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(DIR) Post #ANLD2aARcZ3nHfACGG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-08T02:56:07Z
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Our goal is simple: restore Western Civilization. The modern brew of democracy, inclusion, equality, diversity, and socialism/entitlements has failed.Our plan:* Seize power* Relocate all other ethnic groups* Exile the defectives* Restore the kingsKey readings:* https://archive.org/details/HenryHazlittEconomicsInOneLesson* http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html* https://archive.org/details/HoppeDemocracyTheGodThatFailed* https://archive.org/details/MenAmongTheRuins_201810More details:https://www.amerika.org/about
(DIR) Post #ANLDRK46crSwaDznM0 by Billytalty@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-08T03:00:37Z
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@amerika this is about as ignorant as anarchy. Relocate mixed ethnic groups? 😂
(DIR) Post #ANLdawhkvqI5ptn6bg by h4890@liberdon.com
2022-09-08T07:53:41Z
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@amerika Did you read economics in one lesson? Nothing of what you say is supported and written about there. And forced relocation, exiles and kings are hardly compatible with free markets. And no, Hazlitt was not a monarchist.
(DIR) Post #ANMzbfTyqEA8rU3b5E by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-08T23:35:02Z
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@Billytalty Diversity does not work. One ethnic group per nation.
(DIR) Post #ANOjP8nzIbXZ5bL8RE by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2022-09-09T19:42:54Z
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@amerika you know we strongly disagree but I thought you'd enjoy this:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/matthew-rose-on-the-radical-right/id1536984072?i=1000578973438
(DIR) Post #ANOpDdcnUEA6vN0Iam by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-09T20:48:04Z
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@wjmaggos Thanks! I'll check it out. Evola/Guenon are interesting but I see them as less the foundation of the far-Right these days than they were pre-Moldbug and Trump!
(DIR) Post #ANuCLBpaquRQ92Noau by rolt@pieville.net
2022-09-25T00:03:12Z
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@amerika Consider adding Kirkpatrick Sale's _Human Scale_ to your list. It's sitting in a prominent place on my shelf but I haven't cracked it open in ten years. Still, it had a huge influence on my worldview as I departed from Lew Rockwell and other anti-statists who seemed to think a world of megacorporations is somehow better because toothpaste costs less at Walmart than at the corner store run by a family in town.
(DIR) Post #ANuPFmxJD738x0kMSm by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-09-25T02:27:53Z
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@rolt I will put it on the list. I think we need to consider both human and efficiency factors. We want low cost of living, but also... social order!
(DIR) Post #AOxikFUshV07Il4bL6 by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T14:42:31Z
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@amerika So... a fascist state?
(DIR) Post #AOxoIac9C310PbfM9I by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:44:46Z
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@SirMathieu > Restore the kingsObviously not.I favor #ethnonationalism because it works and nothing else does.I like #eugenics because it removes the incompetents, criminals, retards, insane, and promiscuous. It is not fair to do this to a mixed-race/mixed-ethnic group; you will favor one group and decimate the rest.But generally, I like leaving people alone if they are doing no harm, and rewarding ONLY those who do good.
(DIR) Post #AOxoMYiMCO9Rg6Smyu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:45:29Z
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@SirMathieu This is the ancient Platonic riff: "good to the good, and bad to the bad." It is both morality and natural selection.Fascism attempts to build within the Communist model a corporatist State, but I oppose the State entirely, preferring what came before -- and will come after -- it.
(DIR) Post #AOxoVBn8nKrjBrofDM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:47:02Z
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@SirMathieu While I sympathize with the goal of National Socialism (a strong ethnic group) I think it is also too much infested with the French Revolution to go anywhere, not to mention pathologies that quickly become universal scapegoats.I have no problem with their eugenics program (Aktion T4) which was actually fairly restrained and restored a good deal of genetic health to Germany.Their economic policy, repressive super-State, anti-tobacco, and murders? Nein. Nyet. No thank you.
(DIR) Post #AOxogNLq9lOGEANf0q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:49:03Z
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@SirMathieu Some coverage on a few related topics:https://www.amerika.org/tag/national-socialism/https://www.amerika.org/tag/white-nationalism/https://www.amerika.org/tag/aristocracy/https://www.amerika.org/tag/eugenics/https://www.amerika.org/tag/capitalism/I recognize that all of this is controversial, but what is the point in recombining parts of a failing system like DIEDS (diversity, individualism, equality, democracy, and socialism)?
(DIR) Post #AOxooI4neUVGBVBU7U by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:50:30Z
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@SirMathieu I enjoy the aesthetics of the Fascists and National Socialists, but I question why anyone would want to live under those States.1. Still the State2. Who wants to be this involved with government?3. The usual instability stew of repression, censorship, murder, scapegoating, militarism, et al.Under an aristocracy, which comes with a caste system, social hierarchy rewards the good and gradually eliminates the bad.This is natural; the fascists are hyper-artificial.
(DIR) Post #AOxovAx6XP407HrruK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:51:44Z
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@SirMathieu Of course, democracy, civil rights, mixed economies, diversity, theocracy, etc. are even more hyper-artificial, but most prefer them to fascism because they move more slowly.There is wisdom in that, moving slowly. Sure, you have to relocate all who are not of the founding group of #WASPs:https://www.amerika.org/tag/reparations-with-repatriation/And then you have to weed out the weak and defective, but after that, it is easy living with a high tolerance for personal eccentricity.
(DIR) Post #AOxp2Evq8kIuUCe2kK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T15:53:01Z
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@SirMathieu I prefer this to what the Fascists (Mussolini, Franco) offer which is a permanently mobilized super-State on a war footing, which means that inevitably it will find a way to start a war, even if indirectly.That being said, Fascism, National Socialism, and theocracy are all better than Communism or even the Socialism lite ("mixed economy") we have now.However, both Fascism and National Socialism have mixed economies as well, and those will in time take over.
(DIR) Post #AOxrL5Z3ONkeqN6POC by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T16:18:50Z
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@amerika You can look at it in any angle but it all boils down to control and becoming the very monster you want to beat in the first place, and who would be the ones taking the decisions on who is desirable or not? Soon enough people won't tolerate it, they will fight, you can't just label a group of people and expect them to "go along with the master plan". Its neat on paper in a vacuum, but in practice its just another dictatorship.
(DIR) Post #AOxsLCPI3H8e1H9UK8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T16:30:03Z
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@SirMathieu Control will be seized by someone. Better to give it to those who are most capable.As far as becoming the monster, I do not think so, at all. Ideology does that, not strong power.Who would be the ones making the decisions? The best people in our society, instead of the worst.People won't tolerate it, you say? There are always revolutionaries and they never do anything but destroy societies.
