Post ARfvp2JAz0cEZzPorw by ddbuskirk@mstdn.party
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(DIR) Post #ARfjBoMLiBeSZfQfzs by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-15T15:13:04Z
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One of the most obvious facts regarding the GOP is that they have forgotten how to do anything constructive, apparently on purpose.They excel at obstructionism, lying, misdirect, infighting, and electing clowns. Now they want to "investigate" a laundry list of fallacious "plots" and impeach all they think are their enemies. Clearly, they are not prepared to govern and electing a weakened McCarthy as Speaker confirms that point.Republicans have zero interest in continuing to build on the Democrats’ work on infrastructure or anything else. They are a fractured collection of individuals calling themselves a party that have no real policies or ideas of what can be done to move this country forward because their idea of making things better is regression. The Republican Party’s core message is white grievance and the rejection of the common good.That won’t solve any modern problems.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/opinion/mccarthy-republicans-coming-apart.html?smid=url-share
(DIR) Post #ARfjBotJjc1UDur0Ns by SteveRogers@democracy.town
2023-01-15T15:31:59Z
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@TonyStark Republicans don’t legislate. They’ve shown for a while now that they’re not about governing.In 2017-2019, they had the presidency, Supreme Court and comfortable majorities in both houses of Congress. What did they accomplish with it? A tax cut for the wealthy and corporations… That’s it.Nothing on health care, environment, our decrepit roads and infrastructure, etc.
(DIR) Post #ARfjBpOVrcybmfRv0a by edgeoforever@mastodon.world
2023-01-15T15:40:35Z
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@SteveRogers @TonyStark tbh, they tried hard to do something on healthcare. Take ACA apart! I even remember a kegerator party on the White House lawn when they passed it in the House!
(DIR) Post #ARfrjci4KYjRvGDqIS by MJ@democracy.town
2023-01-15T16:01:36Z
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@TonyStark McCarthy & the GOP will rue the day he became Speaker. The extremists on the right aren't finished. They're just beginning. They will make McCarthy's life a total nightmare. McCarthy stands for nothing & he's traded away his ability to stand for anything. He will be a weakest speaker ever of a weak majority whose contribution (besides an appetite for chaos) will be limited to obstruction & performance art. The speaker position has now been devalued, demoted & become ceremonial for McCarthy. The most crucial concession by McCarthy was his willingness to restore what is known as the “motion to vacate the chair,” a procedure that allows rank-and-file members to ask for a vote to remove the speaker. Odds are we'll see that vote in a few months. They’re a party of windbags & bullies, content to see the country fail instead of working together for the good of the country.
(DIR) Post #ARfrjdSrWaA8GO7DEW by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-15T17:04:21Z
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@MJ Some said before the 2022 election that the Democratic party was dying. They had identified the wrong party, It's the Republicans who are in big trouble. Divided parties lose elections. Parties that indulge their most unrepresentative dogmatists alienate the rest. Parties that put ideological purity over governing become neither ideologically pure nor effective. This is the most irrefutable advice the Republican Party will ever receive. Unfortunately they lack wisdom to accept it.
(DIR) Post #ARfrjdvZnp8BhRY8zQ by MJ@democracy.town
2023-01-15T17:07:35Z
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@TonyStark
(DIR) Post #ARfvp2JAz0cEZzPorw by ddbuskirk@mstdn.party
2023-01-15T17:48:15Z
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@TonyStark They want to burn it all down. I don't know where all the anger comes from. Guess they're planning to build a fascist utopia on the ashes.
(DIR) Post #ARfvp2mFEvrs2912B6 by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-15T18:08:40Z
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@ddbuskirk Indeed. People who want to burn it all down should be careful what they wish for. Historically, the collapse of governments has most often lead at least in the short term to widespread violence, economic collapse, and suffering, and often has ended up with a more authoritarian and oppressive government than the original.Of course, right wingers want that last part. Nobody else should.
