Post ARMVuu2foNx4tWLeUa by trillytrill@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #ARKOpHfdxbq0Rc1v4i by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:01:47Z
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Why The U.S. Hates #Roundabouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqcyRxZJCXc
(DIR) Post #ARKPnGL02s5bgXyRiy by Aporkalypse666@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:12:38Z
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@stux Roundabouts require a level of passive/aggressive driving that Americans are not capable of. Americans do "I'm sitting on the sofa eating cheetos watching Netflix" OR are "murdering millions with space nukes." No in-between. Traffic lights in the US are safer for humanity.
(DIR) Post #ARKPoiqfWotkOpU0a8 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:12:51Z
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What do you think is in general the better solution? (not every case ofc!)
(DIR) Post #ARKPuGPy95wJxddXiy by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:13:56Z
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@Aporkalypse666 haha i saw that was a prob reason indeed 🤔 But imagine all the time lost in your life waiting for the lights wooah! You could walk to the moon and deliver the space nuke yourself and even walk back :bloblaugh:
(DIR) Post #ARKQ5LvxyejoFotITg by Azt3c@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T09:15:57Z
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@stuxLow speeds and light traffic: 60km/h and below - roundabouts.Higher speeds and heavier traffic: traffic lights.
(DIR) Post #ARKQ7w2Yhp52obCoy0 by saint@river.group.lt
2023-01-05T09:16:24Z
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@stux depends on the implementation. @flowere likes roundabouts in some countries and hates in others :)
(DIR) Post #ARKQAkGOwpXb9v1KhU by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:16:55Z
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@Azt3c In the Netherlands often highways get funneled into a smaller road and at some point to a roundabout! :blobcatgiggle: that also works :D but yeah, that seems better
(DIR) Post #ARKQKjOz0RCjNmnQW0 by peterdroberts@eldritch.cafe
2023-01-05T09:17:15Z
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@stux Counter argument: milton keynes
(DIR) Post #ARKQKrUavSRkTVU1NA by thematic@mastodon.green
2023-01-05T09:17:27Z
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@stux As a cyclist, not a fan of traffic lights but it's only the detection coils I take issue with. But I know roundabouts confuse many navel gazers, so it's not quite straightforward.
(DIR) Post #ARKQL3Hv4PRD3fe4HY by jurjen1973@mastodon.nl
2023-01-05T09:18:24Z
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@stux A lot of accidents happen on roundabouts. A lot less with traffic lights.
(DIR) Post #ARKQWI10ef3Zv45uC0 by nic@toot.wales
2023-01-05T09:20:48Z
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@stux as a cyclist, roundabouts are about the most terrifying - luckily there are bike lanes on the two I regularly pass. I don’t think I’d trust the drivers to see me otherwise.
(DIR) Post #ARKQgRQyUUZE1k51UW by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:22:38Z
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@nic Good point! In the Netherlands there are only 2 provinces where bikes have priority over cars on roundabouts, in all other provinces the bikes need to wait
(DIR) Post #ARKQkuP6iuf72AKwXQ by Aporkalypse666@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:23:29Z
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@stux Walk to the moon? How far is that? Americans don't understand the metric system!ha! I really should be sleeping.
(DIR) Post #ARKQmzC7snvaTGFtiK by kaasbaas@social.oevents.co.za
2023-01-05T09:23:42Z
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@stux I am biased - electricity supply is a bit wonky in South Africa currently. Creates so much fun traffic lights are out for a whole area.
(DIR) Post #ARKQpEW7svW8ZXgKga by DjBRINE1@pony.social
2023-01-05T09:24:01Z
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@stux both is great depending on the case.It should not just be one, both contribute a lot to the road safety
(DIR) Post #ARKQts8KXDbib8lOa0 by fabiscafe@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:25:06Z
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@stux As a "Mini Motorways"-Player I have to say: It depends. :blobcatlaugh:
(DIR) Post #ARKQzaM3Y2vZCDuM7c by poag@poag.one
2023-01-05T09:26:05Z
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@stux I was on holiday driving around California when at about midnight i encountered a roundabout on the edge of a small town out of the darkness.We sat at looked at it for a minute, no other cars around. Drove around it as a UK/Euro would. Came back the following day during daylight, cars going every which way, clockwise, counter clockwise. Going all the way around to turn right, or just turningIt remains the only time i have encountered a roundabout in the US or CA in 15k miles driven.