(DIR) Post #AOxsPCYPRln3dNKGy8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T16:30:47Z
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@SirMathieu Dictatorship is another form of government entirely.As of 2022, it is clear that the following egalitarian programs have shat the bed:* Entitlements/Socialism* Sexual liberation* Civil Rights* Diversity* Tolerance* GlobalismTime to replace these failed things and move on.
(DIR) Post #AOxyjYKKnwcCg7pWKG by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T17:41:41Z
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@amerika So an intolerant, divisive, sexually repressed, fascist state is a better alternative? So abortions and euthanasia for the "undesirables" is ok i guess then? What about religion? Theocracy maybe on top of that, just for good measure?People should broaden their horizons instead of ruminating the same regressive ideologies, Rome fell for a reason you know...I respect your ideas, but its not my cup of tea and its a narrow worldview IMO.
(DIR) Post #AOxz13btkOLucnOMq0 by lavish@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T17:44:51Z
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@SirMathieu @amerika hey it's mat!
(DIR) Post #AOxz7QxVqnLOmDXhrs by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T17:46:00Z
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@lavish @amerika 👋
(DIR) Post #AOxzRcgRy3c0vrBl5s by lavish@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T17:49:39Z
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@SirMathieu @amerika
(DIR) Post #AOy8MFaRJUHNRCtG7c by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:29:31Z
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@SirMathieu "So an intolerant, divisive, sexually repressed, fascist state is a better alternative?"I don't know. That's definitely not what I am arguing for."So abortions and euthanasia for the 'undesirables' is ok i guess then?"Absolutely. Euthanasia of the retarded, criminal, promiscuous, and insane is a must."People should broaden their horizons instead of ruminating the same regressive ideologies"I agree, which is why I left the modern state and embraced #monarchism.
(DIR) Post #AOy8PXPVVAkPaNLPP6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:30:07Z
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@SirMathieu I would also say this is the opposite of a narrow worldview.The narrow worldview is to put blinders on and see nothing but modernity.This system escapes from modernity, and would actually work unlike what we have now.
(DIR) Post #AOy8SzpSIaeuap89Ym by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:30:44Z
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@SirMathieu "Theocracy maybe on top of that, just for good measure?"I think the problem here is that you may not understand what I am talking about here.A monarchist, hierarchical society based on culture is the opposite of a modern micromanagement-based system.
(DIR) Post #AOy99n3Lfv8dQB2D2m by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:38:29Z
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@amerika Rather i'd say its the "head in the sand" approach, where everything that doesnt align with your values/morals must either die or be destroyed or purged out, its an isolationist mentality. I mean, North Korea has that going for them, not sure how people "like" it, but since its mandatory to love the party and leader (monarch) in place, then i would say it would be a win in your eyes.
(DIR) Post #AOy9buWLVIzegr0TjM by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:43:34Z
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@amerika This really looks like more of the view i see with Evangelicals who think one man/god/chosen one, can solve *all* the problems in the society. Heck, i'd be willing to bet they would gladly accept Trump as a "King" and ditch the whole Independence history of the USA, simply based on blind faith. I'm not sure how long that would last in this day and age.
(DIR) Post #AOyAtWUveukFLqJ2oK by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:57:57Z
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@SirMathieu That does not make sense either:1. I do not target "everything that does not align with your values/morals" but specific social threats. Those things which do not fit here will do fine elsewhere.2. It is not isolationist, merely not diverse.3. North Korea is Communist and anti-monarchist.
(DIR) Post #AOyAyXg0hhOqSGsmlE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T19:58:51Z
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@SirMathieu I am not Utopian, nor do I seek to "solve" "all the problems in the society."I seek to form the basis of a highly functional society in contrast to the current ruin.
(DIR) Post #AOyBn3YsQkfnp7dJTM by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:07:59Z
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@amerika NK brands itself as a democracy, they take root in communism indeed, but the facts are that its an absolute monarchy, its the Kim family running things, and their "constitution" is literally a pseudo "10 commandments" thought up in '74, and its mandatory to obey it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Principles_for_the_Establishment_of_a_Monolithic_Ideological_System
(DIR) Post #AOyBtXxwIja9rGS0Lg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:09:09Z
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@SirMathieu That is not a monarchy; it is a dictatorship run by a dynasty.The Soviets called themselves a democracy too, and may not have been wholly wrong.
(DIR) Post #AOyC0RHtWqGDAo4TEe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:10:24Z
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@SirMathieu It is worth mentioning here of course that North Korea is a vassal state of the Chinese Communist Party, as well.Not an easy situation for them. They have my sympathies, and "Juche" has some interesting aspects.Monarchies escape the insanity of modernity that demands mass rule, including mass rule through the will of a dictator.The other stuff I add in, including the libertarian stuff, is designed for quality of life and relaxation of mind.
(DIR) Post #AOyC8VYVXodmj7gnY0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:11:52Z
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@SirMathieu The society I speak of is not going to try to take over the world, or even rule much of it beyond its own borders.In North America, it would be ethnically #WASP, have aristocrats and social rank, possess a free market economy, but conserve half of the land for nature.Economically this would result in higher value but lower cost to land, therefore increased production, in addition to removal of destructive factors like entitlements, micromanagement, diversity, etc.
(DIR) Post #AOyC8rzC9H3mIGLQCO by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:11:54Z
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@amerika I understand your position, its frustrating when you look at what is wrong with society and the solutions never seem to really "cut it". Its also congnitive bias for all of us to stay in the same mindset that everything is getting destroyed by the big bad lefties, then everything is in one way or another some "globalist" agenda, socialist propaganda, etc.
(DIR) Post #AOyCEYdR0YOs0zsWn2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:12:57Z
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@SirMathieu "I understand your position, its frustrating when you look at what is wrong with society and the solutions never seem to really 'cut it'."I agree, but would point out that we have artificially narrowed the solution set we should consider.I would prefer to avoid Big State systems like Communism, Fascism, and National Socialism, all of which are built on the French Revolution model.
(DIR) Post #AOyCOuWCV84wmTQoe8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:14:50Z
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@SirMathieu I must however disagree with your second sentence: in my view, there is no bad guy, only dysfunctional policy arising from unrealistic ideas.All of those are egalitarian:* Feminism = sexual equality* Socialism = economic equality* Democracy = political equality* Diversity = genetic equality* Meritocracy = talent equalityAll of these are designed to force uniformity on a population so that it can be easily controlled by a bureaucracy and alliance of shopkeepers.
(DIR) Post #AOyCTJzNkAdIw2BTX6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:15:37Z
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@SirMathieu The globalist agenda is World Federalism, which was most popular from the 1920s-1980s among Lefties.Socialism is just the economic form of democracy. In my view, democracies turn to it inevitably to reduce costs over time, which backfires.
(DIR) Post #AOyCW1UgxpuGRV7L1M by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:16:06Z
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@Billytalty Diversity is a highly destructive policy. If we want to survive, we must end it.
