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(DIR) Post #ARjI3McR2vSi5kXZoW by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T01:18:42Z
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I am genuinely interested to understand how can a scientist claim that the new mRNA vaccine technology is 100% safe and doesn’t have any significant long term health effects?There is a clear bias in the scientific community, pharmaceutical companies and public health authorities to push one simplistic narrative that the mRNA vaccine is safe and effective. Any dissenting opinion questioning the mRNA vaccine safety or efficacy is labeled idiot, conspiracy theorist and anti-vax.This toxic scientific debate climate makes critical data gathering and research challenging. Most career driven scientists, medical doctors or researchers don’t want to go against the main narrative and lose their credentials and livelihood.Questioning the safety and efficacy of mRNA vaccines represent a threat to the institutions mandating and advocating for that technology. A threat that might lead to vaccine hesitancy, lost in credibility, lost of financial revenue and legal liability.There are few brave scientists with a good track records of scientific research, publications and citations. I can’t name them all, these are a few top ones that I followed their work on this topic: Dr. Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPHhttps://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/https://rumble.com/v218tu4-dr.-mccullough-with-joe-rogan-pandemic-grand-rounds-for-the-public.html Dr. Robert Malone MD, MShttps://rwmalonemd.substack.com/https://rumble.com/v1f45vl-dr-robert-malone-parents-before-you-inject-your-child-with-the-covid-vaccin.html Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, DVMhttps://substack.com/profile/57302394-geert-vanden-bosschehttps://rumble.com/v17vsl5-why-you-never-mass-vaccinate-into-a-pandemic-monkeypox-and-a-better-way-gee.html Dr. Claire Craighttps://twitter.com/ClareCraigPathhttps://rumble.com/v19pf5z-dr.-claire-craig-exposes-fraudulant-phizer-covid-drug-trials.html Dr Aseem Malhotrahttps://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotrahttps://rumble.com/v22t192-dr.-aseem-malhotra-promoted-mrna-vaccine-now-warns-of-heart-risks-w-dr-kell.html Steve Kirschhttps://stevekirsch.substack.com/https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/exclusive-proof-that-the-top-israeliThere is a clear signal form various public heath safety reporting data bases and scientific research that show an increase risk of Myocarditis after the mRNA injections: Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccine against Covid-19 in Israel https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2109730 Cardiogenic shock revealing myocarditis after mRNA vaccination against covid-19: Case report and brief review for the first case in Morocco https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8716151/ The Pfizer Inoculations Do More Harm Than Goodhttps://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.htmlMyocarditis is one advert event among many that Pfizer own clinical trials has revealed even before vaccine mass deployment. CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021 https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9428332/ I can’t personally ignore or dismiss renown scientific researchers and medical doctors warnings regarding the vaccine safety and efficacy. I am not against vaccines in general, they truly save lives.I am strongly against vaccine mandates and vaccine passports, especially since the #mRNA vaccines were never tested or designed to stop the #covid19 transmission. Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037.long https://rumble.com/v1nhawe-pfizer-director-admits-vaccine-was-never-tested-on-preventing-transmission..html I don’t want to live in a future dystopian technocracy were the state controls all aspects of my life, I am pro choice, liberty and informed consent.I hope that everyone that took the mRNA shots are and will be alright.@freemo Dr. Freemo if you reading up to this, I hope you consider the scientific research I shared here, and acknowledge the concerns that some people have regarding the mRNA vaccines.#COVID #COVID19 #mrna #vaccine #transmission #infection
(DIR) Post #ARjI3NDIpqx7w5n1HM by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T09:13:44Z
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@voidabyss Now this post is definately starting to encroach on unacceptable conspiracy theory territory. Simply having links to articles and papers in an of itself isnt enough (especially when those papers dont make your core point, which is supported by largely opinion pieces.Few things:1) No one claimed there arent rare adverse effects, there are certainly rare, but authentic cases. But they are exceedingly rare compared to any risks from the diseases, to the point of being insignificant in the bigger picture.2) random individuals with opinions, regardless of their credentials, is not remotely acceptable evidence compared to overwhelming scientific consensusIn the past ive been ok with your post because as I said the last one did address authentic open-questions about COVID. This one does not, it addresses a well established consensus and does so using bad-faith arguments that are quite transparent to anyone operating in a STEM capacity,Keep in mind this has crossed the line into conspiracy theoty at this point. Please consider this a warning to back it up. If you wish to post anti-Vaccine, covid or otherwise, content this isnt the place unless you have an informed argument to make, which you dont seem to have in this post.
