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(DIR) Post #ARThvmYxKDkxcBYMng by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T20:48:19.612Z
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Why is it called the Open Game License if it is not "open" in any way at all?
(DIR) Post #ARTj1L1oi7HLuTGYE4 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T20:59:59.530472Z
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@SuperDicq That's a pretty weird license indeed…Much less open than say https://en.hololive.tv/terms which isn't open just "fanart accepting", which I think ought to be part of a well defined copyright exception (which fair-use isn't).
(DIR) Post #ARTjElhOrQtwON7VYG by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:02:56.371Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Hololive doesn't claim to be "open" so this bothers me much less.You would expect any license with "open" in the name an acceptable license by FSF, OSI or CC standards, but it is not.They literally call it "open" to appear better to the outside because most people only read the title and not the actual license text details.
(DIR) Post #ARTjN9EfEitFhpftxI by iska@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-09T21:04:31Z
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@SuperDicq remembering the million proprietary programs with "open" at the start of the name.I don't know if the same happened with "free" yet
(DIR) Post #ARTjNeV2zrPmfcZvIO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:04:03.991153Z
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@SuperDicq Yeah, even the Wikipedia page is pretty misleading.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Game_License
(DIR) Post #ARTjTLN71joX5Ea4R6 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:05:34.789Z
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@iska@mstdn.starnix.network I think OpenAI is one of the biggest offenders right now.
(DIR) Post #ARTjgFG14VU3stPhRY by iska@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-09T21:07:58Z
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@SuperDicq I mean they do sometimes release the source code :cirno_shrug:
(DIR) Post #ARTjpltn53rpj6YnLs by dj@rojogato.com
2023-01-09T21:09:42.223442Z
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@iska @SuperDicq https://youtu.be/QxIWDmmqZzY
(DIR) Post #ARTjvr0D1E0ZIBSkCG by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:10:44.154Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Also I don't think the Hololive terms are bad at all. Actually very forward thinking compared to the more traditional Japanese media companies.They are not trying to copyright the idea of a vtuber or something like that. They are simply using their copyrights on their character models and videos which is sounds fair.I only wish they were less strict against people making money on their fan works.
(DIR) Post #ARTk18qI7Ky04PLSHA by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:11:07.099723Z
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@SuperDicq In fact I would say OGL license is bullshit.>"Open Game Content" means the game mechanic and includes the methods, procedures, processes and routines to the extent such content does not embody the Product Identity […]Algorithms aren't copyrightable, only trademark-able and apparently they used a different license for trademarks.
(DIR) Post #ARTk5za3ynponF4FGq by iska@mstdn.starnix.network
2023-01-09T21:12:36Z
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@SuperDicq oh, technically freedom planet is an offender
(DIR) Post #ARTkNwZVuBiifqN1RA by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:15:48.426Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Example in point: Hololive fan songs being removed from Spotify because it is impossible to upload songs to Spotify in a non-commercial way.I also see this as another reason to not use Spotify.
(DIR) Post #ARTkRFKMd2PRiDrJmi by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:15:54.736244Z
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@SuperDicq Not so surprising to me, a lot of Hololive is associated with doujin culture.And it seems like Hololive just wants people to contact them when for-profit comes in, which to me is fair.In fact it could be compared to the two licences of Kevin McLeod: https://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/licenses/And personally I wouldn't go against a commercial license + CC-BY-SA-NC for creative works.
(DIR) Post #ARTkcL9VJQWIxm4MNM by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:17:55.936246Z
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@SuperDicq To me that's very much anti-Spotify rather than Anti-Hololive.Which reminds me of the paywall bullshit that MuseScore did (which is a license breach when you consider ZUN's music sheets).
(DIR) Post #ARTkgLLoW3iwjljgzg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:19:08.325Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Ideally there should be nothing wrong with commercially selling derivative works.It's like "piracy", not like the original creator is losing money because a derivative work made some money. I just don't get it.
(DIR) Post #ARTlZWinwPoRvjnrHc by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:28:35.535793Z
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@SuperDicq There's differences between selling/monetized, non-profit and for-profit though.Which is actually where I don't really like the Non-Commercial bit of Creative Commons licences, to me it ought to be non-profit (aka at-cost or less).For example I don't think I would ever have an issue with selling pure derivatives (as in not just redistribution) at-cost.With for-profit I could see preferring an agreement where there's a bit of royalties.
