Post ARIhmIevL4OhSD42Ge by rothgar@mastodon.uno
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(DIR) Post #ARHYQF6cm935JkT6Aa by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-03T21:58:13Z
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Exactly 14 years ago , Satoshi Nakamoto designed the most pathetic / inefficient system ever invented by humankind : the blockchain.Today, it weights 60 000 tons, wastes constantly 10 gigawatts .. to process less than 7 transactions per second : Less than a 33 bps modem from 1990.This could be joke if it didn't have such gigantic environmental impact, wasn't enabling billion dolllars ransomware industry and was not crushing thousands of lives in the process.
(DIR) Post #ARHYQFW9FFSuauPTxA by pokkst@xmrposter.club
2023-01-04T00:05:16.533243Z
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@FranckLeroy The actual system scales well, but BTC has been taken over by big banks via Blockstream funding, strangling its potential by keeping the (supposed to be temporary) 1MB block size limit in place so as to appear useless.
(DIR) Post #ARIgKtHtSfQCzcesJE by Oozeman@freespeechextremist.com
2023-01-04T13:08:41.870572Z
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@pokkst @FranckLeroy I wouldn't bother explaining that much to him. He can't understand the benefits of decentralization of currency because he himself is unobstructed by payment processors and can't picture someone that is. A myopic individual.
(DIR) Post #ARIgPj6EleLuqLVnn6 by chabicht@troot.social
2023-01-03T22:27:10Z
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@FranckLeroy How can you judge the efficiency of the system when you don't know the design goals?If the metric is heat increase in the atmosphere per bit processed, that shit wins hands down.
(DIR) Post #ARIgPjechnrGYzbGO8 by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T10:27:26Z
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@chabicht @FranckLeroy are we sure? How much does it costs to have ATM all around the globe permanently on, manifactured, repaired, sobstituted? Transactions by IBAN? VERY fast, what was? 1/2 days? 4 sometimes.I have the impression sometimes when people make bold accusations in denigratory terms all they want is attentions. You have no point to make, you just want a dopamine dose. Here you are. Yoùre good. Go.
(DIR) Post #ARIgPk8ktlxe4RhKM4 by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-04T12:45:52Z
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@rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroyYou attempted to refute the OP's claim by saying "but what about .... " which is the literal definition of whataboutism.Crypto is an environmentally-destructive, inefficient Ponzi scheme.Blockchain technology has its uses, but its use as a construct for a global currency causes significantly more problems than it solves.
(DIR) Post #ARIgPkb7CKe7UOxyYi by DecaturNature@qoto.org
2023-01-04T13:09:31Z
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@ralf @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy The OP was specifically about making comparisons.
(DIR) Post #ARIhb2Fc0JPXNZqxuK by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T12:49:00Z
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@ralf your use of "Ponzi Scheme" is wrong. If you compare the two. Next: you use Crypto meaning cryptomoney I suppose. But hey, I am the whataboutist here, not the one who posted the link to the study about energy consumpion by bitcoin.So long for the constructive argomentation.@chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARIhb2ndxmdJ57m8x6 by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-04T12:52:53Z
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@rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Crypto (including bitcoin) relies on the ability to exchange it for functional currency in order to be more than Monopoly money.Exchanges have proven, invariably, to be Ponzi schemes.And with regards to your link, I don't see where you posted one. But here's one.https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/05/04/cryptocurrency-energy/
(DIR) Post #ARIhb3Ju1qRAhAruEa by DecaturNature@qoto.org
2023-01-04T13:22:47Z
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@ralf @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Bitcoin existed before the exchanges. Maybe the problem is not with bitcoin itself, but that some people (exchanges) tried to scale it far beyond what it can handle. If it aspired to replace the banking system, maybe it was meant as a first-draft proof-of-principle, rather than the optimized ubercurrency.
(DIR) Post #ARIhmIevL4OhSD42Ge by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T13:24:48Z
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@DecaturNature thank you. @ralf @chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARIhtIViI0uB1K5oAK by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-04T13:25:54Z
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@DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Bitcoin existed before the exchanges, but its value was practically nonexistent as it was only accepted by a small percentage of merchants.In order to be a functional currency, either the ability to exchange it for other functional currencies or mass adoption is a *requirement*.