(DIR) Post #ARjIQs6c94KIPGrkdU by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T09:18:00Z
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@voidabyssFor the record I am against forced vaccination, and dont mind you debating the philosophical or legal concerns around this.But dont confuse my stance with anti-vax. Obviously I think you’re an idiot not to get vaccinated (especially when they have non-mRNA vaccines for you to pick so its not like its even an issue). But I also think that bodily autonomy is sacred and people have a right to be idiots.
(DIR) Post #ARjJmkDqEhrAHWEwqG by Pierrette@mastodon.uno
2023-01-17T09:33:10Z
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@freemo @voidabyss I humbly remark that in a country with a National Health sistem like Italy being an idiot means that we collectivley have to pay for the cures due to the illness caused by individual idiocy...so with prudence and balance State as a Community of citizens has the right to plan vaccinations when indispensable towards public health
(DIR) Post #ARjK4oxdMByEBsHKiG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T09:36:26Z
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@Pierrette As I said, bodily autonomy is sacred and trumps any practical arguments.When we start arguing for the collective good over ones right to do with their body what they want we start getting into all sorts of crooked paths. Might as well force people to get abortions to keep the population in check, or make it illegal to go out in the sun because skin cancern means we all have to pay for your treatments... it isnt an ethical counterargument IMO.@voidabyss
(DIR) Post #ARjKazyfvrCJcp6poO by Pierrette@mastodon.uno
2023-01-17T09:42:15Z
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@freemo @voidabyss Well I am conscious of the many pitfalls of the idea of "collective good" but also riled when an important planned surgery is postponed because hospital are full of very ill unvaxxed people... all of this payd by my taxes...
(DIR) Post #ARjKppQRRmShF4AUBE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T09:44:54Z
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@Pierrette Noi argument that unvaxxed people arent a problem, and that the problem hurts everyone financially and in other ways... But the solution isnt to throw bodily autonomy out the window (in fact if you do so you will likely make the problem worse and cause more people not to get vaccinated out of protest).The solution is to educate and address the problem with other means, which int he end will likely do far more to address the problem anyway.@voidabyss
(DIR) Post #ARjL2bMb2ZyjOUSb8y by Pierrette@mastodon.uno
2023-01-17T09:47:14Z
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@freemo @voidabyss Elegant solution, being an educator I absolutely agree.
(DIR) Post #ARjM33d82tsT11yTTs by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2023-01-17T09:58:31.942510Z
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@freemo @voidabyss >people have a right to be idiots."a live dog is better off than a dead lion" (Ecclesiastes 9:4)
(DIR) Post #ARjPCHw6Wd2bqzwXVw by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2023-01-17T10:33:48.993707Z
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@freemo @voidabyss https://www.academia.edu/44825931/Shomer_Pesaim_Hashem_God_Watches_the_Fools_and_the_Novel_Coronavirus שֹׁמֵר פְּתָאיִם יְהוָה https://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt26b6.htm
(DIR) Post #ARjTcaDTa9bXtWrXcG by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T11:23:19Z
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@freemo well then go get your vax but don't call names on others. Are you a Doctor? If not, keep your medical advises at bay and stfu
(DIR) Post #ARjW2uSd8VVW7RdFB2 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T11:50:31Z
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@2T2 One better, I am a research scientist who works explicitly on COVID.. so thanks, glad I have your permission.
(DIR) Post #ARjj0xwkVJBvks7hg0 by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T14:15:53Z
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@freemo The scientific consensus evolves/improve over time by making observations, data gathering, forming hypothesis, analysis and open honest scientific debate.How many times a scientific consensus has been disproven partially or completely by a small group of scientists that eventually get vindicated?I am a little bit shocked and disappointed by your response as you deemed that I am spreading conspiracy theories.I can’t engage in a productive conversation with you based on that premise.I never mentioned my vaccination status, and you called me an idiot for not getting vaccinated, even though I got the Sinopharm shots to comply with #covid19 vaccination mandate.Thank you Dr. Freemo for this platform #qoto and have a good day.
(DIR) Post #ARjjQ31SlhuqjnHvPc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T14:20:23Z
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@voidabyss My use of “your” in thsi case was a general statement.. not worded very well but the intention was not to imply you specifically werent vaccinated.. I meant to say I think anyone who doesnt get vaccinated outside of a few fringe medical reasons are idiots.As for how often scientific consensus is proven wrong… quite rarely in the modern era, youd have to go back before our generation to start finding any significant examples really
(DIR) Post #ARjm73p5rrmVa48lGa by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T14:50:35Z
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@freemo Every generation deem it-self as modern era going back to the Greek civilization and beyond.Reading about Electromagnetism, how the scientific consensus evolved through out the centuries and still ongoing is quite fascinating and humbling.
(DIR) Post #ARjmhuqAEDLQR5DNfk by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T14:57:12Z
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@voidabyss There are people alive in the world who both existed before humans ever learned to fly AND witnessed us land on the moon. Comparing modern scientific progress with the past is not even remotely comparible interms of progress. Buy comparison there was a 5,000 year gap between inventing writing and inventing the printing press.
(DIR) Post #ARjoTqyfzc6MJHcQEq by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T15:17:04Z
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@freemo does not smell just a lil', but nothing extraordinary.. , like a mild case of conflict of interest? :thinkingwright: You say about you/your work, yeah OK so what? These kinda recursive logic where someone says about himself he's a good boy, in my book smells miles away as a not so mild case of infatuation. :thinkingwright: Some worked in the past to invent asbestos but that doesn't make them any less catastrophically stupid.Calling people idiots cos they don't take your science sauce COS YOU MADE IT doesn't sound very scientific. :thinkingwright: Science has more failures than advancements lately cos a bunch of arrogant normies who think they can Science in fact have just a bag of unverified hypothesis which more and more over time proved to be real catastrophes for people lives. How the heck vaccines were of any good if people vaxed up by the billions and the pandemic still took 2-3 years and counting as if was Influenza back in 1918? How the he'll is that a good outcome? :thinkingwright: And why vax technology keeps changing while all vax are considered what in physics is the 'perfect gas'? If it's perfect then why change it? :thinkingwright: You guys better fix your logic cracks and fractures and only after come and call us idiots 24/7 :thinkingwright: :thinkingwright:
(DIR) Post #ARjojpybTzsVq2CrD6 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T15:19:59Z
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@2T2 Man you must have gotten some wiplash from that 180 you just did... So I can only have an opinion if Im a doctor.. but if im a doctor who has devoted his work to COVID, then its a confict of interest and I cant talk either... lololol
(DIR) Post #ARjrntvB3ez55rEVto by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T15:54:21Z
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@freemo I am not comparing scientific progress, I am comparing the scientific mindset e.g. Hippocratic Oath “First do no harm” ~400 BC which is still relevant to this day.
(DIR) Post #ARjsF2caop7xtaTw5g by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T15:59:14Z
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@voidabyss I ne er claimed scientific consensus never changed, thats very different than thr picture you suggest where change to the scientific consensus required an individual proposing such change to be in a small minority. Most change is not met with much hostility, assuming the argument has been made correctly.Take einstein, he proposed a pretty fubdemental and craxy soubdibg proposal but he was met almost immediately with interest and consideration by the majority if the great minds in his field.
(DIR) Post #ARjw8pLvdeBgp2yntA by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T16:42:58Z
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@freemo Albert Einstein has faced tremendous challenges not only in this career as a pioneer physicist but also due to his Jewish origin.Many medical doctors are in fear to lose their job or medical license if they report adverse events or speak against the “scientific consensus”.Since you deemed questioning the scientific consensus borderline conspiracy theory, I don’t see the point continuing that conversation.
(DIR) Post #ARjwMhU9gZlUTbRW6q by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T16:45:26Z
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@voidabyss As i explained its not about simply questioning the scientific consesus. Its the fact that you did so in a way that seemed to be both uneducated on the subject and and yet assertive.
(DIR) Post #ARjxtO297yo1esUY3E by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T17:02:34Z
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@freemoNope you just want a bigger salary that's bout itWtf I have to explain all this shit to you, really?You didn't hear about conflict of interest?You think those guys that work at a Casino can play there and win millions?Wtf 180 are you dreaming doc?Wake t f up
(DIR) Post #ARjxxS2YAorZF6cQfQ by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T17:03:19Z
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@freemo I am not asserting anything, I asked an open question and brought dissenting opinion to the main narrative based on ever-evolving scientific research and renown scientists perspective on the matter.If you don’t like my approach that’s fine, but find your responses very condescending.I already stated there is no point continuing this conversation.
(DIR) Post #ARjyPNyWsclqkC3frU by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T17:08:21Z
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@voidabyss I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, which is why the post is allowed of course.But no this isnt the way to do that.. pointing to some fringe doctors isnt the way to do that.. show well researched science that either passed or should have passed peer review and then you can have a good scientific conversation.
(DIR) Post #ARjzN8Le6u77eVMR8a by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T17:19:09Z
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@2T2
(DIR) Post #ARk00WDFJgO8xcDD4y by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T17:26:15Z
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@2T2 And just so you know WHY you just sound like more and more of an idiot each time you talk.. 1) I have funded my own research and get no grants or donations to continue my work, nor am I asking for any... So everything you said is nonsense right off the bat.2) If vaccines turned out to be harmful or a hoax then it would **benefit** my research, so if I have any conflict of interest it would be in wanting to discredit vaccines, not the other way around.
(DIR) Post #ARk3kMWjxWlG6Xsk4m by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T18:08:10Z
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@freemo Your wasting everybody's time with your forever blooming stories. You're good at telling fairy tales. I'm not even going into your no.2 convoluted headache gibberish.
(DIR) Post #ARk3qu3iCYmNq5QICG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T18:09:21Z
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@2T2 All things you could verify yourself if you cared.. but not suprised at all you just assume things are fiction when they disagree with you rather than bothering to do even the slightest hint of research.
(DIR) Post #ARk4XwUv0foxr4fh0y by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T18:17:07Z
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@freemo Don't you think when you call million of peoples idiots you have to put some if not all documentation and proofs attached about what the f you're shillin'? How you examine your patients just by guessing in their coffees?
(DIR) Post #ARk4x1DeamxrjpYMUa by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T18:21:39Z
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@2T2 Examine patients? What are you on about. I told you what I do and it has nothing to do with patients... That lack of reading comprehension might be part of your problem.Someone needs to present that evidence, and has been, countless times... Do I feel a need to repeat what has done many times over already... nope. Plus if your that stupid it means you never even attempted good-faith research, so me presenting it for you is almost certainly going to fall on deaf ears.
(DIR) Post #ARk5zh0AJiqZrE5DCC by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T18:33:21Z
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@freemo Have you even bothered to read my post or look up the scientists I mentioned? Dr. Peter A McCullough, MD, MPH Citations 67165 h-index 122 i10-index 492https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LzqEaOkAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao Dr. Robert W Malone, MD Citations 13671 h-index 32 i10-index 53 https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=Jf1bApYAAAAJ Dr. Aseem Malhotra 21 Publications 591 Citationshttps://www.researchgate.net/profile/Aseem-Malhotra I know how to determine the experts in the subject matter and the fringe doctors. Jeffrey Phillips Freeman Citations 29 h-index 2 i10-index 2https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=Gbd9WfgAAAAJ As for peer reviewed research papers there are plenty in my original post: Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccine against Covid-19 in Israel https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2109730 Cardiogenic shock revealing myocarditis after mRNA vaccination against covid-19: Case report and brief review for the first case in Morocco https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8716151/ Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9428332/ Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037.long
(DIR) Post #ARk6ZiJAw7rYKp9QLQ by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T18:39:50Z
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@freemoWhat exactly vaxine you innovated?And what's so surprising when your asked about your patients?If you're into research that doesn't mean you don't have patients or subjects or whatever you call them, idiots or I don't know.
(DIR) Post #ARk7XPLcYnt8u9l8U4 by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T18:50:31Z
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@2T2 @freemo @freemo I normally don't intervene in matters like this, however unfortunately I have to in this case.@2T2 you are out of line right now.I've been very patience with your posting for the past year, despite it majority of the time not being technology related, and it being $current_event $current_war $current_news $current_vaccine and I've largely given you a pass provided that you keep it on your profile and not invade remote instances or get into spats with other users.However right now you are not in your lane, and you are arguing with the admin of qoto.He's not going to convince you, you are not going to convince him. Either agree to disagree and move on with your day, or go make an alt account on noagenda or someplace else.
(DIR) Post #ARk83rcB02ctq8ylcm by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T18:56:29Z
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@voidabyssWhen did I say the scientists havent been published? I said you should be arguing with credible studies that make your case, the opinion of a few scientists with exceedinly fringe opinions is not a credible way to argue.. WHO says it isnt what matters if you want to go agains the consensus, the argument you can make (the studies) are what matters.Now lets address your studies.. All of them show that there is some, very small, risks associated with vaccines (this was never in dispute).. but to claim they are dangerous is a huge leap, nor supported by anything you posted.You only posted 3 actual studies, none of which actually agree with anything you said. In fact they all show the vaccine to be exceedingly safe. They do point out actual adverse effects, sure, but thats about as far as it goes, none of it suggests any of the known adverse effects pose any significant risk .The one exception here is pfizer, which is still perfectly safe but a bit less so than the others. For this reason it is not recommended as a first choice for vaccines. Thus how/when it is administered is still with consideration of these risks and perfectly safe.