(DIR) Post #ARTlvWqQAIN0gLrCWe by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:33:04.829Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I do not think you deserve a cut of my work simply because it is derivative of your work.My work is already promoting your work by simply existing, and now you want a cut of my profits as well? Make your own profits.
(DIR) Post #ARTm7h4fxLmnsuKEQS by Melymnia@cdrom.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:34:52.538413Z
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@SuperDicq @lanodan A creator can say “make your own IP”
(DIR) Post #ARTm7jQNDeKZAmUaWW by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:35:16.682Z
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@Melymnia@cdrom.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I already have an IP address.
(DIR) Post #ARTmIQMkQ0NDFWtYQ4 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:36:43.761302Z
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@SuperDicq Promotion or visibility gains pretty much nothing though, that's drinking the advertiser's kool-aid and those people are professional liars.Specially if you can sell the original work together with your own for less costs while still making a profit (public licences are worldwide).
(DIR) Post #ARTmSEPxhECv5Z4hqC by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:39:02.156Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I'm saying you don't deserve anything from derivative works.I know advrtiswment doesn't buy you anything. Bur I think attribution is important.
(DIR) Post #ARTnF9qlT2np6zwRCi by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T21:47:52.626Z
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@Melymnia@cdrom.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me If with IP you mean copyrighted work, I could say I did make my own copyrighted work that just happens to be derivative.
(DIR) Post #ARTnFYi72LjiDP5Ngm by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T21:47:25.704016Z
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@SuperDicq Software is a great example of attribution being just a token and being more a tool for copyright enforcement than anything else.For all the years I've done contributing to various software, some of them pretty important, only time I got money is for Pleroma development.It's fine for software because it's more a thing where the value is developer time / support rather than the end-work itself.But for creative works it is pretty different, there is still a lot of value once it's done, which is why commissions haven't taken over.
(DIR) Post #ARTqc7iDsiCN0LaYdM by iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
2023-01-09T22:24:17.031Z
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@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I have the complete opposite opinion but hear me outI think there is no problem with allowing commercial use. A real problem however is when one creates a derivative of something that is free to reuse, but they don't allow others to reuse it, this is what Copyleft licenses like GPL and CC BY-SA prevent. I think these are the best licenses and no one should use more restrictive ones.If a work is copyleft, then there is no problem with allowing commercial use. Whenever the work is shared commercially, the audience can also share the work for free without remunerating its author if they choose to do so. In this case, the audience is free to choose whether they want to remunerate the author of the derivative work or not. Would people choose to remunerate someone if they have the option not to? I believe they would, because this is already how it works today. People can choose to pirate media, and there are unlikely to face consequences, yet many don't do that.I believe remunerating the authors of derivative works is just as important as remunerating the original's. I think whether a work is an original or a derivative doesn't change its intrinsic value. Some fan games have thousands of hours of work put into them, I think they're just as valuable as an original game with thousands of hours put into its creation and those authors deserve remuneration equally.
(DIR) Post #ARTqqIKXCWXJzQGYFM by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:28:11.800Z
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@iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I might've misrepresented my point because I don't think that is an opposite opinion at all.I'd like to go one step further and reform copyright in such a way that the terms of the CC BY-SA is no longer necessary to enforce but the default of any creative work.
(DIR) Post #ARTrL5FvrQ9KPxnKbo by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:33:44.276Z
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@iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I also believe the GPL shouldn't have to exist either and I see it as a temporary solution while copyright law isn't there yet.The law should require all software developers to provide users with the source code to any software they create. A valid reason to hide the source code never exists.I'm convinced this law will fix all the problems we have with monopolies in big tech.