(DIR) Post #AOyDfEZzmWSraSYPk8 by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2022-10-26T20:28:57Z
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@amerika @SirMathieubut what we call democracy is actually a democratic republic, cause a pure democracy doesn't work as well. societies are trending towards mixed economies for the same reason, pure capitalism and pure socialism don't work as well. No person/group has the answers. the greatest human skill is adaptation. shouldn't that be the core priority of our governments/cultures too? it's so frustrating that people can't be comfortable in the unknown/imperfect.
(DIR) Post #AOyFgu8QxsHufPaQaG by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:51:41Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu Our "republic" has just failed to restrain the excesses of democracy, no matter which side you view it from.Mixed economies also have spent themselves into bankruptcy, following the path of the Soviet Union.It turns out that we need another method.I suggest culture/homogeneity and hierarchy.If our skill is adaptation, then we should learn from the past and avoid these obvious pitfalls.
(DIR) Post #AOyFjeEgXAIcE1oovg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-26T20:52:11Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu As far as the unknown/imperfect, this is why people like me are not Utopians.We do not believe in perfection on Earth (or probably anywhere else; perfection is a false symbol).
(DIR) Post #AOyJiaLntQvZhctgaO by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2022-10-26T21:36:47Z
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@amerika @SirMathieu people want answers and you are ready to provide them, and following them would be quite an upheaval to our current lives. you don't want adaptation, you want utter revision of the American project.I do not believe things are bad enough to require such drastic action. I do not believe that such drastic action would be likely to avoid horrible unintended consequences. I doubt anyone can have the answers as well figured out as you claim to.
(DIR) Post #AOziqoZ7cPsa7N6iOW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T13:53:08Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu Change America MORE than the Civil Rights Act of 1866? I doubt that.People want answers... the answers have always been there.I think things are very, very bad right now indeed, and we only see the tip of the iceberg.Keep in mind I have 30+ years of writing and thinking about this topic under my belt plus a fair amount of higher education and workplace experience.
(DIR) Post #AOzjuCb4pIG7TPCWHI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:04:57Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu I find it interesting that people do not see the deep trouble they are in in a dying democratic mixed economy empire.Nor see the signs on the wall.Generally I see it as denial. Around here, my more moderate friends all tend to be firmly in denial because they do not want to face the risk to their family, property, and legacy that is happening all around them.
(DIR) Post #AOzkbQFnvTeUHVrNCK by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:12:45Z
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@amerika Thats actually my thoughts but on the opposite side, as to what is this "deep trouble" you talk about. Sure if you only watch right wing news all day, everything is in chaos, the enemy is at the gate, and all kinds of shady people are after your rights/liberties. Its a classic mindset propagated by this type of media, sure things could be better, but is it *really* that bad? I mean, women are getting shot in Iran for showing hair lol @wjmaggos
(DIR) Post #AOzl5kn88HNAfHuX9U by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:18:15Z
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@SirMathieu @wjmaggos If I want to get an A in a class, I do not look at what the student getting an F does.Iran, bless its heart, has had problems for a long time. I do not know what the answer is for them, nor is it really any of my business.The problem with civilization decay is that the signs are subtle and the damage unfixable.
(DIR) Post #AOzlA6s5ytm2IsJJNQ by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:19:02Z
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@SirMathieu @wjmaggos Is stuff bad all over?Yes: most of humanity lives at the subsistence level.We want to shoot for something higher that does not self-destruct like Rome, Athens, and London.
(DIR) Post #AOzmTyI7gx4NREWG24 by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:33:46Z
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@amerika I'm just saying it could be way worse than it is right now. Our generation doesn't know anything about actual catastrophic collapse or crisis. But everyone has apprehension about it, because of what we see happening elsewhere, another city, state, country. This feeling of apprehension is the life blood of conspiracy circles and people like AJ, they feed that feeling to keep people hooked and give them no escape. Bill Hicks said it, its only a choice, between Fear and Love.@wjmaggos
(DIR) Post #AOznGJePa4fBaEzsMS by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:42:34Z
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@amerika Saying that humanity lives at the subsistence level is quite radical to say the least. Don't take this personally, but americans in general have that general feeling that things were better back in the "good old days" and its a theme i've seen for over 10 years, or at least since i started listening to NA.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2848343/In the USA the majority agrees with the statement “In spite of what some people say, the lot of the average man is getting worse, not better”@wjmaggos
(DIR) Post #AOznbnPw6YXFz4T7j6 by SirMathieu@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:46:27Z
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@amerika Heck, just look at Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again" not only he took it from Reagan so "back in the day" but it has the clear message that things were "better" back in then. You can't make this up 😅 @wjmaggos
(DIR) Post #AOznccCDJKrVTHRNuy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:46:33Z
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@SirMathieu @wjmaggos This is the effects of capitalism on material happiness, done by one researcher, in 2009.Not strong data.I think we are doing better in technology and wealth.He does not look at stability in the long term, nor assess existential issues at all.
(DIR) Post #AOznljcJ5cRn5ozhWy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:48:13Z
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@SirMathieu @wjmaggos It could be worse, but that does not speak to the future.Collapse means things "suddenly" become catastrophically worse.1980s America was a better place than contemporary America.I don't think the NA crowd is wrong on that one at all.
(DIR) Post #AOznoC1OS8pVldtsjg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:48:41Z
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@SirMathieu @wjmaggos Also, I think most of us are measuring changes locally.I do not spend much time worrying about what California does to itself, for example.
(DIR) Post #AOznqHi4H6cBzLrHf6 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T14:49:04Z
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@SirMathieu @wjmaggos The 1960s were highly destructive.So were the 1990s.Decay tends to come in stages.
(DIR) Post #AOztmSltny5ErYDAJc by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2022-10-27T15:55:34Z
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@amerika @SirMathieu that might depend on your perspective, which is my whole point.
(DIR) Post #AOztuCO4baEUMekuoq by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T15:56:59Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu Those who benefit from decay love decay, for sure.
(DIR) Post #AOztvAJBoryeCsvrXM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T15:57:11Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu Pluralism does not mean that all perspectives are equally real.
(DIR) Post #AOzuowtwr040qGj2vI by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2022-10-27T16:07:14Z
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@amerika @SirMathieu life can get better for some and worse for others. life can better in certain ways and worse in certain ways for the same person. judging this all in aggregate depends on your priorities. there's also other factors like location and time period. regarding Rome etc, some advances may come with a downfall, that allow for greater heights later. you can't assume those advances would have come with some other system.MAGA is built on straight cis white male life in the 1950s.
(DIR) Post #AOzuvdpi9EGBjIw1R2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T16:08:27Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu We are talking about a civilization here.I am sure that some benefit from decay, but then all lose out when the civilization crashes.We know the historical cycle of democracy and it is playing out exactly as expected.In the meantime, 1950s America was a lot more functional than the present day, even if it had disadvantages.Collapse is failure. Disadvantages are temporary.
(DIR) Post #AOzvY2yD8Yo8hADvkW by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2022-10-27T16:15:23Z
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@amerika @SirMathieu was Rome a separate civilization to ours? was China? is China today?we learn from everything that came before. you think we're taking the wrong lessons, we think you are.
(DIR) Post #AOzveG5dGsVL7fenGi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2022-10-27T16:16:32Z
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@wjmaggos @SirMathieu Ideology versus naturalism again!Rome is a related civilization to the West, at least.China is not. Their struggles are different.Learning from everything that came before means recognizing that some policies work out badly, like socialism, diversity, equality, and so on.Ideologically, they are correct and make some people happy for that reason.Realistically, they have bad consequences.
(DIR) Post #AP0RMqCrRtlqSOmDNw by Leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net
2022-10-27T22:11:49.880030Z
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@SirMathieu Things were objectively better three years ago@amerika @wjmaggos
(DIR) Post #ARpHT1haVFqvk6Norw by aevisia@gleasonator.com
2023-01-13T15:04:30.445577Z
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@Billytalty @amerika This must be why lefts think people with right leaning views are nazis. 😅 They come across one in a million posts like this one and try to stereotype it as being everybody.
(DIR) Post #ARpHT2NlyPb3qw7Vce by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T06:35:29Z
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@aevisia @Billytalty Diversity does not work, so perpetuating it is cruelty, and I oppose cruelty without reason.
(DIR) Post #ARpJREzIKv8aHBwRv6 by aevisia@gleasonator.com
2023-01-20T06:41:45.137655Z
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@amerika @Billytalty @amerikaWell, there's no getting away from it unless you're wanting to live under a rock. I find it funny you chose the Fediverse to hang out if you despise is so much 😉 it's a pretty diverse place to be here!@Billytalty
(DIR) Post #ARpJRFY2FkvW0wCC4O by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T06:57:35Z
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@aevisia @Billytalty I do not mind communicating with others from other backgrounds.Diversity -- more than one ethnic group per society -- is destructive however.
(DIR) Post #ARpph6AQ60Jq5Pkc1g by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-20T11:10:42.413339Z
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@amerika Oh shit you're a nazi 😆 how come you're willing to follow me ?
(DIR) Post #ARpph6qFaTmOB9K1E8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T12:59:00Z
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@Ana00000 You seem interesting. I follow a lot of people of different types and believe in #OpenDiscussion, from which I learn a bit.As far as being a "Nazi," I am much worse: I am a royalist. As you can see from my list of dislikes, National Socialism is off the menu.
(DIR) Post #ARq701EMN85JV0CY64 by bruja@spinster.xyz
2023-01-20T15:31:05.585706Z
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@amerika Wait, what? Are all white people considered one ethnic group? Are you going to move out of America because it is native american land? Are you insistent on removing Native Americans off their own land? I'm genuinely curious.
(DIR) Post #ARq701hmbjcWyFy2xU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T16:12:54Z
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@bruja "Native Americans" are Mongolian immigrants.Not all White people are the same ethnic group. There are three regional groups, Southern, Eastern, and Western European, and in each of those ethnic groups, although there is a fair amount of compatibility between them.
(DIR) Post #ARq8TED9I2Da6q7vou by bruja@spinster.xyz
2023-01-20T16:24:45.496943Z
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@amerika What ethnic group gets to stay, and who has to go? And, what would relocation imply?
(DIR) Post #ARq8TEk7JSabl5YGCu by bruja@spinster.xyz
2023-01-20T16:26:51.005964Z
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@amerika And what about mixed race humans?
(DIR) Post #ARq8TFLL54MbcWxzE0 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T16:29:23Z
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@bruja We already have some great mixed-race areas like the middle east and north Africa.
(DIR) Post #ARq8ZYg66iIHK8gaMi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T16:30:33Z
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@bruja I favor reparations-with-repatriation for all non-WASPs. The founding group of this civilization should continue it.
(DIR) Post #ARq8n9qXEAXSMd3KAi by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-20T16:30:29.507955Z
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@amerika @bruja I don't understand why you want to relocate people. I'm really willing to hear your argument about that :)
(DIR) Post #ARq8nAJFVPVVngUFvc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T16:32:59Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja I like preserving culture against the onslaught of ideology and commerce. To do that, one needs mono-ethnic states.
(DIR) Post #ARq9gm4anqWaqi9Emm by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-20T16:34:14.910010Z
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@amerika @bruja But isn't culture a mix of different people ? I feel like without some sort of mix, cultures just die.
(DIR) Post #ARq9gmZmvrTiPSk9PU by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-20T16:43:03Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja Culture occurs in a homogeneous group. That way, you have similar people doing similar things.What usually kills cultures is government, brought about in most cases to manage post-revolutionary chaos.We can still be curious about what goes on abroad, but we need a sense of self so that we have higher standards than ideology and commerce.
(DIR) Post #ARs1ubtD3Fa80CpW9g by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-21T09:33:54.385603Z
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@amerika @bruja It's very interesting, I think we don't see culture the same way at all. I feel like culture is never homogeneous. Culture is built by other culture, the culture you have today is the result of people traveling, invading other countries, having children with people from different cultures, etc... Humans have always crossed oceans and learned new cultures. I think that if people wouldn't do that, the culture would be poor and would eventually die out. Culture is constantly evolving and changing, and I don't know where you live but I feel like no country has only one culture. Everyone has ancestors who came from far away and bring a piece of their culture to the next generation. And what would be a "pure" culture ? The mixing of culture is something that has always existed, and the mix is what creates culture. How far would you want to go back to define a country's culture ?I feel like if we did what you suggest, it would be indeed the government killing culture more than anything else.I think it's important to have a sense of self and cultivate our culture if we want to, but I don't think that relocating people will really work. Plus, how do you want to choose who stays and who goes ? No one is purely one race, no one is purely from one culture. And how would you define a country's culture ? I feel like no one would agree on only one thing, it's always a big mess of multiples old traditions. I'm very curious of your opinion on the matter :)
(DIR) Post #ARs1udpjp7ze21Dm1Q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-21T14:25:20Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja I agree we do not see culture as the same at all.I think it's a bullshit buzzword in most conversations, don't you?Organic culture is the collection of tendencies of a group that did not have to be instructed to them. Like all organic things, it rises up.I think you are talking about restaurants when you talk about culture acquired from afar.Otherwise, do you have an example in mind?
(DIR) Post #ARs1wmMF6MQT33Rb0q by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-21T14:25:43Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja And also:"No one is purely one race"No, we can see that this is not true at all via genetics.Some racial groups have trace admixture of other races, generlaly clinal.
(DIR) Post #ARs1zTSjoHqlJYldp2 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-21T14:26:13Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja "And how would you define a country's culture ?"That's the beauty of culture: you do not define and impose it like ideology.
(DIR) Post #ARs22mooIkJUDNffBg by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-21T14:26:49Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja "I feel like no one would agree on only one thing"I am not egalitarian at all; I realize that most people would not agree that breathing oxygen is good.People are incoherent. Watch what they do, not what they say. Most human speech is salesmanship and lies.
(DIR) Post #ARsCcdgcjM0XrJZnMm by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-21T15:31:44.030102Z
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@amerika @bruja I don't know, maybe. I don't often have debates about culture tbh.What would you define as organic culture ? Lmao, no I wasn't thinking about restaurants. I was thinking about social norms, language, beliefs and religions, warfare, art, science, technology, hairstyles and fashion, and yeah, food, of course, but it wasn't the first thing that popped into my head. I'm not sure I understand what you said about race. Could you explain it to me ?So, when you say you want to relocate people so ensure that a country's culture stay "pure" or whatever, you also admit that you couldn't define said culture not impose it, right ? So how do you know it's the right culture ? Indeed, people are incoherent, that's human. I feel like you don't know many multi cultural people ? Like, IRL and not through the media.
(DIR) Post #ARsCce9L0aybIN0j7g by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-21T16:25:20Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja Your final paragraph is some conjecture that is very unwise.Organic culture is that which arises from daily life and interactions.Social norms are part of that, as are beliefs.The rest seem to be simply book learning.Allowing culture to exist keeps government at bay.
(DIR) Post #ARvqxYpoXlUqX8Hn9s by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-21T16:31:58.244626Z
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@amerika @bruja I just said what I thought, but I didn't mean to be disrespectful or anything. I do really wonder about it though. I hope we can discuss this honestly.Ok, so if I have a bit of every culture in my daily life, does that mean that it's organic culture ? And if so, who do I have to move to another country, if my daily life and interaction is a mix of tons of cultures ? So, you say that beliefs are organic, and so, they don't come from other cultures, right ? Why ?
(DIR) Post #ARvqxZNqVEicEgCyCe by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-23T10:41:27Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja "So, you say that beliefs are organic, and so, they don't come from other cultures, right ?"Yep, they arise within a culture.Otherwise, paradox: if there are no cultures, then diversity is useless."Ok, so if I have a bit of every culture in my daily life, does that mean that it's organic culture ?"Depends on whether it is organically arising or artificial.Also on whether it is culture, which I am not sure you have separated from politics and commerce.
(DIR) Post #ARvqxa2c3fKQH7HWkK by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-23T10:32:02.744093Z
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@amerika @bruja @amerika Did I offend you ?
(DIR) Post #ARvwlLXgjoQVYeMnOS by EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt@shitpost.cloud
2023-01-23T11:22:06.165441Z
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No we came, saw, and conquered. Then we fucked all your women. You are a conquered people, you don't get to give orders.
(DIR) Post #ARvwlMCoGvJtcBbdUO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-23T11:46:28Z
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@EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt @bruja Eh...I think it was a typical diversity conflict.The continent was mostly unsettled, so settlers showed up.A group of Indians attacked at some point.The settlers began to defend themselves.This got organized to the point of extermination raids.Diversity always goes this way.
(DIR) Post #ARvwnbkdRdy6PLV70i by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-23T11:46:53Z
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@EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt @bruja I do not see it as something to celebrate, but my solution of repatriation to Mongolia with reparations is the fairest for today's Amerinds.
(DIR) Post #ARx5i9AnMb8B4XASZM by book@sleepy.cafe
2023-01-23T10:43:54.399413Z
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UOOOOOOOOH! CHILD EROTIC! 😭😭😭😭
(DIR) Post #ARx5i9ghRyeSfU5wIa by bruja@spinster.xyz
2023-01-24T00:58:39.737080Z
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@book @amerika Nobody asked for your opinion, shit head.
(DIR) Post #ARySFh0wxKJ9jbvKCW by bruja@spinster.xyz
2023-01-24T00:56:12.987571Z
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@EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt @amerika Please! you're the fat, inbred child of no conqueror. And you didn't conquer shit. Even an animal woudn't shit in your mouth given a chance, forget any woman.
(DIR) Post #ARySFhYGxQxlOxVw8m by EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt@shitpost.cloud
2023-01-24T16:30:12.707678Z
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Your people were almost genocided by blankies. You're lucky the settlers didn't give you savages pillows too or you'd all be gone😂
(DIR) Post #ARySFiAudls5KnanMu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-24T16:48:43Z
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@EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt @bruja #OpenDiscussion requires we appear with open minds and treat other people as reasonable (to a point).If it devolves to nastiness, no one wins.In the meantime, the blankets story is fake.The Amerind civilizations in America had already failed by the time Europeans got here in large numbers.
(DIR) Post #ARySJUwVmOz7SBf732 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-24T16:49:26Z
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@EthanRalphsBifurcatedGunt @bruja However, we can use it as a historical lesson in why diversity is unsustainable in any form.
(DIR) Post #ARym4lHMl1KmrLfQHI by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-24T16:57:45.999587Z
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I am willing to hear out anyone with a presentable plan. They more they curse the plan, the more curious I am.Listening to the opposition is crucial.
(DIR) Post #ARym4ljj3a1GHIw4Tw by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-24T20:30:51Z
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@FourOh-LLC I agree, and maybe they are not opposition.Most people come up with ideas that help them make it through the night thinking that they have made roughly the right decisions in life.As a result, almost all of ideology is cope, projection, and socially popular ideas issued forth in a hope that the herd will not attack them.We need kings to protect us from the herd.
(DIR) Post #ARyr4PDxFzimEBimJM by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-24T21:08:57.890706Z
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But most importantly, I do not wish to argue if the USA should remain as is, or converted to a Kingdom. I am not qualified to argue.My purpose is to ensure people can argue about it. I might mute a few people here and there because I have been called a Ni**er or a Fa**ot one too many times and I got bored of it.But I would never deny or obstruct his ability to keep calling others any way he likes.
(DIR) Post #ARyr4Pi5Rxp9jdoqHI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-24T21:26:49Z
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@FourOh-LLC At this point, when people flame out I just read past it.The world is full of rage.I mute those who are totally irrelevant to what I am doing.
(DIR) Post #ARyr6FlZOMLZTSKEXA by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-24T21:01:02.980693Z
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For most part they are the opposition, indeed. For example, my involvement in COSA to bring them to Fediverse.The opposition to COSA is not because of Article V, but because people (rightfully) suspect that the Convention will be stolen. The Communists will use it to finish destroying the Constitution.COSA must take steps to ensure this cannot happen. They must entirely bypass Big Tech technology. For example, telling AWS "we do not need your Cloud, we built our own".Then removing some khm.. "donors" from the process. I am sure when people pay attention, they will spot a few who should be gently nudged out.Then, of course, make sure nothing that is controversial nonsense, such as ABORTION is included.etc.. etc..There are people who can handle the herd, and they can focus popular ideas such as "no more Bills that cannot be read out loud in less than 30 minutes, or not about a single issue". You better be able the fastest talking auctioneer for anything more than a few pages.
(DIR) Post #ARyr6GC9nVc8nulSyW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-24T21:27:10Z
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@FourOh-LLC It is a problem with power generally: once something has power, the usual neurotics will try to steal it.
(DIR) Post #ARyvAIaDGDYJBYCJu4 by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-24T22:12:05.477117Z
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I would support a State Convention if there purpose were to revoke UNITED STATES OF AMERICA's mandate to rule over them. But we're not ready for that yet.
(DIR) Post #ARyvHuM1E8eWMDBeJE by Koropokkur@poa.st
2023-01-24T22:14:06.159326Z
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@_skycaptain @amerika @FourOh-LLC I thought they were gonna do it for Obamaocare but nope.
(DIR) Post #ARyvbvKrHw6ZBzBkIK by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-24T22:16:54.597101Z
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Politicians just want to move up and away from the people they're supposed to represent, and they want access to the globalist shekels. Most won't change their mind without a bullet.
(DIR) Post #ARzJIYJ558yFATeXcu by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-24T22:41:24.790154Z
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Its your choice if you want to convince them of that.If you are a Debian expert, then you can help me to bring them to the Fediverse. "Them" means the region and the district captains. And argue your case with them.I am working with one of the Illinois region captains. I am going to have an hour presentation with the national IT team, to try and convince them to leave Google and switch to owner-operated instances of Nextcloud and federated instead of centralized documents and forums.I am just one guy, and there must be thousands to represent every region / district and every specialty - such as Fedi moderators, teleconferencing exerts, and all other stack they are used to on Google.Its busywork, and its working for free - so you better decide if you are happy with "donating" your time.I am doing my part there, and elsewhere. I am tired of talking about how to "get ready".Getting ready is building the capactiy to cut all the red tape.
(DIR) Post #ARzJIYsWxLKKwQEqsi by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-25T00:54:16.729848Z
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That's really cool. I don't think there's a political solution to humanities existential crisis, but I'm fascinated by those who do 😃
(DIR) Post #ARzJIZHhRlSaCU0x72 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T02:43:07Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC I think there is a solution to civilization decline and part of it is political.
(DIR) Post #ARzKLhhAjR916ozJQm by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T02:54:54Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC I do not think this is gonna happen.Yes, our federal government has overreached, but no, we cannot have a loose coalition.We will be unable to act decisively as a whole.
(DIR) Post #AS0NlKsIh7dqsl4D9E by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-25T07:26:02.383432Z
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Separating political activism from civic activity is one very important step. These liberal / socialist simpletons are political activist, and COSA is civic activity. Anyone without controversial fanatic agenda (like ABORTION UP TO BIRTH versus LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION) are welcome. Both extremes are extremely toxic and unproductive. COSA could help lower the temperature, and separate ideological mass hysteria from the rest.I have a plan, and a lot of other people I met on Fediverse has compatible plans to change direction. But again, I have only opinions and my personal preferences in this. My self-appointed purpose is to create and support MODERATED communication platforms that cannot be censored, blocked, shut down.If you have not heard of PKT.cash I would recommend to check it out. That is going to help me to create that communication platform. Hubzilla is anothe, which has out-of-box ActivityPub support, but its native protocol is Zot and Zap - and is immune to an atack on ActivityPub.yada yada etc. etc. I do not want to rant, but I am happy to share with those interested.
(DIR) Post #AS0NlLR2bxQmcVJxIW by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T15:07:51Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain That is an interesting distinction:* Political activism versus* Civic activismOpinion versus working with the system to improve it.
(DIR) Post #AS0Nu8q2oaGE9sD7R2 by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-23T11:54:17.107116Z
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@amerika @bruja OK. So, by beliefs I suppose we can include religions, right ? Let's take Christianity. It comes from the Old Testament, also known as Hebrew Bible. Christianity began as a Second Temple Judaic sect in the Roman Empire, and then was spread in Europe, Asia, and North Africa. The first Christian church was in Jerusalem. Does that mean that only Jerusalem can be Christian ? Do we have to ban Christianity in America, Europe, Asia, Africa, and all over the globe when it's not in Jerusalem ?Let's look at the Middle East a little more. So, there is three major religions that comes from there : Islam, Christianity, Judaism. Not that surprising when you see that they're all Abrahamic religions. Jerusalem is important for all of them. What is the organic religion of this place then ? There is also a bunch of other religions, like the Druze, which is based on Abrahamic beliefs, Greek philosophers, Buddhism, Hinduism, and others. It comes from Western Asia. Wait, I'm lost, this religion is supposed to be Middle Eastern, Greek, or something else ?I never said there wasn't any culture. I said that it's a perpetual mix of everything.
(DIR) Post #AS0Nu9RGaC2E1JcqS8 by Ana00000@spinster.xyz
2023-01-25T14:09:47.405961Z
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@amerika @bruja Did I say something stupid ? I would love to know what you think about it.
(DIR) Post #AS0Nu9xWeFq5dMibjc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T15:09:26Z
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@Ana00000 @bruja Internationalist religion is separate from culture, in my view.Cultures had their own religions before that, AND reinterpret internationalist religions within their own culture.One has to only look at Episcopalians versus large Mexican churches to see this.
(DIR) Post #AS0VxKgy00wpQJztDs by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-25T15:51:33.150192Z
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"civic activity". Activism is the "grassroots", and we see how every grassroots ends up to be a political movement. ANTIFA started out as a "grassroots", until it became a domestic terror organization.A typical American civic activity is joyride, backyard BBQ, armchair quarterbacking, or - building owner-operated networks and federate them.
(DIR) Post #AS0VxLAkDIlcufvfdY by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T16:39:39Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain Very good point.I do not think Antifa was ever grassroots though; it was always a branch of the Communist party.However, civic activity means that which promotes the civilization activity of a population. I would fit adding useful functions or institutions into that.
(DIR) Post #AS0ckWqoBJIn31RU5w by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-25T17:04:07.567185Z
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The Constitutional State Militia is such institution. The CSM is a civic, not a military, not a political, not an advocate, not any other kind grassroots or activism.The Gun Owners of America, the Illinois State Riffle Association are civic institutions, providing civic activates.I accept the fact that there is no clear line in many cases, my only point is that non-activist civic institutions exist. The activists love to label these institutions "right wing" because firearms involved. Not understanding that many of us grew up with guns, plinking, hunting. Instead of shitpoasting, owner-operated moderated networks should keep these in focus, would round and circle them, to end up with a product.
(DIR) Post #AS0dOCyJVgziyfsDKK by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-25T17:54:45.933941Z
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I was an alternate state delegate in Texas (was seated) when Ron Paul ran against Mittens the Apostate. The whole process of hierarchical caucuses is fascinating. The challenge I see is that the local assemblies don't really solve local problems - they end up being campaign organizations for upstream contests, so are both useless to locals and attractive to corrupt actors.