(DIR) Post #ARk9TdoP2ZwoVyYNDk by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T19:12:21Z
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@splitshockvirus Thanks for that.Just to be clear I dont mind people disagreeing with me or even arguing points, no matter how idiotic they may be.The problem I have with this dude is the bad-faith way he argues which resembles a troll more than a respectful debate.Its the lack of productivity and the inability to even attempt being productive combined with the absurdity that is troubling IMO.That said I am extremely more tolerant than your typical admin and I think if he acts this way with any other server admin it would stand a good chance of getting your server suspended. So I do understand your concern, just wanted to let you know I'm pretty easy going with this stuff is all.@2T2
(DIR) Post #ARk9kLtWuTcbrsv62q by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T19:15:23Z
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@voidabyss The reason im taking this all on good faith and arguing with you and not classifying it under conspiracy theory from a moderation perspective is… well, good faith. For now I am assuming you read the papers, heard some scary language, and reacted as a lay person.. I am assuming you simply didnt understand that the papers you read verified the safety of the vaccine overall and thus am willing to discuss and hoping I can knock some sense into you that way,. At the very least after this conversation you cant blame a lack of understanding for your misinterpritation of the studies.
(DIR) Post #ARkAiydC195NNlBcxc by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T19:26:22Z
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@freemo but to claim they are dangerous is a huge leap, nor supported by anything you posted.I never claimed that the vaccines are dangerous.The main point of my post is that the safety profile of the mRNA vaccines are debatable and the research on this matter is still ever-evolving as more data is revealed and more studies are conducted.The second point is regarding mandating the mRNA vaccines and vaccines passports. You already mentioned that you are against vaccines mandatesThe forth paper was regarding the initial clinical trials of the vaccines and how they were never tested for the virus transmission making vaccine passports absurd.
(DIR) Post #ARkBBKhvX1RfxWvEPY by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T19:31:29Z
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@freemo 👍
(DIR) Post #ARkBHlsLQzrDxNrgXo by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T19:32:36Z
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@voidabyss The main point of my post is that the safety profile of the mRNA vaccines are debatable and the research on this matter is still ever-evolving as more data is revealed and more studies are conducted.This is the only point I take issue with… the myocarditis issue is old knews and known quite a while ago and addressed. Moreover it doesnt actually change the assertion that the vaccines are very safe.Its important to note, as well, this issue was discovered before the vaccines had final (non-emergecy use) approval. So still well within the time we expect these sort of minor things to pop up.In short there is nothing to indicate the safety of the vaccine is still in question, quite the opposite that by this point the risks are very well known and its safe to say that it is safe with high confidence.As to your other points about transmissability and mandates, I have no real issue with that part of the discussion.
(DIR) Post #ARkBtGSWgjgBWafOam by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T19:39:24Z
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@freemo The problem I have with this dude is the bad-faith way he argues which resembles a troll more than a respectful debate.Its the lack of productivity and the inability to even attempt being productive combined with the absurdity that is troubling IMO.The issue is language barrier, he's Romanian so neither of you are going to properly communicate your points. However even if you couldPolitical discussions, particularly regarding polarizing topics, go against the spirit of this instance, however they are not strictly banned. The Moderation team reserves the right to perform actions should it be determined that a thread is deemed unproductive or has devolved into a hellthreadI am determining this thread to be unproductive and it would have devolved into a hellthread.I think if he acts this way with any other server admin it would stand a good chance of getting your server suspended.Hence, I have an uncomfortable position to maintain of not banning opinions that are shared on user profiles provided they remain on user profiles. While not allowing discourse not regarding technology to occur.It's an unfortunate compromise because nobody really gets what they want. However the server gets to protect itself which is probably more important.@2T2
(DIR) Post #ARkC3qxNqU97cG9IlU by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T19:41:19Z
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@splitshockvirus Sounds reasonable to me.. I mostly just wanted to convey the fact that you guys are good by me as the admin.@2T2
(DIR) Post #ARkEToVtkgrxTYndoG by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-17T20:08:26Z
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@freemo Its important to note, as well, this issue was discovered before the vaccines had final (non-emergecy use) approval. So still well within the time we expect these sort of minor things to pop up.I already mentioned this issue in my orignal post pointing to Pfizer own clinical trial data. CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021 https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf In short there is nothing to indicate the safety of the vaccine is still in question, quite the opposite that by this point the risks are very well known and its safe to say that it is safe with high confidence.I respect your opinion, but I value excess precaution as I am looking forward to more research studies on this matter.