(DIR) Post #ARIj5SfcRQsbxY5dy4 by vruz@mastodon.social
2023-01-04T12:55:11Z
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@FranckLeroy I wish blockchain haters on grounds of ecology were at least equally or more vocal about their opposition to the carbon footprint of the US Military.- And more accurate: There were no 33 bps modems in 1990.- You're also referring to Proof-of-work blockchains, which are indeed wasteful, but other types of blockchain exist now which aren't.
(DIR) Post #ARIj5XVsR53eymZQye by vruz@mastodon.social
2023-01-04T12:56:29Z
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@FranckLeroy - Your irrational hate is outdated by at least five years, based on the impressions you've got from the original paper of 2009.- A technology is a technology, there is no such thing as evil technology, only evil people who use it. Attack the people who use it.- "Crushing thousands of lives in the process" is absurd.If you're going to spread disinformation, don't do it to make yourself appear as a crusader of ecology and against global warming.Do something against it.
(DIR) Post #ARIj5admo8AQgBIIDo by clacke@libranet.de
2023-01-04T13:12:28Z
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@vruz @FranckLeroy It is easier for an individual to stop using BitCoin than to stop the US from sending their marines.
(DIR) Post #ARJO7lNTxFsYgBp4yG by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-01-04T21:18:47.835977Z
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@vruz @FranckLeroy > there is no such thing as evil technologyEven weapons? We ought to have been past "technology is neutral" since the end of the cold war.
(DIR) Post #ARJVLfvLjBPxUxFFCa by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T13:28:20Z
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@ralf "in your opinion."But it's not by design. So your point is... "hollow"?@DecaturNature @chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARJVLgO40QO0w0gAxU by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-04T13:30:31Z
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@rothgar @DecaturNature @chabicht @FranckLeroy At no point was what I said "opinion."
(DIR) Post #ARJVLgkke4XC4NIIK0 by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T13:35:11Z
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@ralf here: "In order to be a functional currency, either the ability to exchange it for other functional currencies or mass adoption is a *requirement*."Functional currency: a currency I can use. It was used before.Mass adoption: false. Tuscani's fiorini were accepted everywere even without exchangers. By willing it. Bitcoin suffered a ban from banks who preferred to have their owns coins. So it's not a "natural order of things". I will say: debatable? @DecaturNature @chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARJVLh75J2OnBdk88G by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-04T13:42:32Z
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@rothgar @DecaturNature @chabicht @FranckLeroy I understand you have some personal devoted interest/preference to crypto. I personally have no fealty to the current economic system, it's just that crypto is less trustworthy and more damaging than what we have now.Tuscan florin haven't been issued in >150 years so I'm not seeing the relevance to the argument. Your ongoing reference to bitcoin, rather than crypto in general, probably would make you an early adopter with vested interest.
(DIR) Post #ARJVLhcdPjdUlUVKJE by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T13:46:20Z
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@ralf so it's personal attack now? For your sake of interest I am not an early adopter nor have personal interest.But I can explain my attitude. I like to talk about argoments. Blockchain and bitcoin are technologies. People talking about ponzi schemes to me confound one thing with another. Like I said, the crime was to use "poststamps" to fraud people, we didn't dismessed stamps, did we?To address bitcoin as the most "pathetic / inefficent" is emotional@DecaturNature @chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARJVLi29sq3K2eRi5o by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-04T13:52:29Z
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@rothgar @DecaturNature @chabicht @FranckLeroy Destruction of the environment, co-opting the supply chain of necessary components, volatility of markets, ease of abuse by both dregs and extreme capitalists (redundant, i know)... it should be just a little bit emotional. As I stated in my first post, blockchain technology has promising applications outside of get-rich-quick scams.
(DIR) Post #ARJVLiPYTqlfDDOOYq by DecaturNature@qoto.org
2023-01-04T22:40:14Z
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@ralf @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy All of the problems you attributed to bitcoin are just normal everyday behaviors of capitalism. Bitcoin is just one transitory manifestation of those dynamics. If people want to speculate on some asset, the price will be volatile -- whether it's tulips, energy futures, the British pound, or bitcoin. If the cost of environmental destruction is not borne by the people doing it, then people will get rich destroying the environment.
(DIR) Post #ARJViWiE8tsTab0Gye by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-04T22:44:21Z
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@DecaturNature @ralf @rothgar @chabicht Bitcoin is based on the same rotten values than capitalism and designed to unleash it : it's a libertarian utopia (kill the state / pure market). That's no surprise it worsens every bad externality of capitalism.