(DIR) Post #ARKQzkX3hzfclF8Hey by FireBirdRises@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:26:09Z
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@stux We e have some double roundabouts that no one can use correctly. The right one turns right or goes forward. The inner, left one goes forward or continues around the roundabout to another exit. When there is no traffic the roundabouts are great.
(DIR) Post #ARKR1oGqmOlCw2X9AO by FireBirdRises@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:26:32Z
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@stux We have some double roundabouts that no one can use correctly. The right one turns right or goes forward. The inner, left one goes forward or continues around the roundabout to another exit. When there is no traffic the roundabouts are great.
(DIR) Post #ARKRGLVtyr9u5dVODY by hydrocabron@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T09:29:09Z
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@stux Saves energy, and brakes and drivetrain as complete stops are less likely than at intersections, and idling is far less likely.In areas with sparse traffic, one can go for miles without coming to a stop.
(DIR) Post #ARKRQwOrgyuLO4GXxo by cautionwip@mstdn.ca
2023-01-05T09:31:03Z
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@stux Is public transit a write-in option?
(DIR) Post #ARKRRkbh1YsV6KeUts by LCMacVeteran@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:31:13Z
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@stux the US needs to get their collective shit together about roundabouts into mainstream. It’s safer. It’s practical, it’s environmentally sound. Sort yourselves out FFS!!!
(DIR) Post #ARKRX9v6L2SD3XJEA4 by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:32:09Z
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@cautionwip :blobcatgiggle: that wouldn't be fair! It would win easily! 😇
(DIR) Post #ARKS3yNSH5hYoUDakK by Noordkaapfujin@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T09:38:06Z
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@stux Banning cars. Pedestrians and cyclists don't need these things.
(DIR) Post #ARKStHauaNYnBNykr2 by biggles@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:47:24Z
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@stux there are so many dashcam videos on YouTube that show accidents where people jump red lights.Sure, there's a few at roundabouts but nothing compared to the traffic light ones
(DIR) Post #ARKT9Vlfelujm4kYIC by stux@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T09:50:13Z
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@pre @chiasm haha wooah! Roundaception-about :thinktink: :blobcatscience:
(DIR) Post #ARKTUm8bzLOgctcU2C by editor@booktoot.social
2023-01-05T09:54:09Z
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@stux As a cyclist, traffic lights. As a motorist, roundabouts.
(DIR) Post #ARKTYd3Zh6NTcU6Krg by EHirschman@bluejay.social
2023-01-05T09:54:51Z
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@stux The problem I see most often with 2 lane roundabouts is that you get stuck in the inner lane and then need to make a right turn to exit, which involves cutting off the driver in the outer lane or waiting to be let in. The problem with single lane roundabouts is that in busy times, the wait to enter the roundabout ( because of the give-way rule) causes a stand-still which doesn't have the built-in release that a traffic light gives.#mytwocents
(DIR) Post #ARKTvFTFYHxX86tdWy by JadziaBenntley@kolektiva.social
2023-01-05T09:58:56Z
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@stux Roundabouts are awesome when people know how to use them to keep traffic flowing. But people are kumquats.
(DIR) Post #ARKUUzOwm7E3iTvUTw by SimonJohnGreen@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T10:05:22Z
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@stux Roundabouts, but maybe not this one:
(DIR) Post #ARKVxlG0Xe8OCX1ouW by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
2023-01-05T10:21:51Z
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@stux The US also hates socialised health care so take whatever they say with a grain of salt.
