Post ARR9t7AwRhZpuwxQMy by guncelawits@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #ARR9N6HiDqXZt7rIps by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T15:10:58Z
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I went to the University of Toronto in the late 1980s, where the campus has a lot of brutalist concrete architecture It seemed like I’d stumbled into an early-80s episode of the Tom Baker Doctor Whoyou always felt that, at any minute, a bunch of daleks would come pouring out of the buildings shrieking exterminate exterminate
(DIR) Post #ARR9lygVcGbZYZJsZM by eriknordman@mstdn.social
2023-01-08T15:15:26Z
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@clive Is that the Scarborough campus? I visited UT Scarborough for a conference a while back. We had a nice time there.
(DIR) Post #ARR9t7AwRhZpuwxQMy by guncelawits@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T15:16:12Z
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@clive :imagines a scoring system of brutalist vs. gentleist and a system of incentives rewarding gentleism:
(DIR) Post #ARR9ymOCdnk7BirTGq by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T15:17:27Z
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@guncelawits Yes
(DIR) Post #ARRA4SV7UyQbF6nxvE by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T15:17:04Z
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@eriknordman no, those are from the downtown, St. George campus. But Scarborough has some fine examples also!
(DIR) Post #ARRASnlG6YxW88xf4y by deepthinking@mstdn.social
2023-01-08T15:23:09Z
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@clive I went to York U in the mid/late 80s, same energy but kind of 1970s desolation vibe. More Jon Pertwee and less Tom Baker
(DIR) Post #ARRAjWyvkB3v0qKirQ by Jonathanglick@mstdn.social
2023-01-08T15:26:12Z
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@clive Simon Fraser University has similar scifi aesthetics.
(DIR) Post #ARRB52A116yTnEltho by mzurich@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T15:29:42Z
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@clive Don’t forget this gem:
(DIR) Post #ARRCZIc8VWBzSrv7fk by zvi@wandering.shop
2023-01-08T15:46:44Z
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@clive you and are are near contemporaries. We always referred to Robarts library, that concrete fortress, as the giant turkey (it had a bird-head like tall protuberance).
(DIR) Post #ARRCyYInJhD7MMumwK by garymcm@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T15:51:17Z
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@clive In re "Daleks", those steps.😂
(DIR) Post #ARREuZcafZMECYPAMi by pterrymc@mastodon.scot
2023-01-08T16:12:59Z
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@clive I don’t know if you ever visited Trent Uni in Peterborough but looking at Champlain College you couldn’t help but think that the architect decided he would reimagine Cambridge or Oxford in a Brutalist style. The meal hall gave the eerie impression you were straddling distant timelines.
(DIR) Post #ARRFMErRRxGBvFXk7E by jaycruz@fosstodon.org
2023-01-08T16:17:59Z
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@clive Blade Runner architecture. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/12/21/blade-runner/
(DIR) Post #ARRG0ckG4JLZa5RMYq by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:25:19Z
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@jaycruz yep, that too
(DIR) Post #ARRG9Z3Z9Ty6kOjbZQ by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:26:56Z
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@pterrymc I've been to Trent, yes, but so long ago I forgot what it looks likeThat sounds right, though! All these Canadian universities had a) the British traditional historically mixed with b) growth spurts in the 60s, when a lot of Canadian design was trying to embrace the "future" in all ways So you get a strange mongrelization of those two impulses
(DIR) Post #ARRGTxmcvb3lEBXRIG by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:29:44Z
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@irwindev Yeah, SFU is really all that 60s brutalism in the high style
(DIR) Post #ARRGa1jR9zv9DAwCWW by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:31:29Z
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@garymcm heh hehas per baker's quip, when he fled up a hole in the ceiling while being chased by daleks (can't remember which ep it was), "If you're supposed to be the superior race of the universe why don't you try climbing after us?"
(DIR) Post #ARRGfulVyTSXLJiVw8 by ccarfi@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T16:26:51Z
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@garymcm @clive this. never could get too frightened by an adversary that could be evaded by…going up a flight of stairs.