(DIR) Post #ARTru9IwneJX6rvR8S by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:39:34.212743Z
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@iro_miya @SuperDicq >People can choose to pirate media, and there are unlikely to face consequences, yet many don't do that.Because it's quite worthless to pursue individuals even when in groups for copyright infringement and in fact one of the reasons copyright got created was just to secure profit rights and be able to license your work to publishing and printing companies.I think it's also why Hollywood took so long to sue The Pirate Bay (IIRC a mere collective), it's much more common for it to be an inter-corporation problem.> I believe remunerating the authors of derivative works is just as important as remunerating the original's.Same, which is why I would probably push for a ~public for-profit license, like Kevin McLeod does, this way derivative works can choose to go for-profit easily.By the way for games, I think the software itself is of much less value than the associated creative works.Like when you look at game engines that are comparable to a video players (as is the case for most Visual Novels, some are even purely based on the DVD format) I think it is pretty evident.
(DIR) Post #ARTs82udMX3DL5BBui by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:42:07.593155Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya IANAL but I think the default (like when there is no license) of french copyright is comparable to CC BY-SA.(US being something like public-domain, I guess it's like when you would abandon something on the street without supervision or labels)
(DIR) Post #ARTsBj8KqHU59bLLvM by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:43:15.050Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be In the US the default is not public-domain at all. It is "all rights reserved" and that should definitely change.
(DIR) Post #ARTsEPMwmXo4izSMkK by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:43:46.203Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be Licenses like CC0 have been created just to get around this.
(DIR) Post #ARTsEdIUzsZDvFU0ky by iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
2023-01-09T22:32:12.127Z
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@SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Actually yeah it's maybe not an opposite of your opinion, now that I read it more closely, we might be thinking the same way, it might contradict lanodan to an extent insteadSorry I should read more carefully before jumping into online debates 🤣
(DIR) Post #ARTsLxzQSgfC7r3hhI by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:44:09.727448Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya > The law should require all software developers to provide users with the source code to any software they create. A valid reason to hide the source code never exists.Agreed. And I think that could start by requiring all algorithms (which aren't copyrightable, only patentable and that's forced-public) to be published with their associated work.
(DIR) Post #ARTsPrVKW4NjAaq5Nw by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:45:50.383Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be I personally think patents should be completely abolished in all places of society.
(DIR) Post #ARTsQIXO0X4N0n0bq4 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:44:32.353932Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya default ≠ usual/typical
(DIR) Post #ARTsWvU47PcdXVcGDw by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:47:07.098Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be They say patents promote innovation while in practise patents are always in the way of innovation.
(DIR) Post #ARTsXSjoTspKfuEnqq by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:46:41.350585Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya Same, specially for algorithms and software but I don't think that's going to happen overnight.
(DIR) Post #ARTsjpQVx07yWA6iky by VD15@pl.valkyrie.world
2023-01-09T22:49:23.938515Z
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@SuperDicq @lanodan @iro_miya I think one could argue pretty effectively that patents are inherently anti-competitive
(DIR) Post #ARTsq6X1GfT5Iz8uP2 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:50:33.755Z
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@VD15@pl.valkyrie.world @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be And if you thought software patents were bad go look at patents in the medical field.
(DIR) Post #ARTswsK6Uah3GYKWa8 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:51:18.028586Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya Bluntly (and probably inexact), patents protects the first one to discover something and fund it's registration.Creations are more of a copyright matter.
(DIR) Post #ARTt1RDUhYYme0Pk4O by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:52:35.502Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be Protects the first one from what exactly? Someone improving their idea (aka innovation)?
(DIR) Post #ARTtFZtzCr3NdT22vA by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T22:55:11.192Z
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@roboneko@bae.st @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me So?
(DIR) Post #ARTtJhTazG3QHkeaKO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:55:25.881976Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya Right…It doesn't protects, it grants.Patents are state-granted monopolies, it's no surprise that big patent holders get into anti-trust lawsuits.
(DIR) Post #ARTtU9gQy7M0fDdzIu by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T22:57:16.743027Z
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@roboneko @SuperDicq @iro_miya And once discovered it's quite worthless as it quickly becomes common.Which is why I think research ought to be publicly/collectively funded.