(DIR) Post #ARKWA4wx9OqckfzOHQ by 8lettersuk@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T10:24:03Z
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@stux I'm more a fan of roundabouts as when there is no traffic cars can be sat pumping out fumes for no reason. Of course another solution is smart traffic lights (or fewer cars).
(DIR) Post #ARKWnxod5wbSD07A92 by uzayran@mastodon.lol
2023-01-05T10:31:12Z
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@stux I'd say roundabouts with separated bike lanes going around, and pedestrian and bike crossings at every entry/exit, maybe speed bumps too
(DIR) Post #ARKX5oBZda7dYRM6SW by oheso@ieji.de
2023-01-05T10:34:27Z
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@stux because they're round
(DIR) Post #ARKXuogPY1atrk6NWK by JPP@aus.social
2023-01-05T10:43:40Z
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@stux It depends on the type of intersection, Also most people I am convinced do not know how to use a roundabout🤔
(DIR) Post #ARKYSkLaAv5qGQXSAC by neocolapsar@octodon.social
2023-01-05T10:49:49Z
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@stux Roundabouts in my town are a mess because people don't know how to drive in them. Yesterday almost got hit by a car because the driver didn't stop, when I was already doing the roundabout. But that happens constantly. Some people just enter the roundabout full speed and don't even look if there's vehicles with priority.
(DIR) Post #ARKZ40GTxLZiLXuzvE by ThetaSigma@fandom.ink
2023-01-05T10:56:29Z
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@stux one of the big problems with traffic lights is where there’s too much inconsistency of traffic over the interconnecting roads. If the road that takes priority over your road is busy but the one that takes priority of that is quiet, it doesn’t matter how busy your road is, you can be stuck without the right to enter the roundabout.
(DIR) Post #ARKZpRRUjCsIFMgots by ChrisT@pettingzoo.co
2023-01-05T11:05:06Z
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@stux Public transport and cyclingfailing that.. traffic lights stuck on red
(DIR) Post #ARKegqU6khSB4udGsa by CTrevethan@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T11:59:36Z
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@stux in the UK they put traffic lights on roundabouts
(DIR) Post #ARKg4ChuOYuGcBn16W by AngharadHafod@toot.wales
2023-01-05T12:14:59Z
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@stux it depends on the situation. On quieter roads the answer is definitely roundabouts, because it keeps the traffic flowing. On busy intersections, traffic lights are probably safer. There is an issue with roundabouts and cyclists though; I'm aware of one roundabout not far from me (Drenewydd, Powys, the McDonald's junction) which was changed to traffic lights, and I'm told it was because the roundabout was too dangerous for cyclists. It was better for cars as a roundabout.
(DIR) Post #ARKh0k2yb32yoQYaH2 by MagicLike@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T12:25:37Z
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@stux I think, it depends on the situation, but not every intersection needs traffic lights...
(DIR) Post #ARKiNpqJJXp3OzCy1Y by johnvoltz@sfba.social
2023-01-05T12:40:59Z
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@stux A roundabout was recently (a yr or 2 ago)installed in Portland ME, not far from where I live and on a route I travel often. IT’S SO MUCH BETTER. Safer for all (cars, bikes, peds); faster throughput; more attractive. What was previously 5 streets coming together in chaos with large expanses of asphalt and confusing traffic signals is now almost serene and park like.To me the key is it’s small size. This helps everyone slow down and know where to go.
(DIR) Post #ARKihAsZKF3O9CUCVU by Doktor_S@social.tchncs.de
2023-01-05T12:44:25Z
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@stux depends
(DIR) Post #ARKixJlm2TOYM00POC by commonusername@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T12:47:24Z
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@stux i think roundabouts are safer for vehicles but unless pedestrian and cyclists are really carefully considered it can be more dangerous for them. I live in a small town with a lot of cyclists and runners and lots of ppl driving huge trucks and I've seen quite a few crashes or near crashes as the trucks don't care about the ppl on foot or bikes.
