #AS0F6iVx6DJUh0jaHQ by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:30:52Z
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@chfkch @tth Gamegear - what a bad name actually
(DIR) Post #AS0F8Krhzs8PvRgN4i by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-25T13:30:42.982923Z
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@boilingsteam PSP maybe, Deck definitely.switch? literally an androidless tegra tablet with shitty controls bolted onto it, nothing new nothing special.
(DIR) Post #AS0FAWBYsbEJc70dGK by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:31:33Z
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@hj Yet it sold like hot cakes in no time
(DIR) Post #AS0FDk6rZAJ9fSLhho by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:32:08Z
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@greypilgrim too bad Sony had already decided to kill it by the time they released it
(DIR) Post #AS0FQ86kASXpZUCS92 by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:34:21Z
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@vkredxyz I saw both of them come out on the market, and the Vita was just incrementally better, and full of useless controls (the back side trackpoint, wtf what was that shit for) - of course it was still welcome as an upgraded PSP
(DIR) Post #AS0FfFPFJZ5sYD3xZY by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-25T13:36:38.616429Z
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@boilingsteam On nintendo side, I think the DS was the best they did.Like by latest, on SEGAĀ® side, it would have to be the Vita which was apparently quite a failure.
(DIR) Post #AS0FffoJ90acRSzLFI by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-25T13:36:47.225953Z
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@boilingsteam so did splatoon 3, the most underwhelming nintendo release so far. All because nintendo, gotta have nintendo. They've been whining about nintendo's consoles being underpowered and restrictive since gamecube, and yet when nintendo releases yet another underpowered and restrictive console everyone buys them anyway and then wonder why nintendo doesn't change their way and why their products sell like hotcakes.
(DIR) Post #AS0FvQpUbv3Oc43aEa by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2023-01-25T13:39:54.168595Z
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@hj @boilingsteam From what I see online what most of devs complains about the switch is the lack of RAM where they say 4gb for a game is nothing and switch storage is very slow, so they can't use it as a intermediate cache
(DIR) Post #AS0GDGOo84sFTa4tBw by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-25T13:42:53.514120Z
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@kumicota @boilingsteam and as I said, it's a (by today's standards) rather old nvidia tegra GPU, it wasn't exactly making big headlines back then either, modern phones probably have better GPUs than switch.
(DIR) Post #AS0GhXKnjDwwghdh2W by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:48:38Z
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@minego the lynx and game gear were low res and could not touch the visual quality of the home consoles. Even their fps in most games was super low
(DIR) Post #AS0GhfLRwhDpX20KA4 by kelbot@retro.social
2023-01-25T13:48:43Z
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@boilingsteam I voted PSP and I don't think it's even a close call. Looking at what handhelds and small portable computers were capable of at the time up until the PSP was released it was an incredible achievement at that size and price. The Steam Deck and Switch were released at a time that we've had very thin and small ultrabooks, tablets, smartphones etc. It's a small reconfiguring to go from a tablet to a Steam Deck or Switch but the PSP was released at a time where the first iphone was still 2-3 years away and a lot people, myself included, used the PSP for most of the things we would eventually do with smartphones.
(DIR) Post #AS0Gk3PpQGfClTBuXA by kumicota@weeaboo.space
2023-01-25T13:49:08.276228Z
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@hj @boilingsteam Modern phones have better GPU's and CPU's.Mid-end phones, like the poco x3 pro(the one that I have) run switch games flawless with skyline https://skyline-emu.one/
(DIR) Post #AS0GvjlUJEB3IItQoK by robert_said_what@techhub.social
2023-01-25T13:38:39Z
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@boilingsteam it wasnāt top of the line, top of the line was on console or pc in some cases when the psp came out. The psp was designed to go against the Nintendo handheld and it could have if Sony didnāt abandon it early because it wasnāt making enough bank, where as Nintendo stuck with it and has been making handheld gold for decades while Sony never stuck with it long enough for the psp or the vita
(DIR) Post #AS0GvkLIA6oj5Le1cO by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:51:18Z
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@robert_said_what in 2004 the PSP was very close to what the PS2 could deliver and more powerful than a PS1 for sure.
(DIR) Post #AS0GzayAx5KtArfRGi by senders@mastodon.online
2023-01-25T13:51:56Z
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@boilingsteam a lot of comments to read but y'all are nuts. The PSP didn't penetrate North America the way Nintendo handhelds did. But the PSP was all around better than the DS to the point Internet comics and videos were clowning on it where the PSP was this untouchable giant.Sont fumbled it. IMHO but the DS wasn't good until the 3DS which was still unpowered.The only hesitation I had was the Switch like DESTROYED the handheld market. But I think the PSP helped pave the way
(DIR) Post #AS0H1O7Zh1oBu9v0pU by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-25T13:52:18Z
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@lanodan the DS was cool but the graphics were just horrible even at the time it came out...
(DIR) Post #AS0HFCI8TKsPGnRX8K by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-25T13:54:26.720872Z
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@kura @boilingsteam yeah, Wii was a major breakthrough indeed, but still somewhat underpowered. It's also probably why nintendo went all-in into gimmicks - Nintendo DS having two screens (nintendo handhelds peaked there, really), Wii U being Wii U, switch's joycons being loaded with weird stuff like being able to split bad gampad into two awful gamepads for two players, infrared sensor on one of them, and too many gyros and accelerometers. All just so that nintendo can sell literal high-tech toys like labo and ring fit.As for handhelds - yea, even if underpowered (again), their handhelds had tendency to being just slightly better in terms of convenience/usability. They however, as I said, peaked at DS family (DS, DSLite, even DSi) and right now there are many more portable systems that are better than that, i'm not even counting the mobage market because it's shit.
(DIR) Post #AS0HMoTot2g1jiXWsK by kura@z0ne.social
2023-01-25T13:56:11.844Z
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@hj@shigusegubu.club @boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud I was thinking in "at that time they were huge" not as in "retrospectively they were full of problems"
(DIR) Post #AS0HMpvVVaQ0DsV9fc by KOSMOS@erisly.social
2023-01-25T13:41:05.052Z
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@hj@shigusegubu.club @boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud Assuming you can buy one at release, since Nintendo loves artificial scarcity
(DIR) Post #AS0Hvy3dGl2zZn3OiW by Morgane_lapine@social.mochi.academy
2023-01-25T14:02:31Z
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@boilingsteam Thinking the same yeah. PSP was huge back in the day, and although it didn't get as much attention to steam deck or switch today, i'm still regularly impressed by it.At the time I had a Nintendo DS, so no PSP, and I thought they were very similar. But I got a PSP like 10 years after its release, and it was so weird to see how powerful and how versatile it could be. Also, a nds crack could so some things, but the PSP could do so much more. I've then got a PS vita, which was suprisingly powerful too. I don't remember on which one, but I've been playing PS1 and PS2 games on them, and at the time, being able to watch movies or listen to music or crack and install interesting software was incredible.
(DIR) Post #AS0HwurGeNDHwWir8S by robert_said_what@techhub.social
2023-01-25T14:02:41Z
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@boilingsteam in some ways yes but like so many things Sony it didnāt make gold out of the gate for them so after a year or so it became almost exclusively supported by indie titles and other companies because like the vita Sony abandoned making first party games
(DIR) Post #AS0IVepIFRVGMAMh6m by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-25T14:08:36.569719Z
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@kura @boilingsteam they were huge because there wasn't much anything like it, apart from BRICK GAMEs and tiger electronics and likes (including nintendo's own game and watch series). They were however dead-ended branch of evolution, as "full-sized" tech got more and more portable, which is probably why nintendo decided to make this hybrid portable console that is switch.Problem however is that nintendo was a bit late with that - (tegra) tablets, and phones capable of technically complex games were already a thing before switch's release, industry was already there (albeit very shit), even the bolt-on controllers were a thing too. What nintendo brought to this world at the time? Their name and IP library they refuse to share nowadays except in arcade sector for some reason. You can't even say that switch was a refinement of existing technology - they brought pretty much zero improvement, and gimmicky joycons were nothing new either especially after revolutionary (hehe) WiiMotes which are still better than joycons today.
(DIR) Post #AS0QxaC7rTb5jVs5y4 by x1101@toot.community
2023-01-25T15:43:38Z
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@boilingsteam The steam deck takes it for me because its good on so many different axis at once. * The form factor is as close to perfect (for me) as I've seen.* Its a full on gaming PC, but a portable* It (finally) did the work to bridge the gap for gaming on Linux. So many "Windows Only" games "just work" on the Steam deck. And that's a boon, even for people that don't own one.* For people that just want to play, it can. For people that want to tinker, it can.
(DIR) Post #AS0R3DHrwYYqQOF6sC by popey@ubuntu.social
2023-01-25T15:44:40Z
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@boilingsteam (*) - The Nintendo Gameboy
(DIR) Post #AS0faRB6iVh4QAogro by ghostdancer@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-01-25T18:27:32Z
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@boilingsteam I was about to say the Atari Lynx but then you would think that I should go extinct š @tth
(DIR) Post #AS0pv9Tiibt79J2Sx6 by greypilgrim@fosstodon.org
2023-01-25T20:23:19Z
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@boilingsteam Hmm, I donāt remember that part.