(DIR) Post #ARgTN5v9M5Y67I1d6u by MugsysRapSheet@newsie.social
2023-01-15T21:14:24Z
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@TonyStark You forgot: "Masters of Both Side-ism".COPIES of Top Secret docs found on Hillary's phone & private server led to YEARS of "Lock Her Up!"Trump KNOWINGLY STEALS HUNDREDS of Top Secret docs (loses at least 47), ignores multiple subpoenas, calls the docs "mine", says he declassified them "just by thinking about it", and the GOP cries "Witch Hunt!"Biden's OWN lawyers find docs no one even knew were missing, turns them over, and the GOP opens an investigation. #JFC.
(DIR) Post #ARgTN6TXIF3Rpw75hw by VE2UWY@mastodon.radio
2023-01-15T21:21:26Z
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@MugsysRapSheet @TonyStark So we're clear here, it's the information in the document that is classified as Top Secret (or whatever) not the actual paper. Copy or original, the crime is the same. But yes, like Ms Clinton's case, Mr Biden's is incompetence and/or plain old sloppiness not malice. As far as we know.I've said it before. Sleepy Joe's messaging needs to be along the lines of "OMG, this is incredibly embarrassing, this is entirely on me, and we're still searching." But it won't.
(DIR) Post #ARgTN6wFZU1VGzY1Sq by MugsysRapSheet@newsie.social
2023-01-15T21:50:14Z
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@VE2UWY @TonyStark Point being, 1) #GOPHypocrisy and 2) The crime is NOT "the same" unless she copied/digitized the documents herself. If *someone else* made the copies and sent them to her, then the crime (if any) is *theirs* not hers.There is no situation Biden could mitigate this when Trump supporters are so desperate to "both sides" the issue.
(DIR) Post #ARgTN7MTzx0UaLoyLw by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-15T21:52:58Z
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@VE2UWY @MugsysRapSheet I’m super excited to be contributing to the future feature of Mastodon to be able to limit replies. Anyone using “Sleepy Joe” isn’t particularly sincere about accountability.
(DIR) Post #ARgTN7to03f6FhPaIC by VE2UWY@mastodon.radio
2023-01-15T22:30:09Z
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@TonyStark @MugsysRapSheet Go for it! I thought he was a terrible candidate and choice and voted for him happily what with him not being a fascist and all. I am also happy that he was able to convince the Congress to pass a repeal of the phony debt ceiling after the election so we could avoid the planned attack on the nation by the #GOP. Wait - did he do that?
(DIR) Post #ARgTN8TFsG1C1dztY0 by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-15T22:33:41Z
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@VE2UWY @MugsysRapSheet I love meeting people who want an award for doing the bare minimum and don’t know how Congress works. Enjoy.
(DIR) Post #ARgTN9LqbHgekxXUdk by JamesRhodes@democracy.town
2023-01-15T23:56:11Z
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@TonyStark @VE2UWY @MugsysRapSheet Documents found by Biden's legal team. And he-informed DOJreturned documents to NARAfound more documentsinformed to DOJreturned to NARAfound more documents.informed to DOJWill be sent to NARADOJ formed Special counsel to investigate.Let the special counsel investigate.if found guilty, then we can talk, if not end of the story. The situations are not the same and never will be.
(DIR) Post #ARi2OCGmvUu1eQMqKe by stopgopfox@libretooth.gr
2023-01-15T23:01:43Z
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@TonyStark I'm curious to see if that idea of "a fractured collection of individuals" comes into play the next two years. The GOP was such a well-oiled machine for years that everyone in the family protected one another. But that seems not to be the case these days with in-fighting spilling into public view. Do you think they'll find their way back to that mob family mindset... or are they doomed to permanent fracture because of their mercurial temperaments?
(DIR) Post #ARi2OCo6vbYdJlxSGu by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-15T23:10:05Z
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@stopgopfox That is an excellent question.I think it could easily fall apart. McCarthy is pretty much doomed to be subjected to repeated efforts to remove him. It’s very unlikely that the wacko faction aka the No Freedom Caucus are going to move to the center.It also seems that for the time being that the short list of possible more sane Republicans (I’m looking at some who are in Biden-won districts here) aren’t going to go with the Matt Gaetz faction.I’m sure you’ve seen a few of them call for less extreme policies on abortion, for example, but look at what’s happened just this week- ban efforts. Their own voters reject ballot measures there.If Dems can keep hanging together, which Jeffries is managing quite well, I see Republicans fracturing further.Curious to your thoughts, also.