(DIR) Post #ARRGfvITztpYzZ8qK8 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:31:37Z
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@ccarfi @garymcm hee hee yes
(DIR) Post #ARRGl1AxZHZgfk3ITA by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:31:58Z
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@zvi yep, I too spent many many hours in the belly of the turkey
(DIR) Post #ARRGsNks19FMjAMPke by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:32:41Z
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@Jonathanglick Totally!
(DIR) Post #ARRH2bDonpWJOFlyFs by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:32:57Z
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@deepthinking Yeah, York truly felt like a bunker
(DIR) Post #ARRH7W0vapR0gb5U0W by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T16:32:26Z
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@mzurich maybe the weirdest building in all of Canada
(DIR) Post #ARRHKsJfz6PlcWE9BY by garymcm@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T16:34:33Z
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@clive I don't remember that, but I do remember being scared to death of daleks, but I also remember how clumsy they were. Slow to aim, rotate and no concept of the element of surprise. Very unworthy of my childish fears, but they earned them anyway.By the way, regarding your pictures, what's Bracknell like these days? Edit: sorry if you're not British you might not understand the question, but Bracknell was the poster child of the postwar concrete jungle.
(DIR) Post #ARRHcgceCXZEZ3at1s by Jonathanglick@mstdn.social
2023-01-08T16:41:59Z
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@clive I'm probably wrong about this, but wasn't it maybe used for the home planet in BSG?
(DIR) Post #ARRI5UN8pGNEyA4ioq by marksmith@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T16:48:35Z
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@clive Mathematics building, University of Waterloo, same era. The pink tie was a whimsical manifestation of our inner quirkiness.
(DIR) Post #ARRINebxUpH9wBfSF6 by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T16:51:47Z
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@clive @guncelawits I have frequently noted that going to UofT as an impressionable teenager means that I imprinted like a duckling on both Brutalist and Richardsonian Romanesque architecture, with a side of Neogothic (ie Hart House).
(DIR) Post #ARRIifAibghpl1wbBY by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T16:55:08Z
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@guncelawits @clive I also have a very deep soft spot for what I think of mid-century municipal modernism, which is well-represented in post-war engineering school buildings across North America.
(DIR) Post #ARRL3B4ptTsMPS6Pya by mattwells@peoplemaking.games
2023-01-08T17:21:45Z
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@clive it still mostly looks that way. Except now people sort of embrace it, or at least they do with Robarts aka The Concrete Turkey:
(DIR) Post #ARRMLXRRa6B2wGzotE by Haggersnash@social.matteroffact.ca
2023-01-08T17:36:16Z
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@clive UofT Daleks? I thought that most exterminating, inhuman, colonizing, xenophobic beings came out of Schulich Business School. 😛https://schulich.yorku.ca
(DIR) Post #ARRMUMfB1bBE7Gd0jo by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:37:50Z
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@Haggersnash lol
(DIR) Post #ARRMlkHMTUeuHZmDHU by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:39:48Z
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@debcha @guncelawits Yes yes -- that stuff looks like my childhood
(DIR) Post #ARRN7mHFj4E0qoEPlA by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:44:44Z
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@debcha @guncelawits Yeah, same here In the spring I did a tour of U of T with my son (and a friend of his from his NYC high school, one year up, who coincidentally was accepted to U of T and was touring it to see if he wanted to go), and I took them on a long tour through every nook of Hart HouseIt's such a damn cool buildingWe went by New College, where his friend was accepted, thoughYowsa, that place is just ... ugly. There's no other word for it, alas
(DIR) Post #ARRND75Jn8LwpeC3c0 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:45:56Z
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@debcha @guncelawits New isn't brutalist, though -- it's just a kind of bog-standard 60s-70s brick-and-open-space designI now quite genuinely love the brutalist stuffNorthrop Frye Hall at Vic is just a damn ol' box of concrete, but I love it
(DIR) Post #ARRNJeMKzTbvliGrrs by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:46:40Z
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@marksmith I toured Waterloo with my son this spring!It had the same Doctor Who feelGreen lawn going right up to the edge of 60s-70s era poured concrete, lol
(DIR) Post #ARROAAdcDy5cwBOdqS by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:56:42Z
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@Jonathanglick Sounds likely!