(DIR) Post #ARTtdHA4XDm6Skr8RU by iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
2023-01-09T22:58:08.558Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo Could you elaborate on games?Well I'm not sure if I really get what you meant, so maybe I'm gonna be babbling unrelated nonsense, but there's indeed a difference between the value of a work, and the value of someone's contribution in a derivative.When I said that derivatives are as valuable as originals, I meant that your contribution to a work is the same value whether it's an original or not.So if you had an original game, someone makes a derivative game that reuses the original's graphics. If they're the same scope and of the same quality, my point was that both have the same value as standalone works, I don't deny that the derivative game contributes less value.Mainly, I was arguing that, no matter whether you're working on an original project or a derivative one, your work has value and you deserve to get money for it. This was meant in favour of the idea that commercial use of derivative works is okay. I hope that makes sense 😅
(DIR) Post #ARTtiKgUrcgspxQwwC by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T23:00:20.343Z
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@roboneko@bae.st @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me I don't really agree with the logic that humans will not try to solve problems if there is less or no profit motive.Patents make new drugs often way more expensive than they should be because a drug company doesn't just expect a return on investment but a big profit margin as well. The same can be achieved using public funding, same results, less profits, cheaper medicine. No patents.
(DIR) Post #ARTto7aCUJxvwOFUSu by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T23:01:25.752Z
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@roboneko@bae.st @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me In your example a government (not the only public funding option btw) would only want a return on investment, not a large profit.
(DIR) Post #ARTv2VzSdeDheCUXMO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T23:14:41.289783Z
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@iro_miya @SuperDicq I do a big difference between the value of labour and the value of a creation at rest.Software value, when not maintained, goes down *very* quickly, some more than others though.Engineer value on the other hand is pretty much constant.Art valuation is uuh… a can of worms but typically keeps it's value even when not maintained.And for games, I think you're pointing at cases where say a mod or extension got enough value to become standalone.Which legally is a mess that can very much get cases like the AT&T vs. BSDi lawsuit.The case I'm pointing at is: Buy a video game, use whatever software you want to play it.There is many cases like this and I would say that video games where you can use whatever software keeps their value while the rest typically have their value go down with the software. And you get to a point where it makes no sense to sell or even be the sole distributor of copies anymore.Things like GOG sells can be an example, the original copies are quite worthless and pretty much became shovelware but the patched software with support makes it keep a bit of value.
(DIR) Post #ARTvHNC3cwXQhyT6MS by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T23:17:52.913Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be And for games, I think you're pointing at cases where say a mod or extension got enough value to become standalone.That reminds me of the of the legal battles between Valve and Activison-Blizzard over who owns "Dota".
(DIR) Post #ARTvV47TLAKbbbqvaK by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-09T23:20:21.512Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be This also prompted Activision-Blizzard to change the terms of ownership of custom creations in the Warcraft III Reforged.
(DIR) Post #ARTwDwovKE6VzzZuYC by iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
2023-01-09T23:17:40.382Z
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@roboneko@bae.st @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Right so for patents I'm a bit moderateI do think there is a ton of abuse for patents and they are anti-competitive.But, there are some things that would have never been invented if companies weren't motivated by the ability to obtain a patent, this is especially the case with medication.Some have said that patents could be replaced by monetary grants, but I don't see how that could work well. I think no one can accurately know the value of a discovery but the market itself.So instead I would suggest to massively increase the threshold of originality to obtain a patent. A patent should only be granted for innovation that required substantial research and that would have been unlikely to otherwise happen. It would also need to be substantially different from any expired patent.There should also be more retaliation options to fight against patent trolling, like anti-slapp laws but for patents. Although I believe that already exists to an extent, that still doesn't seem effective enough to stop this practice. Running after the trolls should always be a better option than paying up a license.Patents should not be granted on non-tangible discoveries such as those relating to maths, software, and games. This is already the case in Europe and we're doing fine.And lastly, but this is the suggestion I am the more hesitant about, we could consider granting exemptions to patents when this benefits public good, for instance for non commercial uses, or when the patent holder has a patent that is important to the general public and they're not doing a good enough job exploiting it.I don't know for that final point though, because I feel like that could deincentivise research into things that are beneficial to the general public, out of fear that these patents would end up being less valuable. That's not what we want!