(DIR) Post #ARi2ODLQviDEz7Y4DA by SkipFleming@mstdn.social
2023-01-15T23:27:32Z
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@TonyStark @stopgopfox I think the Democratic Representatives miss a golden opportunity by not backing a moderate Republican for Speaker instead of their steadfast support for Jefferies. If just a few centres Republicans had joined them we wouldn't be in this dysfunctional mess
(DIR) Post #ARi2OE80193pPkGquW by BenCisco@mastodon.online
2023-01-16T14:37:35Z
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@SkipFleming @TonyStark @stopgopfox Your theory is based on a myth. There are no "centrist" or moderate Republicans. They either retired, got defeated in primaries, or rolled over for the fascists.You are who you roll with. Dem House members were right in backing Jeffries. It won't be the last time, and greater things are coming.
(DIR) Post #ARiZQwEwHJfnI8PwWW by BillMcGuire@universeodon.com
2023-01-15T18:59:41Z
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@TonyStark @MJ It's like they have a chip on their shoulders.....a grudge against Dems so bad that they are willingly trying to destroy America to remain racists like Putin. What remains interesting to me is WHY they still garner so many lower income, less educated voters when it is obvious that they don't care about them....only about being in office. Once there, they are a do nothing but obstruct party. No ideas for taking the country forward. They are extinct, but Santos plans to save them.
(DIR) Post #ARiZrK1iSjB8asoU2y by jeff@federated.fun
2023-01-17T00:58:26.886352Z
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@BillMcGuire @TonyStark @MJ there is a legitimate earned mistrust in institutions who failed my generation and everyone born after me. it is a hatred of the uni party establishment, both sides of it. those who can only see this as an "us vs them" partisan bickering shitfest. those who went through lockdowns while in public school will see that those in these institutions be hanged as they deserve.
(DIR) Post #ARibLDVpLZK321iTQG by jeff@federated.fun
2023-01-17T01:15:09.765193Z
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@BillMcGuire @MJ @TonyStark the future is bright from the flames burning the world down, the fire that keep that generation warm.
(DIR) Post #ARjiE9I1XecQkHnS5I by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-16T15:27:43Z
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@SkipFleming @stopgopfox @BenCisco Exactly that.
(DIR) Post #ARjiE9oHbiQIMKtDMm by GreenFire@climatejustice.social
2023-01-16T15:30:13Z
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@TonyStark @SkipFleming @stopgopfox @BenCisco It just comes back to the far-left trying to hang the entire blame for the state of our country on us Democrats imo when people say stuff like that.
(DIR) Post #ARjiEAHLrdfvoUUQfw by TonyStark@democracy.town
2023-01-16T15:35:30Z
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@BenCisco @SkipFleming @stopgopfox @GreenFire I was talking to a mod here last night and mentioned there was also a terrible WaPo take that week saying progressives should take responsibility and be able to get Republicans to elect a reasonable Speaker with them. The problem comes from all over, someone reads it, and then we get what starts here. Again, no Republican was available to work with Democrats. That’s on Republicans. We can’t work with what isn’t real.