(DIR) Post #AS0mRmAtyviSc8XOG8 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-25T18:10:57.270992Z
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I have no concept of how "politics" work, I was never involved. I am a naturalized citizen, I did not grow up in the USA, and I prefer that natural-born citizens handle politics.On the technology level I have no problems creating and maintaining local focus, filtering out irrelevant topics and content.For example, property taxes are nailed down by school district - you cannot do anything else but to handle it on the local level. The upstream must not get involved at all.I have a friend who is super-focused on property taxes alone, and she helps moderating the corrupt actors who try to confuse or change the subject.
(DIR) Post #AS0mRmeKDXFg5OIt7Y by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T19:44:26Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain Except that the upstream has been intervening for years:https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/plyler_v_doe_%281982%29Same way your local hospital may close because of EMTALA costs.
(DIR) Post #AS0mVXKX7ErfjTps7U by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T19:45:07Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC Part of this is because the national level has invaded the local so much that the two are intertwined. We need some of that, but not as much as we have post-#14A.
(DIR) Post #AS0nW0g46SMChohFtA by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-25T19:53:01.341258Z
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I cannot handle bullshit like this level-headed so I am staying out of it.As Ann Coulter stated - these illegals are smart opportunists, they are not to be pitied.The #14 really screwed the USA, and even the COSA people admit that the SCOTUS is broken beyond repair.
(DIR) Post #AS0nW14AepdhuZyVSi by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T19:56:24Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain On the plus side, something being broken means it will eventually be replaced.It seems to me that the idea of the Supreme Court was a good one but that this should be something depoliticized.The Left has been legislating from the bench for a long time.
(DIR) Post #AS11tv97ichlrJaHT6 by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-25T21:26:31.916007Z
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something like SC (supreme court) might be fine with 0.01% of the volume of new crap becoming law. But rn, they only look at an insignificant sample of all legislation. Would be a lot different if they actually had to sign off on every new law or rule passed. That would be a hell of a lot more power and responsibility than they have now though.
(DIR) Post #AS11tvam3op5F4WMZE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-25T22:37:36Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC It would be interesting to incorporate them into the legislative process."Approve this, yes or no."However, common law evolved because of real world applications of law, not all of which were visible from the text.
(DIR) Post #AS1NFIvcaeZwjkJ3om by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-25T23:31:05.192578Z
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lol I'm trying to converse w/o just saying fed should be abolished - the founding father's "checks and balances" obviously have not worked well enough.
(DIR) Post #AS1NFJXCKwdWcHt4O8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T02:36:47Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC Either that or they worked too well and lulled people to sleep, allowing the Lincoln takeover.
(DIR) Post #AS2SVFUBqnnVcerFUe by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T10:24:16.104196Z
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Sitting in a circle just chatting between a few of us will not bring meaningful change. Creating another grassroots, and trying to convince others will not bring meaningful change. Joining already national and populous movements like COSA and TPUSA will not bring meaningful change.Everything steers off the course, and becomes compromised, and there are very specific reasons for why that is happening. One is hopefully going to be illustrated even evidenced by the https://omega4america.com project: they do not take donations.Donations bastardize most good intentions, it allows bad actors to enter and bastardize the goal and / or the process.Owner-operated networks, where many small members pay their own way, and come to an agreement on specific issues COULD do better.No grassroots, no agenda, no centralized efforts - only a principled, sustained, self-motivated effort from many small entities.
(DIR) Post #AS2SVFwCAgCP1Vxc92 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T15:10:23Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain Owner-operated collaborations fit within the original idea of America.Organizations are essential, and so even those will have to deal with the Power Problem.That is, someone will be in charge, and you have to pick someone good and have good someones around them to keep them in line.
(DIR) Post #AS2V5woCSGdyJpqPOS by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T15:39:21.079067Z
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corporations just channel the sociopaths up into the executive level - not a perfect solution :/
(DIR) Post #AS2VeqT61JZcn2c6wC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T15:45:45Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC The Peter Principle in action. Good executives fire such people.
(DIR) Post #AS2VhSTNgu3jEpzcsC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T15:46:13Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC The fallacy here is this:"Lots of corporations get this wrong, so I'll say 'corporations just do this' when in fact it is not a universal behavior."People are not equal.
(DIR) Post #AS2YRTvsnP8SzjOjFw by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T16:09:41.108607Z
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Owner-operated networks, purpose-built, are a brand-new sort.With the GDPR rising, then with assault on open debate (NOT Free Speech, but simply on moderated, civil-toned OPEN DEBATE), and with all the deception oozing from the MSM they are coming to age.I am maturing my concepts about this for over a decade.This is truly something which deserve my attention, and further development.A lot of people suspect, understand what the issues are, and some people have some proposals, solutions.These owner-operated networks are perfect for the purposes of validating or voiding issues and proposals.
(DIR) Post #AS2YRUWkaKcsq4eAim by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T16:16:56Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain "moderated, civil-toned OPEN DEBATE"This, I would like.We need to have free speech without constantly getting assaulted by rage and slurs.Those detract from the discussion.
(DIR) Post #AS2ZUrI0Vo3SG1v7wG by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T16:26:49.938556Z
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the process happens naturally, without intent or coordination, so it has to be taken into account. Obviously operates in politics too, as well as in the corporate churches.
(DIR) Post #AS2ZUrsALMyi4Aq0Ia by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T16:28:45Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC This is what I dubbed #Crowdism: in groups, humans defer to the group, instead of keeping an eye on the affirmative goal. They look at negative goals instead of positive ones.It is a force like entropy, but that does not mean that it cannot be resisted, simply that we never have recognized it and had the will to do so.
(DIR) Post #AS2ZZKYDf0byAWdUAK by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T16:27:48.072967Z
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how dare you!?!?
(DIR) Post #AS2ZZL6bbA7JtAiwlM by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T16:29:34Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC Good point: outrage behavior is also not very helpful.Poor Greta.
(DIR) Post #AS2r2m4O7iMf8TJAky by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T16:36:57.427829Z
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That can be turned upside down, where individuals are spontaneously gravitate towards the center.This is what's happening to us in this moment. We are not discussing a central theme, and agenda which has collected us.We are still trying to find it.
(DIR) Post #AS2uhgKmeWRH5BAuRM by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T16:39:31.036890Z
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"Courage is to be scared to death, and still saddle up".
(DIR) Post #AS2ujXK385BNiCiRlI by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T20:26:43Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain Sometimes, it is all we have, our courage. The courage to say what is true and act toward what is good.
(DIR) Post #AS2vrmR2vLRar2U1nE by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T20:39:25Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain Any hierarchy reverses Crowdism.However, the problem now is a lack of agreement on just about anything, even minimums.