(DIR) Post #ARTwDxCftv6RBegsZU by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T23:27:52.680788Z
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@iro_miya @SuperDicq @roboneko > But, there are some things that would have never been invented if companies weren't motivated by the ability to obtain a patent, this is especially the case with medication.Got an example of a patent for something that was *invented* rather than discovered?With say defining "discovery" as non-copyrightable: Someone with the same goals, restrictions, and public information would get the same result.Many if not all the patents that I've seen so far were just using existing engineering knowledge and observing that something does indeed work.> Patents should not be granted on non-tangible discoveries such as those relating to maths, software, and games. This is already the case in Europe and we're doing fine.Are algorithms, say H.264 encoding/decoding, not pure maths?Because I don't think you can ignore those patents in EU.
(DIR) Post #ARTwO5mAsoe6fc865o by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-09T23:29:47.307941Z
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@SuperDicq @iro_miya Kind of thing where I'm quite glad we got collective rights pretty well settled by default with FOSS licences.
(DIR) Post #ARU1Q4AkJeyk2wNpjc by iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
2023-01-10T00:25:04.764Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.st @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo Medication is the most commonly cited example of innovation driven by patents. I have to admit I am less of an expert in this field.Still, it feels like a lot of innovations require a lot of R&D that would not be justifiable without a patent, like solar panels, non-stick coatings, better batteries, I dunno things like that which feel pretty involved.Say I'm an electric car maker, I can spend a million into research to make better batteries, but what's the point if everyone copies it? Couldn't I just wait for someone else to make a breakthrough? Is it up to the government to fund my research? Or to reward me for what I find?For copyright I don't think there's the same dilemma because people respect the original author of a work more than the original author of a piece of technology. Also I just don't feel like the effort involved in creating creative works is as important as the cost of research and development for inventions.Patents are also way shorter than copyright, only lasting 20 years, I think that's more reasonable, although yeah it's sometimes obsolete by the time it's patent free...Anyway, algorithms such as H.264 are maths and ineligible for patenting in Europe. This is why VLC can legally exist, they're domiciled in France!
(DIR) Post #ARU1Q4i4JldLiHyRfs by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-10T00:26:41.950Z
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@iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.stSay I'm an electric car maker, I can spend a million into research to make better batteries, but what's the point if everynyan copies it? Uhm the point is so that everyone has better batteries now.
(DIR) Post #ARU2191LFkTvnWfHl2 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-10T00:32:47.519051Z
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@iro_miya @SuperDicq @roboneko > Patents are also way shorter than copyright, only lasting 20 yearsIf I remember correctly 25 years was the original length of copyright and I wouldn't go against putting the same limit for my own stuff, like having 25 years old releases ~expire and go to CC0. (With later updates being still under their original copyright)> This is why VLC can legally exist, they're domiciled in France!Must say I'm not sure about that while being French myself… That said I'm focused more on international rights (like at least EU-wide) rather than national or even regional.
(DIR) Post #ARU2AsLO6xoCyJgJDk by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-10T00:34:38.365456Z
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@iro_miya @SuperDicq @roboneko > Couldn't I just wait for someone else to make a breakthrough?That's kind of the idea, if someone else can effectively make the same discoveries… why not pool ressources for it together and take the result as a common good?
(DIR) Post #ARU3EQJ6OSjp85rrsm by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-10T00:47:01.676Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @roboneko@bae.st Yeah I think in a world without patents there would definitely be a lot more cooperation instead of competition.
(DIR) Post #ARUixCjfnKywBrlgci by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-01-10T08:34:29.054716Z
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@SuperDicq >They literally call it "open" to appear better to the outside because most people only read the title and not the actual license text details.Congrats, you figured out the proprietary trick known as "open source".
(DIR) Post #ARUzN9jBCQE9envxdQ by iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be
2023-01-10T10:08:39.737Z
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@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.st @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo Would people have other incentives to do any research and development?
(DIR) Post #ARUzNACbR1lN83hSUq by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2023-01-10T11:38:26.417Z
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@iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.stDo I have any incentive to talk to you right now? No, but I'm doing it anyway.I can already see the headlines:MAN DOES A THING WITHOUT MONETARY COMPENSATION, ECONOMY PROFESSORS THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPOSSIBLE