Post ARvGFmFLikMj2Q3L0a by rattlersix@ieji.de
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 (DIR) Post #ARv5AovXEEgmPKDcVk by ErrataRob@infosec.exchange
       2023-01-23T01:32:16Z
       
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       Your regular reminder that "died suddenly" is still not a thing. People aren't dying suddenly any different than before (from drug overdoses, undiagnosed heart problems, etc.).Instead, people see patterns where there are none. It's the basis of astrology.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARv5ApcQel04YMHsMy by Phil@freeatlantis.com
       2023-01-23T01:46:00Z
       
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       @ErrataRob you need to look at the data.  Died suddenly is NOT running at normal levels.  More athletes died suddenly in the last year than in the previous 10 years combined.  And many countries are investigating the vax and the increase in death rates, including Japan.  This idea may bring you comfort but it is fantasy.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARvGFmFLikMj2Q3L0a by rattlersix@ieji.de
       2023-01-23T03:50:05Z
       
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       @Phil @ErrataRobWhere is the data?It's not this is it?https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccines-athlete-deaths-1500-989195878254
       
 (DIR) Post #ARvisxNJ4q3DYvFHCy by Phil@freeatlantis.com
       2023-01-23T09:10:59Z
       
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       @rattlersix @ErrataRob life insurance companies are putting it out and several other places.  This article is fake news because it twists the info implying that only heart problems are related to the vax when in fact cancer deaths are also significantly elevated among vaxed people but not among unvaxed.  It doesn't just greatly increase the chances of heart problems it also damages the immune system.  Even the cdc data showed elevated death of vaxed b4 they stopped publishing it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARvohGtdGqLqMBB1Wa by ParanoidFactoid@mastodon.social
       2023-01-23T01:49:52Z
       
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       @ErrataRob I think there's something else going on. #COVID looks like it may be a whole lot worse than we initially believed, especially on repeat reinfections.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARvohHfUOudGkbZF7Q by nosat@liberdon.com
       2023-01-23T10:16:06Z
       
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       @ParanoidFactoid @ErrataRob there sure is somehting else going on
       
 (DIR) Post #ARwQTjEQv5IqRRsLCa by rattlersix@ieji.de
       2023-01-23T17:19:25Z
       
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       @Phil @ErrataRob So, this? https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-692312045885Sorry to just post similar fact checks but that's all I find without getting into right wing tik toks and compact sites that I am absolutely never going to trust
       
 (DIR) Post #ARwSgvaWUT5aR9d5Yu by Phil@freeatlantis.com
       2023-01-23T17:44:14Z
       
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       @rattlersix @ErrataRob the New England journal of Medicine has some stuff in it. And the government health services of Sweden found enough data to ban the vaccine for males under 30. They have avoided the spike in heart problems in young males.  There is no slam dunk either way but plenty of reason to question.   Problem is 2 groups.  One pushed the vax and is vested in its success, the other sounded outrageous alarms so is vested in its failure.  Few neutrals are yet examining it.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARwTMPLYklMCbYPSK0 by Phil@freeatlantis.com
       2023-01-23T17:51:44Z
       
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       @rattlersix @ErrataRob the bias in this article is pretty obvious.  The fact that many things may have contributed to the elevated death rate does not falsify the hypothesis that the vax is contributing to it too.  You can't get the facts from the press.  Both the right wing press and the left leaning press have an agenda.  If you read the docs that the cdc wanted to keep sealed for 75 years but were forced to release by the courts its obvious that their own data contradicts their statements.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARwUWhSGNlqTcG161o by rattlersix@ieji.de
       2023-01-23T18:04:46Z
       
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       @Phil @ErrataRob The thing is, you keep saying there's data that shows something and when asked, you don't have the data, you just say insurance companies are talking about it. So I look and find that this is what insurance companies are saying. And you other reply is the same thing, I'll address it there..
       
 (DIR) Post #ARwUhOewbUvqVa35LE by rattlersix@ieji.de
       2023-01-23T18:06:43Z
       
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       @Phil @ErrataRob You said Sweden banned the vaccine in men under 30 because of a spike in heart problems. No, they paused the Moderna vaccine in everyone under 30 because the same rare cases of heart inflammation we all heard about. You say the New England Journal of Medicine has data on it. Well, they have tons of information about covid and vaccines, I don't know where to look. But they recommend getting the vaccineb right there on their main covid page, so do I even need to look further?
       
 (DIR) Post #ARwUkejBJoLXDDaJzU by Phil@freeatlantis.com
       2023-01-23T18:07:20Z
       
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       @rattlersix @ErrataRob yes.  Sorry.  I have reviewed much data but I didn't keep it.  I could find it all again but I'm at work and can't spend that kind of time.  Like I said, its enough to raise questions and discredit much of what is being said, but there is nothing to prove it either way.