(DIR) Post #ARkH7TeavXzmGvuMca by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-17T20:37:57.113806Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo @2T2 i have only one real argument on this account and i think i won lol
(DIR) Post #ARkHdKUcWSWl7vQmm0 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T20:43:45Z
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@voidabyss You be as cautious as you want, its just important to be careful about trying to sell that caution as something justified by the science.To be clear back when the vaccine was new and still emrgency use I would have agreed with you. But at this point it has undergone all the same tests as any medication and there isnt much science to suggest caution is anymore justified than with any other medication or vaccine really.
(DIR) Post #ARkHfLGmbajQ7Cv03k by hasmis@qoto.org
2023-01-17T20:44:00Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo @2T2 He’s a really bad troll, so I’d boot him out of Trollomainia. :)
(DIR) Post #ARkQDZcOYzAu5zrRnk by 2T2@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T22:19:56Z
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@freemo @splitshockvirus Well then I have to move on boyz. After all twitter became much more freedom respecting and fedi became a shit hole and the best example is this Shit face that pretends to be a doctor while he obviously is a pile of shit, knowing absolutely nothing about nothing while he deems everybody who does not get vaxed an idiot. @splitshockvirus Being an admin doesn't mean you have any higher knowledge than users regarding the subject discussed so because you made you choice you'll gonna be having exactly what you want, Dr Elmo who wanna vax everybody with his baseless insults. Who is this bag of shit @freemo to afford to insult millions of people just because they don't wanna take his science sauce from under his dog tail brewed in his toilet?!!And btw vaxxines are 100% technology relatedYou can ban but you can't be right. C'est la vie deal with it or grow a pair ;)You don't need to ban me cos I know my way out tnx in 10 seconds from now i'll bee vanishing from starnix and never look back. Gonna be looking for those guys I've followed or followers etc no worriesBon voyage and keep cuddling Dr Elmo's insults toward millions of people.I'm out of here cos 🤢 :chad2: Roger and out ;)EOT
(DIR) Post #ARkQMgnbEcqmyMRsCu by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-17T22:21:35Z
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@2T2 Don't let the door hit you on the way out.@splitshockvirus
(DIR) Post #ARkYUM8Yjr9YqBQ2ls by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-17T23:52:35Z
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@freemo @2T2 Just woke up.Oh he deleted his account. I wasn't actually expecting that.I would say maybe I should have only just redacted this thread instead of intervening in it but I've also had users delete their accounts because I've tried to save users from self embarrassment for really bad things that they've said by redacting their posts. And they either delete due to embarrassment or because they come to hate me. Which I'm pretty sure I've told 2T he would come to hate me.There is really no situation in which I am the good guy. At least I'm not scamming my users into paying for my instance.
(DIR) Post #ARkZhJXjnHSYVxwGgK by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T00:06:11.864619Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo idk why we have some users who are so wierd with there accounts
(DIR) Post #ARkd8NuVxopVk0BzBw by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-18T00:44:40Z
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@dc @freemo No offense but in all honesty I think amount of DT viewership has something to do with it.You are either a mentally under developed 16 year old communist larper or a 30+ year old boomer news watching q anon, there is literally no inbetween.There is a reason I do not like this instance being associated with distrotoot. Stop idolizing Derek.
(DIR) Post #ARkdaKxcWc24hTyR8K by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T00:49:45.203709Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo me? i dont care about derick at all kek i joined this instance because its ssv's server. also yea i would say so
(DIR) Post #ARke9T3GR0fzvhMhJQ by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-18T00:56:06Z
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@dc @freemo Not you in particular, but in general. I think from screenshots I've seen and word of mouth about matrix rooms a lot of Derek's fanbase is either toxic or socially underdeveloped and terminally online.
(DIR) Post #ARkeG8wrZnY1bjYQoS by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T00:57:18.555356Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo hmm i see well im not apart of it (his videos suck) so dont worry lol
(DIR) Post #ARkeS1o9wxUwwA9O4G by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-18T00:59:26Z
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@dc @freemo King shit. There are better channels out there anyway.
(DIR) Post #ARkehZBs7JfCoZeQE4 by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T01:02:15.879682Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo tbh i am very board of yewtu so i have been just doing computer shit lol. Need to switch out my server hard drive the current one is almost dead
(DIR) Post #ARkekS7oqHmRlq8DGC by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-01-18T01:02:49.115339Z
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@splitshockvirus @dc @freemo DT has the most copy-paste material on the net that only a redditor could stand.