(DIR) Post #AS1HAqs4MhWApr8esS by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-26T01:28:44Z
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@ghostdancer @tth haha I did play with a Lynx myself when I was young - they were huge in size (and with a small screen)
(DIR) Post #AS1HR2jc1ZJQGMu55M by Starkiller926@mstdn.social
2023-01-26T01:31:38Z
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@boilingsteam All three
(DIR) Post #AS1j0ZHhh5zA720uK8 by sapphire@squid.kids
2023-01-26T06:40:32.780297Z
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@hj @boilingsteam okay? Steam Deck is just a midrange laptop with shitty controls bolted onto it
(DIR) Post #AS1spTBJ2oRhXXMrdw by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-26T08:30:40Z
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@sapphire @hj controls are not that bad
(DIR) Post #AS201Yhr1mmppUIsd6 by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-26T09:50:51.514765Z
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@sapphire@squid.kids @boilingsteam from technological point of view, deck's APU is really nothing we've seen so far, its OS and controls are a refinement of valve's efforts of last few years - it's a massive improvement over SteamOS, Steam Big Picture and Steam Controler/Steam Input. If you want to see it as a midrange laptop with shitty controls - it's one of the best midrange laptops, and from a certain point of view it has way better portability and usability than most laptops - it's easier to whip out steamdeck on the go and play immideately than it is with a gaming laptop.from commercial point of view it's pretty revolutionary, as most of other portable gaming devices so far have been either rather barebones, more emulation-focused or both. Steamdeck is the first actualization of the idea of a portable gaming pc capable of running modern games, it's not a new idea (SmachZ comes to mind) but it's the idea successfully put into material world with great success.
(DIR) Post #AS20BPIoqUo3YmI0w4 by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-26T09:52:43.242868Z
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@boilingsteam @sapphire@squid.kids depends on your hands really, I've had some people say that it's too big for them, at the same time i can say that joycons hurt my hands, especially the right stick.My only real complaint about deck's controls is the B button - it's awkward to press and also it's been sticking recently, too.
(DIR) Post #AS2LAILjJFvMk8xhh2 by sapphire@squid.kids
2023-01-26T13:48:05.714673Z
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@hj @boilingsteam careful, if you crawl any further up there youāll know what gabe had for breakfast
(DIR) Post #AS2LW0NinJHrO6FIfY by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-26T13:51:52.226542Z
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@sapphire@squid.kids @boilingsteam :what:
(DIR) Post #AS2Mdjn2SvBoCUL3oW by monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st
2023-01-26T14:04:43.176749Z
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@boilingsteam Ps Vita whenever that released
(DIR) Post #AS2Mi2emGGEBsBWjVQ by monsterislandcolonizer@poa.st
2023-01-26T14:05:29.839083Z
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@chfkch @boilingsteam @tth Took 6 AAs and died after 4 hours
(DIR) Post #AS2PgWh3uiJaJWZ43k by jepyang@wandering.shop
2023-01-26T14:38:47Z
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@boilingsteam found the person who never had a Sega Nomad
(DIR) Post #AS2QWv1ahEdmpl9Jzc by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-26T14:48:17Z
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@jepyang > released in North America in October 1995. Hardly "top of the line" when the consoles were already 32 bits in the house
(DIR) Post #AS2Qqs7NDHGnbuMuFE by jepyang@wandering.shop
2023-01-26T14:51:51Z
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@boilingsteam I voted for Switch because itās the only one that feels like a true innovation to me. PSP and Steam Deck both fit a lot of power into a small packageā¦but thatās just the normal progression of gaming hardware.The Switch isnāt mind-blowing in sheer power but it puts the console/handheld-hybrid concept at the center of its design rather than slapping it on as an afterthought, and does a solid job at it.
(DIR) Post #AS2QzzMTeQ44gMmRjE by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-26T14:53:07.756427Z
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@boilingsteam @jepyang well sega nomad is quite literally a portable megadrive. ahead of its time, but IIRC technology-wise it runs in same exact hardware as a regular megadrive, just on battery power, with all the consequences of doing so. It was even bulkier than steam deck.But i do agree that at least commercially it was impressive technological feat - a new portable console that can run a lot of existing games!
(DIR) Post #AS2ReEKdPY4mhA6hkW by jepyang@wandering.shop
2023-01-26T15:00:46Z
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@boilingsteam Iād argue the same is true of PSP if thatās how you define ātop of the line.ā It couldnāt match or beat what the home consoles were doing when it was released, and had less than a year on the market before the next gen of even *more* powerful home consoles started to get released. š¤·āāļø
(DIR) Post #AS2RqelWxN6w9Yc3Zg by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-26T15:03:03Z
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@jepyang I disagree, the PSP did not blush against PS2 games, as it was clearly between PS1 and PS2 in terms of raw power. It was way closer to the real deal that the Nomad was to the Playstation.