(DIR) Post #ARKmowSfDKsVZ4KQls by frenchy@mas.to
2023-01-05T13:30:37Z
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@stux Americans: Hold my Budlight:
(DIR) Post #ARKn1jfW5XLVeZROOu by JorgeStolfi@mas.to
2023-01-05T13:33:00Z
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@stux That poll should be asked separately to car drivers and pedestrians...
(DIR) Post #ARKn2Qn7l7ytOcKZjE by Faithinbones@home.social
2023-01-05T13:33:07Z
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@stux I don’t
(DIR) Post #ARKnJGDmJO2BXJp5Zw by ChrisBoese@newsie.social
2023-01-05T13:36:10Z
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@stux My elderly parents can’t get out of their driveway onto a busy roadway because roundabouts never leave a pause in oncoming traffic from either side
(DIR) Post #ARKrGdw65Fme2CYnFg by michaelwong@mstdn.ca
2023-01-05T14:20:23Z
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@stux Single lane roundabouts seem ok but multilane roundabouts seem horrible to me from experience. I'm not used to roundabouts in my area (being in Toronto) but got caught up in the inner lane of a roundabout when on a trip. Took me like 5 times fully around and around till I could get back to the outer lane. Was almost in an accident. I prefer traffic lights in general.
(DIR) Post #ARL5mXTX2SkiccInsO by hydrocabron@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T17:03:09Z
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@stux 8000-lb vehicles cannot easily turn at 75 mph. Nor can drivers manage the contents of a 50-piece McNuggets and a 64-oz soda or latte under high centrifugal loads.Roundabouts will severly curtail pedestrian mortality, unduly burden our pension and healthcare systems, and flood our high schools and colleges with high enrollments, while bankrupting the makers of miniature caskets and cremation urns.
(DIR) Post #ARL631Ee9y6HYPCLZ2 by jujube@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T17:06:06Z
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@stux And better at reducing traffic congestion
(DIR) Post #ARL9s3xo4iKWeBLvGq by AmeliasBrain@mstdn.ca
2023-01-05T17:48:55Z
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@stux As a pedestrian, traffic lights, please! Roundabouts are designed to keep traffic moving without stopping, which is only great if you're part of the flow of traffic. For pedestrians, they just take up extra space & mean that drivers are less likely to be watching for you trying to cross in front of them.
(DIR) Post #ARLTFvB2IFQBTVd9fM by swrdghcnqstdr@mstdn.social
2023-01-05T21:26:12Z
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@stux trains.
(DIR) Post #ARMVuu2foNx4tWLeUa by trillytrill@mstdn.social
2023-01-06T09:30:44Z
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@stux Roundabouts are better, but good lord, by the way ppl in the US react to them, you'd think they stumbled upon an alien spacecraft that landed in the middle of a road.
(DIR) Post #ARO26MWxcjZo7uz0Hg by mattlav1250@journa.host
2023-01-07T03:06:02Z
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@stux Not to exaggerate... but I truly think a huge amount of America's problem policing is actually partly to do with the lack of roundabouts!The constant need for cross sections with either lights or stop signs, even when at very small sites with little traffic, creates a constant climate of low level rule breaking where people roll through because it doesn't seem to matter. That in turn creates endless opportunities for pretextual traffic stops, often for biased reasons!
(DIR) Post #ARO2OnIyocXmNYETgG by OSCrane@universeodon.com
2023-01-07T03:09:23Z
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@stux For most countries, I am fully in favor of roundabouts, but I am American, and I know that by and large, they will not work here. I know this was touched on lightly in the video, but Americans are idiots. In Europe, you can easily live a car-free lifestyle, but in America, you do not have that choice. Here everyone needs a car, so the average skill/confidence level on the road is nonexistent compared to Europe. This is a problem that needs a holistic infrastructural and cultural solution.
(DIR) Post #ARQe2N5fRlDZLkrQ36 by JPP@aus.social
2023-01-08T09:20:32Z
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@stux only problem is most people don’t know how to use them