(DIR) Post #ARJcUMsAd2OyhHqlLU by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-04T23:59:13Z
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blockchain is really the most ugly software creation I've ever seen. and I've been into software development for decades, I can relate. for years I had seen a lot of shit, but the blockchain was the worst of it. people are blinded by the PR and senseless hype around it. but inside it is just ugly and nothing else. software abomination.
(DIR) Post #ARKKNLsuIfAnaYewYy by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-05T08:12:00Z
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@DecaturNature I agree. It seems a no brainer to me.@ralf @chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARKTvAvmQmoH39Cqo4 by marcel@waldvogel.family
2023-01-05T09:58:57Z
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@DecaturNature @ralf @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy My interpretation of Nakamoto's design is that they never expected it to run on more tha a few thousand machines. It was a technology demo. For that, it may be good.It is a technology paper, not a socio-economic paper. They never considered the impact of the economic incentives. And this is where the failures come from. Unfortunately, *that* is the real world, not the handfuls of computers it was supposed to work on.
(DIR) Post #ARKs7BFtRrs4Qls5nE by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-05T14:30:04.436996Z
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@iron_bug @FranckLeroy I've also been in software development for decades, and it is clear you haven't seen much if you think blockchain is the "most ugly" lol. I have seen shit that would turn you white.
(DIR) Post #ARKs8afQSAzLX9UDAW by mike@micro.mkp.ca
2023-01-04T11:07:23.439914Z
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@FranckLeroy Okay, smart guy. How do YOU buy drugs?
(DIR) Post #ARKs8b9ucpNJ3hkYgi by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-04T11:46:29Z
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@mike I grow my own. #BeYourOwnDealer
(DIR) Post #ARKs8bZR5vn8KrgwTI by mike@micro.mkp.ca
2023-01-04T11:56:23.419171Z
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@FranckLeroy One can’t be one’s own everything. I can’t host my own Fedi node, synthesize my own LSD, cut my own hair, recycle my own PET, ferment my own Jenkem, educate my own children, grow my own weed, dig my own post holes, process my own coca leaves, do my own taxes, cook my own bath salts, run my own food co-op, brew my own DMT, and fix my own bike. Something has to give. That’s the whole reason we have society, money and cryptocurrency in the first place: so we don’t all individually have to do everything, and well enough that it’s worth the effort.Fortunately I live someplace where the state does not interfere very much with my procurement of the things I require to have life and meaning, but not everyone is that fortunate, and that is one of the use cases cryptocurrency exists to serve. There are many valid criticisms of how people have chosen to use cryptocurrency and there are many valid concerns about how some of the popular ones have been designed. However, many people take a position that it is nothing more than a scam with no valid use cases at all. That is dogmatic.
(DIR) Post #ARKs8bzfWOm7eDxtMO by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-04T12:11:31Z
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@mike I see it lie a neo colonianism. Those technical empires are designed / built / run / promoted by rich white guys and big whales, who get huge benefits from it (mining, manipulating the market, ponzi etc).On the other hand, thousands of poor suckers loose the life savings on hacks, rugpul, lost wallets, price dumps, etcI don't really buy the "banking the unbanked" mantra.
(DIR) Post #ARKs8cQbuEKGzmZPM0 by mike@micro.mkp.ca
2023-01-04T12:18:11.554415Z
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@FranckLeroy You stick a “crypto-“ in front of “currency” and suddenly everyone’s an anti-capitalist. Where the fuck was that passion ten years ago.
(DIR) Post #ARKsPTKMzlFrh2ggD2 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2023-01-05T14:33:20.999940Z
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@Moon @iron_bug @FranckLeroy By "most ugly" he means "allows the most chuds to control their own money." Just look at his account. Shit, look at the instance he's on.
(DIR) Post #ARMzDpNCIBQwaRKAaG by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-06T14:58:51.690313Z
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> to process less than 7 transactions per secondlol what
(DIR) Post #ARMzIp7eeTCJG0R8Oe by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-01-06T15:00:02.073932Z
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@feld @FranckLeroy antis never update their script
(DIR) Post #ARMzOA9Xt8NtvironY by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-06T15:00:44.452439Z
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you can fit thousands of transactions in a single block
(DIR) Post #ARN00kCmIOFqkQmAvg by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
2023-01-06T15:07:54Z
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@FranckLeroy And yet, it is still better then inflationary banking system. Curious.
