Post ARoDX5MyDQcLIhSYm8 by mte90@mastodon.uno
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(DIR) Post #ARoDR6bKiufHNoKI9g by carlschwan@floss.social
2023-01-19T10:50:17Z
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And this is why I can't take AppImages seriously https://github.com/probonopd/linuxdeployqt/pull/540
(DIR) Post #ARoDSFOhVLkMxBxhp2 by bugaevc@floss.social
2023-01-19T12:01:02Z
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@carlschwan #DoNotInstallWayland 😄
(DIR) Post #ARoDSHU5kHFPQUV2VF by eXtrem0us@mastodon.cloud
2023-01-19T14:22:38Z
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@bugaevc @carlschwan Just in case, The maintenance of XServer is officially stopped.I'm not a Wayland fan though.
(DIR) Post #ARoDSI75PIRJNQkBHc by bugaevc@floss.social
2023-01-19T15:09:12Z
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@eXtrem0us @carlschwan oh, I should probably spell out the context 🙂I *am* a Wayland fan. "do not install wayland" is a hashtag that me and @alatiera have jokingly started a while back to refer to AppImage creator's stance on Wayland, and a direct quote from their post https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277.Of course, Wayland being a protocol, the phrase "do not install Wayland" means about as much as "do not install HTTP".
(DIR) Post #ARoDUX1uuztcDeOW1Y by mte90@mastodon.uno
2023-01-19T10:52:33Z
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@carlschwan looking at https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277 there are really concerns about Wayland
(DIR) Post #ARoDUXMpfEctGWBDcm by carlschwan@floss.social
2023-01-19T10:57:52Z
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@mte90 I'm using Wayland full time and most of the things this page mention do work (e.g. screensharing). This page is mostly FUD.
(DIR) Post #ARoDV03L0nGQESHYlU by RobLoach@fosstodon.org
2023-01-19T12:12:24Z
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@carlschwan @mte90 The way it's phrased is also pretty aggressive. "Wayland broke ____"... A more productive sentence could be "in order to have ___ work on Wayland, we need to...."
(DIR) Post #ARoDWgPb0WrZtbUntg by no_name@kolektiva.social
2023-01-19T10:58:13Z
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@mte90 @carlschwan Yes, because it's still a relatively new software compared to xorg but that's no reason to ignore it, especially if it's about compatibility issues with a package format!
(DIR) Post #ARoDWh7COPk24ptcrQ by mte90@mastodon.uno
2023-01-19T11:00:37Z
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@no_name @carlschwan @carlschwan maybe it's not updated (checked some bug ticket) if there are concerns about wayland that can break stuff I see that a problem.Anyway I don't use wayland on my machine because I want to be sure that everything works.My Steam Deck instead use Wayland and I remember that there are issues with the on-screen keyboard.
(DIR) Post #ARoDWheAPq73j5JxFQ by carlschwan@floss.social
2023-01-19T12:03:38Z
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@mte90 @no_name Your steam deck is very probably using Xorg, ironically this is also why the on-screen keyboard doesn't work. This is an almost solved problem on Wayland.
(DIR) Post #ARoDX5MyDQcLIhSYm8 by mte90@mastodon.uno
2023-01-19T12:05:45Z
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@carlschwan @no_name I read somewhere that Steam Deck uses Wayland and stuck on that opinion, I should check on desktop mode. If I remember I will do tonight.
(DIR) Post #ARoDX5vM9a7h1LY1NA by carlschwan@floss.social
2023-01-19T12:06:53Z
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@mte90 @no_name The desktop mode is using Xorg, the gaming mode is using Wayland but it's a custom and very minimal compositor, so it only supports full screen apps.
(DIR) Post #ARoDXypa0lBNJMGgVM by bugaevc@floss.social
2023-01-19T15:18:26Z
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@carlschwan @mte90 @no_name AFAIK the SteamOS compositor (gamescope) only uses Wayland for talking to XWayland; it unsets WAYLAND_DISPLAY and sets XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11. All of the actual games work through XWayland.See e.g. https://github.com/Plagman/gamescope/issues/543Why are they doing it that way, I have no idea.