(DIR) Post #ARROIlfUQlHw6LNAGW by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T17:58:16Z
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@garymcm @clive@mastodon.social I don't know about Bracknell! Britain is *loaded* with brutalist architecture -- that's precisely why I so associate U of T with 80s era Doctor Who; they were always shooting using British brutalist buildingsYeah, daleks scared the crap out of me, I think mostly because of that creepy shrieking voice
(DIR) Post #ARROgXsvKPrKIqzhqa by misc@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T18:01:24Z
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@clive A *significant* factor in my college choice was when I saw the library, this concrete behemoth that looked like it had dropped from the sky, and immediately felt at home
(DIR) Post #ARRPeQOUJAiGRgJKOu by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T18:13:20Z
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@misc yes!After having played Minecraft for over a decade now, I also visually recognize these things as deeply Minecraftian design
(DIR) Post #ARRPkm6iUWbbWf1hOy by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T18:14:22Z
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@misc Particularly the "flat grass going right up to the edge of the building"
(DIR) Post #ARRPu2MVQUIQXqpPhg by ocursedspite@home.social
2023-01-08T18:16:07Z
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@clive @deepthinking when they added Vari Hall later that really cheered up Ross and added more much-needed space.
(DIR) Post #ARRRCAxUIrmENCL64u by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T18:30:38Z
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@clive @guncelawits I basically lived in Hart House during grad school, not least because I was training for triathlons so ran, swam, or lifted every day. You used to be able to stay in a room at Hart House, tucked up under the roof, and it was as genuinely magical as you might imagine. They gave you a key to the slab of oak that’s the front door!
(DIR) Post #ARRROynKq5R8PdhCUK by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T18:32:27Z
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@clive @guncelawits And yeah, almost everyone I knew who lived on campus was at New College, because it was the dorm for engineering students, and…yeah. Those brown ceramic tiles everywhere.
(DIR) Post #ARRRdPkRQLuo3qE1jc by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T18:35:33Z
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@debcha @guncelawits There are a few rooms you can rent for the night as a visitor (used to be; not sure if they're still there?) and I knew alumni who'd sometimes stay there during business trips back to U of TIt was magical for them too
(DIR) Post #ARRRjUjPoC6LFpe1ya by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T18:36:35Z
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@debcha @guncelawits The one thing I like about it is the funky little internal quadThe undulating-curving walls of the main building make for a quite unique little spaceI'd go there during breaks from editing work at the Varsity and chill on the benches
(DIR) Post #ARRRqZBDfSat4u1Q7k by LShultz82@mastodon.online
2023-01-08T18:37:14Z
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@clive to me this is forever going to be the architecture of (my admittedly rudimentary) computer programming
(DIR) Post #ARRSGiZNNc5RjEn6KO by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T18:42:39Z
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@clive @guncelawits Yes, exactly; It me, I was an alumna who stayed at Hart House when I went back to Toronto after finishing my PhD, but at some point I went to book (c. 2003?) and they were no longer available.
(DIR) Post #ARRSez1jqKQNijczLM by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T18:46:00Z
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@guncelawits @clive Yeah! New is much nicer from the outside (even the internal outside) than in the corridors and dorms.
(DIR) Post #ARRWOd5u1LP8se26mO by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T19:28:55Z
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@debcha @guncelawits Ah, drat, I worried they'd gotten rid of it
(DIR) Post #ARRWU3KNucdNgrOQ08 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T19:29:20Z
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@LShultz82 Yes!
(DIR) Post #ARRXbAN2E3pHVwaXXU by glennf@twit.social
2023-01-08T19:34:15Z
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@debcha @clive @guncelawits I went to Yale and the brutalism Paul Rudolph Art & Architecture Building would have beaten any potential enjoyment or appreciation of brutalism out of you through regular use of the building.**It's a) pretty clear his actual vision wasn't realized, b) there were issues in building, c) maintenance was poor, d) there were mechanical problems, e) it suffered a major fire not long after being built. So not *entirely* Rudolph’s fault!
(DIR) Post #ARRXbArsNOUp3b1Abw by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T19:42:22Z
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@glennf @debcha @guncelawits Yep -- these buildings can get kind of ruined, from their initial vision, via design-by-committee
(DIR) Post #ARRZ36UyJbKvZHBc3M by vanderwal@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T19:58:15Z
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@clive Looks like US San Diego buildings they had in the late-80s, also university buildings in Den Haag and a technical university in / near Stuttgart form there in the 2000s.
(DIR) Post #ARRZZpO2xOOS3MYESG by vanderwal@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T19:55:35Z
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@debcha @clive @guncelawits This looks like many California State Office buildings from 2nd tier cites / towns that were around in the late 80s and 90s (may still be the same). Interned in a couple. I can still smell, a sort of moderist musty dusty concoction.
(DIR) Post #ARRZZptx2lujeJTiBU by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T20:04:19Z
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@vanderwal @debcha @guncelawits Yep -- the smell of massive piles of ringbound documents lined up on shelves in the windows, being slowly baked by the endless sun
(DIR) Post #ARRZaRtvlITbVFlEQa by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T20:03:26Z
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@vanderwal Yes!
(DIR) Post #ARRaGpi5dAW5VYQspU by marksmith@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T20:12:21Z
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@clive It was a wise move to situate the architecture school off-campus.
(DIR) Post #ARRbWqdk2c6CymbD60 by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T20:26:26Z
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@marksmith Probably yeah
(DIR) Post #ARRdGDuEU9lO7gVsWW by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T20:36:06Z
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@guncelawits @vanderwal @clive Nice catch! That specific one is in Oakland.
(DIR) Post #ARRdGEWAD86Y1KGAe8 by migurski@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T20:40:57Z
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@debcha @guncelawits @vanderwal @clive Never noticed this building. I guess I don’t really ride this stretch of 5th.
(DIR) Post #ARRdGEtCpSXJAn2ZYu by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-08T20:44:34Z
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@migurski @debcha @guncelawits @vanderwal That's a beauty
(DIR) Post #ARReP5rJsCGrj4wb1U by debcha@mastodon.social
2023-01-08T20:58:00Z
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@guncelawits @migurski @clive @vanderwal I took the photo when I was staying in Oakland to work on the Situated Systems project.http://situated.systems
(DIR) Post #ARS9F2Cvgvx05IjfBQ by RuralTechie@mstdn.ca
2023-01-09T02:44:13Z
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@clive "Brutalist"? Or just "boring 70s concrete"? They built New and Fort Book while I was there, but my places were University College (with the gryphon on the newel post - anyone got a pic of that?) and the wonderful tower that we had a passkey to. Then the organ loft at Knox College (I'll leave that to your imagination). And the McLuhan lecture space in the Quad. Hart House too...but more pedestrian to me.
(DIR) Post #ARSACJrPhYxFv4wO0G by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-09T02:54:57Z
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@RuralTechie I remember that gryphon!
(DIR) Post #ARTOqeMwSoU1cplzzE by joematango@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-01-09T17:13:39Z
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@clive @debcha @guncelawits Yes! Thinking especially of a dimly remembered children's book with illustrations of buildings like this -- cut-away views showing people happily, purposefully working away inside. Alas, I internalized the lesson that when I grew up, I, too would have an assured place to work happily and well. Adult life turned out to be much more complicated. I'm almost over it.
(DIR) Post #ARVOLIGF02gcOhbg5Q by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-10T16:17:28Z
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@joematango @debcha @guncelawits Yeah -- those books were kind of a mindfuck
(DIR) Post #ARVOR70Rl1YJEFzf5U by guncelawits@mastodon.social
2023-01-09T17:24:25Z
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@clive @joematango @debcha Tangential: At age ~10 or so, ca. 1980, I wrote a story about a big house full of gender-nonconforming children and books and microscopes and tubas, and I SERIOUSLY lucked out on that front.
(DIR) Post #ARVOR7Vdt2VQn0aZiC by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-10T16:17:39Z
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@guncelawits @joematango @debcha AWESOME
(DIR) Post #ARXPdry9SrPGcxUFwu by RuralTechie@mstdn.ca
2023-01-11T15:41:28Z
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@clive She was a beauty!!
(DIR) Post #AReoTINfeSfBDfFBjs by RuralTechie@mstdn.ca
2023-01-15T05:22:41Z
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@clive And here it is!!
(DIR) Post #ARet6by59yxh4wHI3c by clive@saturation.social
2023-01-15T06:14:41Z
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@RuralTechie nice!!