(DIR) Post #AS2xAZ390zaKnQpASe by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T20:47:02.851149Z
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"lack of agreement on just about anything, even minimums."Let us test it:"Any Bill must bring a single issue, and cannot exceed 30 minutes reading it out loud".Who agrees with that, who want to change the phrasing, gut it out, or sneak in some backdoors?
(DIR) Post #AS2xAZV9KrzECHvX72 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T20:54:00Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain I do not see it often, although there are lots of people raving about term limits.
(DIR) Post #AS2yN0tVPocaaFoeIa by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T20:58:04.208300Z
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What do you think?@amerika
(DIR) Post #AS2yN1SxI0ygMCOxYO by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T21:07:28Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain It's wide open to interpretation."Single issue" = "saving America's future."Limiting laws to one page might not be bad either, only if it was also retroactive.4k page laws are useless.
(DIR) Post #AS2ybcXsE5eBPWfAMi by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T21:08:54.744707Z
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term limits are an acknowledgement that the system is [completely] broken.
(DIR) Post #AS2ybczAabTumBQxua by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T21:10:06Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC Not only that, but would fail to fix the problem (people would simply rotate between offices and private industry) and backfire by removing anyone competent.
(DIR) Post #AS2yuJtZn4fH4SjMbQ by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T21:11:38.517293Z
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I would rather just list all the issues with it, such as:- Term limits affect both "good" and "bad" politicans.- Term limits will not limit a bad politican from doing harm.I think the "debate" would be if we want to take "term limits" off the table, permanently. Or if we want to develop it into something else.
(DIR) Post #AS2yuKOPwPKoc79zfs by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T21:13:28Z
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@FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain Roughly the same argument.I would like to take term limits off the table.I have a few suggestions myself, but most involve restoring the pre-1865 Constitution.This would fix many of our problems.
(DIR) Post #AS30ZR3CBzy55bOofQ by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T21:18:32.447766Z
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Well, the idea of term limits is not superbly functional either...
(DIR) Post #AS30ZRUUYVnoSGAcDI by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T21:23:15.474837Z
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> term limitsbut the reasons people are interested in it are still important. I'm a software developer - sometimes people ask for a feature because they think it will solve a problem they're having, but they don't tell us the problem.
(DIR) Post #AS30ZRtf2vw3iJwiRc by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T21:32:06Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC Their perception is that certain Pelosi/McConnell clowns occupy office for decades.The problem is that the machinery that keeps them in power is behind the scenes.
(DIR) Post #AS310wdIsUvqrKPEA4 by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-26T21:25:36.970539Z
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Well then... term limits is a feature-creep :D
(DIR) Post #AS310xCkkhHwdGzXPs by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T21:28:13.767784Z
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term limits is a script to restart all the linux servers nightly while leaving ms windows servers to their own devices 🤣
(DIR) Post #AS310xnyWJ3wUiPGQy by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T21:37:04Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC As far as I can tell, at this point most Windows machines exist just to download updates.
(DIR) Post #AS31SZTcZ81P9M3BOS by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T21:39:08.797813Z
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right, the problem is that "power corrupts". But I think this ultimately has to be solved at the individual level. Like, I personally need to not crave power. But then I won't want to erect a powerful state at all :/
(DIR) Post #AS31SZxOmPqCdhyxo8 by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-26T21:42:05Z
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@_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC The bottom line is that some people seek power to abuse it, and others avoid it unless they need it in order to keep the first group from having it.
(DIR) Post #AS32gW6O0eRQgwOcS0 by _skycaptain@nicecrew.digital
2023-01-26T21:47:46.225744Z
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Well there are a couple of options for removing someone who's abusing their power. You can replace them with someone who doesn't want the job, but also won't abuse it, or you can kill them (in minecraft, obviously.) The second option is more practical, but obviously makes organizing more dangerous.
(DIR) Post #ASZDyYKwssayWxTXFI by charliebrownau@pieville.net
2023-02-11T10:33:05Z
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@amerika You wont get power at NationalState or Council LevelThe ONLY SOLUTION isLocalismSelf SegerationSelf SeperationCommunityCommonalityGatekeepingSelf DefenseThe ((( STATE ))) will never let whites reclaim their homeland
(DIR) Post #AU8wV9dFr4R6moa3ay by avalon@ravenation.club
2023-03-30T13:58:59Z
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@amerika https://www.youtube.com/live/cwsv3pGXn_s?feature=share
(DIR) Post #AU8whwEsxf870sHICu by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-03-30T14:01:18Z
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@avalon One of the better ones, still sounds like Cirith Ungol after a coffee binge.Of course, I admit a weakness for Queensryche... and some later Therion.
(DIR) Post #AU8wnaItQgIcieqR2u by avalon@ravenation.club
2023-03-30T14:02:18Z
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@amerika Me, comprende Gaelic nicht
(DIR) Post #AU8zih29HPys0SN7QG by avalon@ravenation.club
2023-03-30T14:35:00Z
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@amerika Roger that, 40:1
(DIR) Post #AUwlkSnqbXjUil9jo8 by Vedrfolnir@berserker.town
2023-04-23T14:28:36Z
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@_skycaptain @amerika @FourOh-LLC if things stay the same as they are now, there will be a convention of states, and that makes me smile(I’m from the southeast).
(DIR) Post #AUwlkTh9Hvy7UH1u0O by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-04-23T14:54:04Z
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@Vedrfolnir @_skycaptain @FourOh-LLC Possibly a good thing, although at this point, the real enemy is that no one knows what they want or what is better.They keep following these cope notions like the Benedict Option or Utopian notions like equality (the opposite of quality).
(DIR) Post #AUwlyDBNTgnYKSiYls by Vedrfolnir@berserker.town
2023-04-23T14:56:31Z
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@amerika @FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain we tried preserving the original constitution in the 1860’s, they went to war over it and it has never really ended, it’s just not a hot war anymore.
(DIR) Post #AUwm6b6OQfmmpaNvCC by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-04-23T14:58:04Z
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@Vedrfolnir @FourOh-LLC @_skycaptain The unresolved issues remain, and the #14A has become their means of permanent leadership.
(DIR) Post #AUwpaoCaaWl60fNeQy by moffintosh@berserker.town
2023-04-23T15:37:09Z
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@amerika Restore the kingsWe should have chpped the heads of the do-nothing worms
(DIR) Post #AXheHgr5zJO9GXVPcG by gordoooo_z@borkr.one
2023-07-14T23:20:40.917143Z
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@amerika What the actual fuck
(DIR) Post #AXheHhWZV6Z7LAuXGT by amerika@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-15T01:26:03Z
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@gordoooo_z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9tO8LdLBI&pp=1788Blood turning black, the change has begunFeeling the hatred of all damned in HellFlesh starts to burn, twist and deformEyes dripping blood realization of deathTransforming of five toes to twoLearn the sacred words of praise, hail Satanhttp://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/slayer/reigninblood.html#4