(DIR) Post #ARkfR9edOLpYw8qIPA by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T01:10:30.623527Z
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@theorytoe @splitshockvirus @freemo still makes no sense as to why he left't no one was geting banned, might get him on my server and he can do what he wants
(DIR) Post #ARl4Mhdo6I73kbQgoy by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-18T05:49:48Z
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@splitshockvirusAs the admin you will always be the bad guy no matter what you do. I think you were more considerate than most admins woukd be. @dc
(DIR) Post #ARl4VdV6raKhW3cZBA by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T05:51:26.645053Z
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@freemo @splitshockvirus not all admins are bad guys most are not ssv, ssv is great
(DIR) Post #ARl4cULvH4VnAdajMe by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-18T05:52:38Z
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@dc I think you misubderstood. Im saying everyone will treat you like the bad guy. Im not tryibg to imply it is deserved.@splitshockvirus
(DIR) Post #ARl5Jhw2eODbkS5u6K by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T06:00:29.625248Z
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@freemo @splitshockvirus and im saying no one will treat you as the bad guy if your not bad lol
(DIR) Post #ARl5hW88C0u05N6Org by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-18T06:04:45Z
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@dc I wish that were true. It may work for a while when your small but that doesnt hokd true for long.@splitshockvirus
(DIR) Post #ARl6FSe7eWeV7sFeq0 by splitshockvirus@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-18T06:10:55Z
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@freemo It's true. There are enough people that someone is going to find you as an asshole.I'm just surprised that THAT comment of all things is what made him delete his account. I'm more perplexed than I am upset in all honesty.I don't take this social media shit all that seriously. But appearantly arguing with strangers on the internet is serious business to some people.@dc
(DIR) Post #ARl6c7AbfMrvBCFQOW by dc@pl.starnix.network
2023-01-18T06:15:01.158368Z
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@splitshockvirus @freemo lol i mean as in if you act right most people wont hate you, ofc there will be some but that's life
(DIR) Post #ARl6ep1XadRJljIYaW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-18T06:15:29Z
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@splitshockvirus @dc
(DIR) Post #ARl6mra9xh2C1JKEgi by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-18T06:16:56Z
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@dc Yea there is some truth to that... but i think in todays world, at least in america and the uk, people are lookibg for reasons to be offended. Being offended is how people tell themselves they are doing good things.@splitshockvirus
(DIR) Post #ARl7JRaLdfQwwqwuQa by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2023-01-18T06:22:53.003643Z
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@freemo @splitshockvirus @dc literally people who need to go outside the most
(DIR) Post #ARl7RSeRYj1CZTghJQ by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-18T06:24:16Z
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@theorytoe Outside is the last place they shoukd go... people can actually punch you in the face out there instead of just imagining it.@splitshockvirus @dc
(DIR) Post #ARl7YJ5NWQUsvnYCA4 by PhenomX6@fedi.pawlicker.com
2023-01-18T06:25:31.856965Z
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average poast user trying to search for stars of david under his bed episode 420
(DIR) Post #ARqfP0YPQCmr57fO3U by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-01-20T22:38:22Z
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@freemo You be as cautious as you want, its just important to be careful about trying to sell that caution as something justified by the science.That’s your determination, the scientific research and the clinical trials on this matter are still on going, whether you want to acknowledge that fact or not. A Phase 1/2/3 Study to Evaluate the Safety, Tolerability, and Immunogenicity of an RNA Vaccine Candidate Against COVID-19 in Healthy Children and Young Adultshttps://beta.clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT04816643 Moderna mRNA-1273 Observational Pregnancy Outcome Study https://beta.clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT04958304I am relying scientific experts opinion on this topic as well as research studies and case studies therefore my concerns are justified and backed up by science not social conformity or peer pressure.Expert opinion: Paul A. Offit, MDhttps://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Paul_Offithttps://www.fda.gov/media/117731/downloadMember of FDA advisory board Bivalent Covid-19 Vaccines — A Cautionary Tale https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2215780%EF%BF%BC Research studies: The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients—A Large Population-Based Studyhttps://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/11/8/2219 Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346 Myopericarditis After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination Among Adolescents and Young AdultsA Systematic Review and Meta-analysis December 5, 2022https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2798866?guestAccessKey=849e80f0-4a29-4d04-9e1f-34c73224f8c9&utm_source=silverchair&utm_campaign=jama_network&utm_content=car_weekly_highlights&cmp=1&utm_medium=email Covid-19 vaccination BNT162b2 temporarily impairs semen concentration and total motile count among semen donorshttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13209 Extended SARS-CoV-2 RBD booster vaccination induces humoral and cellular immune tolerance in micehttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004222017515Case studies: COVID-19 Vaccination-Induced Ventricular Fibrillation in an Afebrile Patient With Brugada Syndromehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9623033/ Case report: Myocarditis with nonsustained ventricular tachycardia following COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in a female adolescenthttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9720276/pdf/fped-10-995167.pdf Torsades de pointes following vaccination for COVID-19https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8993415/ But at this point it has undergone all the same tests as any medication and there isnt much science to suggest caution is anymore justified than with any other medication or vaccine really.The safety profile of the mRNA vaccines is not set in stone and will continue to be questioned as more data is reveled and research conducted, the same way as any medication really e.g. Bextra. On April 7, 2005, Pfizer withdrew Bextra from the U.S. market on recommendation by the FDA, citing an increased risk of heart attack and stroke and also the risk of a serious, sometimes fatal, skin reaction.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValdecoxibPfizer drug breach ends in biggest US crime finehttps://www.theguardian.com/business/2009/sep/02/pfizer-drugs-us-criminal-fine
(DIR) Post #ARqx0QQdshiRGYSfce by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-21T01:55:36Z
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@voidabyss of course clinical trials are on going. They always will be, thats how science works, we always keep looking. But that is no way even remotely an indication that there is any concern. Spewing studies that all confirm the safety if the vaccines is intended to prove what exactly?