(DIR) Post #ARjiEAhaI6ev7qlNZ2 by MariaHill@democracy.town
2023-01-16T19:30:57Z
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@TonyStark Thanks for not calling me out by name without asking. I will say it was me though. 🙂That was our discussion: name one Republican willing to work with Democrats. Who were Democrats to support? There are a handful of Republicans who aren't outright election deniers and are just voting for an election denier for Speaker. Brian Fitzpatrick (PA) has said he'll consider a discharge petition to raise the debt ceiling, but only if he gets concessions from Democrats, which probably means cuts to Social Security and Medicare. As a Democrat, is that something you want your Representative to support? I don't want mine to (and mine definitely won't). Who else is halfway reasonable? There were 72 Republican House members who voted to certify Biden's election. 53 of them remain in Congress. Who is going to work with Democrats? French Hill? Chip Roy? Ken Buck? Patrick McHenry?@BenCisco @SkipFleming @stopgopfox @GreenFire
(DIR) Post #ARjiEBDUNUBCingrIG by noyes@mastodon.online
2023-01-16T22:47:28Z
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@MariaHillMake a few January 6th facing arrests of Donor Class insurrection supporters at 9 on a Tuesday morning and I bet that Debt Ceiling gets raised by 5 pm the same day.@TonyStark @BenCisco @SkipFleming @stopgopfox @GreenFire @CassandraZeroCovid
(DIR) Post #ARjiECS3mnQgYHW0e0 by MariaHill@democracy.town
2023-01-16T19:40:17Z
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@TonyStark @BenCisco @SkipFleming @stopgopfox @GreenFire This is who is left, btw:Steve Womack (AR)French Hill (AR)Bruce Westerman (AR)Tom McClintock (CA)Young Kim (CA)Michelle Steel (CA)Ken Buck (CO)Vern Buchanan (FL)Gus Bilirakis (FL)Michael Waltz (FL)Austin Scott (GA)Drew Ferguson (GA)Ashley Hinson (IA)Marianette Miller-Meeks -IA)Randy Feenstra (IA)Mike Simpson (ID)Darin LaHood (IL)Larry Bucshon (IN)Victoria Spartz (IN)Brett Guthrie (KY)Thomas Massie (KY)Andy Barr (KY)James Comer (KY)Bill Huizenga (MI)John Moolenaar (MI)Tom Emmer (MN)Pete Stauber (MN)Ann Wagner (MO)Patrick McHenry (NC)Kelly Armstrong (ND)Don Bacon (NE)Chris Smith (NJ)Mark Amodei (NV)Andrew Garbarino (NY)Michael Turner (OH)Robert Latta (OH)Brad Wenstrup (OH)David Joyce (OH)Troy Balderson (OH)Brian Fitzpatrick (PA)Nancy Mace (SC)Dusty Johnson (SD)Kay Granger (TX)Michael McCaul (TX)Dan Crenshaw (TX)Chip Roy (TX)1/2
(DIR) Post #ARjiEECBInurxc6MAi by MariaHill@democracy.town
2023-01-16T19:41:47Z
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@TonyStark @BenCisco @SkipFleming @stopgopfox @GreenFire John Curtis (UT)Blake Moore (UT)Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA)Dan Newhouse (WA)Glenn Grothman (WI)Mike Gallagher (WI)Bryan Steil (WI)If anyone thinks they can get 5-6 to work with Democrats, please call them. We'll likely have 213 Democrats including Jennifer McClellan after the VA-4 special election.
(DIR) Post #ARlVXKTZGXVBqwvpEu by stopgopfox@libretooth.gr
2023-01-15T23:21:30Z
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@TonyStark Further fracturing on the right seems almost inevitable, but I'm starting to think McCarthy might hold on a little longer than most are expecting.If they boot McCarthy, there is virtually no one else who will allow all the factions to behave in such a selfish, undisciplined way. McCarthy is uniquely weak and lets Gaetz, Greene, Jordan all be loudmouths even if the undisciplined talk and policy positions hurt the party long-term. I hope McCarthy stays because he lets them run wild!
(DIR) Post #ARlVXKxLTpJzLIrbea by TheRealBozoTClown@mstdn.social
2023-01-15T23:29:25Z
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@stopgopfox @TonyStark To me you have three factions. The ones who actually want to do the work, a vanishingly small number in the Grift Old Party now. Then the bombthrowers, enabled by gerrymandering. I *think* they want to keep their jobs but are willing and/or unintelligent enough to cut off their noses to spite their faces. Finally, the ones who are primarily motivated by getting re-elected. The direction in the next two years is probably driven by their calculus on electability.
(DIR) Post #ARlVYFuphqBE017u9Q by TheRealBozoTClown@mstdn.social
2023-01-15T19:28:05Z
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@TonyStark If you start with the famous quote from St. Reagan, "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem", as the first principle then today's #GOP is just the logical apotheosis. They can't physically discard government but they can render it ineffectual through incompetence, obstinacy, voter suppression, greed and laziness. The legislature where I live is a prime example. Gerrymander the state into a semi-permanent majority and then refuse to govern.