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(DIR) Post #ARgM0RZG0VXeui2NIO by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:04:04Z
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This is one of the ideas that keeps coming back up over and over again. The reason it doesn’t die is that it results in your Ministerial photo and name in the paper, appearing to be Doing Something About The Internet.The reason it should die is that it is a very bad idea.Social media users ‘should have to verify identity to send messages’, Minister sayshttps://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/social-media-users-should-have-to-verify-identity-in-order-to-send-messages-1418810.html
(DIR) Post #ARgM0TLVObjKQdcQ8e by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:05:28Z
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Come with me through the Thicket of Vagueness. Let’s examine the consequences of actually implementing the proposal the Minister has, insofar as it can be discerned, advanced.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0V5Gvvvvos2U76 by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:07:48Z
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Here is the policy proposition:“Some of them don’t even have names, they’re anonymous people, and I think that there should be a requirement, if you’re going to put online media or put online comments in that domain, that they should be accountable for what they say.“Because you have to be accountable for what to say when you’re speaking publicly… Why should people be allowed to make comments and we don’t know who they are?”
(DIR) Post #ARgM0X4HYaKVyNaiqe by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:09:40Z
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The headline then quotes a more specific suggestion that people “‘should have to verify identity to send messages’”
(DIR) Post #ARgM0YpT0dfRR0fv28 by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:18:23Z
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Ireland has no legislation for a single national identity register. The attempt by the Minister’s predecessor and her Dept to turn the Public Services Card database into one was found illegal.So what database are social media companies to use as a reference as to user’s identity?
(DIR) Post #ARgM0afGBYgv7vunOy by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:21:22Z
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This nettle was grasped by the Junior Minister for Older People when he wrote to the European Commission without checking with his Cabinet colleagues and proposed they should amend EU law and allow Social Media companies access to State databases (like the PSC card one). This was an impressive 3 for 1 bad idea, being politically daft, illegal for the Govt and illegal for the Commission too in the unlikely event they paid attention.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0cOJlWKMTy0IGu by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:23:07Z
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Exactly what political antennae told him that suggesting that Citizen’s personal data be given to Facebook on the understanding that they would only use it for totally sound purposes would be a winner of an idea we do not know, as he was not subsequently elected.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0e99EtNhvUvCu8 by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:24:05Z
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The Minister today has the additional attraction of proposing to require that citizens be required, by law, to disclose their identity to Elon Musk’s Twitter.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0g2UCdEznPounY by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:26:25Z
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The problem for the proponents of mass data surveillance is that the State has no instinctive understanding of the principle of proportionality. The Minister concedes that the problem is not that most, or even many social media users are misbehaving “There’s not that many of them”, as she says.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0hkTqY1h69PZ0i by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:28:39Z
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While many of the proponents are more Large Adult Sons than Big Brothers in their understanding of the nuance of their surveillance proposals, that doesn’t mean that taking them seriously wouldn’t harm people, potentially threatening even some lives.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0jeWleS90Gdq0e by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T17:32:38Z
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What these proponents of the idea do not grapple with- or even really address- is that requiring everyone in the country to “verify their identity to send messages” is a profound intervention in the rights of everyone, for the purposes of *potentially* dissuading *some* of the abuse made by a vanishingly small proportion of voters against politicians.And a data processing intervention which is disproportionate is an illegal one.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0lPMF1VURnYkds by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T20:42:54Z
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“Some of them don’t even have names”
(DIR) Post #ARgM0nJPA7vwLun1do by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T21:21:56Z
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Some years ago, Junior Minister Pat Carey went on TV to propose to require people who bought mobile SIMs to all be entered into a Register.He argued this would prevent drug dealing (method unspecified).I had to go on the telly (which I do not like to do because the big glass eye steals your soul and shows the people you went to school with all your new chins) and point out it would be ineffective (resale or gifting was not captured) and disproportionate (most phone calls not drug deals).
(DIR) Post #ARgM0oyCzuAPUkt7se by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T21:23:21Z
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Junior Minister Pat Carey lost his seat at the election that followed (not because of this idea, but due to the participation in collapse of national economy).
(DIR) Post #ARgM0qeQkPXChzeMKW by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T21:26:12Z
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Then Junior Minister Jim Daley wrote his letter to the European Commission You can read it here, if you have the steel in your soul to get through it.Reading it, it was unsurprising to learn the minister had not consulted the AG’s office as part of his correspondence preparation.https://www.digitalrights.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/jim-daly-EU-Commissioner-Letter.pdf
(DIR) Post #ARgM0sVHrNPQSDO5M8 by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T21:26:52Z
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As mentioned above, the Minister did not seek election at the following vote.
(DIR) Post #ARgM0uCvWbuXjqoS12 by Tupp_ed@mastodon.ie
2023-01-15T21:29:35Z
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More galling from my point of view, I had to go on the telly again to explain why this plan was less than ideal (and illegal).I looked like this as he replied.