(DIR) Post #ARrm87v3g6Nvq57NU8 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-01-21T11:28:27Z
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@voidabyss Please be aware that posting a bunch of studies that show COVID’s safety and claiming its safety is questionable is approaching anti-vax nonsense. It would fall under bad faith arguments.
(DIR) Post #ASWyND3N2Ale38B4i0 by PalePimp@poa.st
2023-02-10T08:28:50.991812Z
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@voidabyss @freemo corruption-of-science.blogspot.com/
(DIR) Post #AVFJjGtUI5RCmbfyQy by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-04-30T18:58:52Z
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Noteworthy reanalysis study to update this thread. Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults 3.4. Harm-benefit considerations In the Moderna trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (15.1 per 10,000 participants) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (6.4 per 10,000 participants). [3] In the Pfizer trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (10.1 per 10,000) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (2.3 per 10,000 participants).Dr. Aseem Malhotra tells Joe Rogan that a reanalysis of Pfizer and Moderna’s original clinical trial data shows that their COVID mRNA vaccines INCREASE your risks of serious adverse events, hospitalization, and death: This is the highest quality of scientific evidence. Joseph Fraiman is an ER doctor and clinical data scientist from Louisiana. Associate editor of the BMJ, Dr. Peter Doshi. Dr. Robert Kaplan from Stanford. Some real eminence of integrity published this reanalysis, and what they found was this. In the trials that led to the approval of regulators worldwide, you were more likely to suffer a severe adverse event from taking the vaccine, hospitalization, disability, or life-changing event than you were to be hospitalized with COVID.https://t.wtyl.live/w/w3tSE1XM848qXoihiqENRR#COVID #COVID19 #vaccines #mrna #vaccine@freemo
(DIR) Post #AVFJjJVqYRJGu9ddVA by freemo@qoto.org
2023-05-02T13:39:31Z
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@voidabyss hows that noteworthy.. not particularly shocking study that doesnt change much as far as this discussion is concerned.
(DIR) Post #AZuQCbj6g6YCL6Oxs0 by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-07-26T18:49:07Z
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Another study related to mRNA safety and myocardial injury risks. Sex-specific differences in myocardial injury incidence after COVID-19 mRNA-1273 Booster Vaccinationhttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ejhf.2978 In conclusion, using active surveillance, mRNA-1273 vaccine-associated mild transient myocardial injury was found to be much more common than previously thought. It occurred in one out of 35 persons, was mild and transient, and more frequent in women versus men.@freemo
(DIR) Post #AZuQCcqEX5qTnUkAcK by voidabyss@qoto.org
2023-09-18T01:00:39Z
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Cancer Genomics Expert Dr. Phillip Buckhaults Testifies to the SC Senate on the DNA Contamination Found in mRNA COVID Vaccineshttps://t.wtyl.live/w/wMK5KH8UqBFKydis9W289Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEWHhrHiiTY@freemo
(DIR) Post #AZuQCdYBtf0VzpJH8K by freemo@qoto.org
2023-09-19T01:03:39Z
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@voidabyss If you want me to watch something youhave to explain to me, at a minimum, why I care and what the video is saying that might motivate me to watch it.The one quote from the video that seems to sum it up, to quote the doctor:“The pfizer vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping people from dying… It was deployed mostly in good faith”Ok sure.