(DIR) Post #ARN02hsRvCU46iCfBI by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-01-06T15:07:58.522757Z
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turn this antie into an uncle
(DIR) Post #ARN510KKr1ziWIFpKq by ludomire@tooting.ch
2023-01-05T07:53:22Z
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@FranckLeroyI don't agree about Bitcoin efficiency,about the dumb comparison with country (compare with bank system please), about the stupid number of 7 tx per second (you don't know about Lightning Network and other layers protocol working on top of #Bitcoin)@Framasoft, vous me décevez de relayer de telles fakenews sur un logiciel libre et réseau p2p indépendant des GAFAM et des banques, utilisé par Julian Assange et d'autres activistes dans le monde.
(DIR) Post #ARN510vubK3IOpppuC by ludomire@tooting.ch
2023-01-05T08:06:33Z
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@FranckLeroy @Framasoft Sources (about #Bitcoin efficiency in comparison with actual payment system) :https://journal-of-insurance-and-financial-management.com/index.php/JIFM/article/view/292https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjxLxNIQoyMEn français : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_z0jtMC_L4Sources about Lightning Network:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1n3sKKPD_khttps://1ml.com/statisticsYou can hate Bitcoin if you want but just don't base your hate on biased argument.And please, for your credibility, propose a better alternative if you can.(And please, let Satoshi Nakamoto rest in peace.)
(DIR) Post #ARN511QkkeipwUGSye by alexis_roussel@piratenpartei.social
2023-01-05T08:35:03Z
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@ludomireEt pourtant @Framasoft parle d'émancipation numérique. C'est dommage de se couper de ses utilisateurs. Framasoft en sortirait plus fort en intégrant des paiements en BTC.Mais je crois que le fond de l'histoire est que la communauté OpenSource française doit passer le cap idéologique de la peur de l'argent et au reconnaitre que Bitcoin est le fruit du travail de cette communauté. C'est notre communauté d'ailleurs aussi.@FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARN512BXwg9WHc9pui by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-05T09:02:49Z
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@alexis_roussel @Framasoft @ludomire la communauté de framasoft place l'humain et le politique avant le technofanatisme et sait reconnaître un projet purement libertarien géré et poussé par une armée de truands et infesté d'arnaques.Merci à framasoft !
(DIR) Post #ARN512ho0jxNtfFbCC by ludomire@tooting.ch
2023-01-05T09:14:50Z
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@FranckLeroy @alexis_roussel @Framasoft Vous m'accusez de truand? Sur quels informations basez-vous cette accusation? Qui êtes vous pour juger de manière aussi péremptoire les opinions politiques de toute une communauté ? Pour ma part, je ne suis pas libertarien et je sais reconnaître un projet qui s'affranchit du contrôle capitaliste, un commun numérique.J'organise un événement annuel public de plusieurs centaines de Bitcoineurs, ce n'est ni une rencontre de truants, ni de libertariens.
(DIR) Post #ARN5136cWTo38crPsG by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-05T09:20:10Z
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@ludomire @alexis_roussel @Framasoft Les figures de proue des cryptos monnaies sont des dégénérés complets, dopés à la cocoaïne, ancrés au coeur du capitalisme et qui ne rèvent que d'une chose : la fin de l'état et l'avènement du marché pur, sans taxe : Elon Musk, Saylor, SBF, ... Ils excitent des armées de jeunes mascu désoeuvrés accrocs au jeux d'argent en leur faisant miroiter de l'argent facile, pour mieux les plumer. C'est un désastre. "s'affranchit du contrôle capitaliste" LOL.
(DIR) Post #ARN513V53XN8MUIx04 by ludomire@tooting.ch
2023-01-05T09:32:23Z
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@FranckLeroy @alexis_roussel @Framasoft Elon Musk, SBF, figures de proue de Bitcoin ? Je vois que j'ai affaire à un spécialiste. 🤡 Dans tous les événements #Bitcoin, je n'ai pas encore vu tourner de cocaïne. Mais comme je ne suis ni masculiniste, ni accroc aux jeux d'argent, je pense qu'on ne me fait pas confiance.Vous êtes ridicule. Renseignez vous avant de crier au complot.Vous recommandez quelle alternative? C'est pas le tout de dire que Bitcoin=caca, il faut proposer des alternatives
(DIR) Post #ARN5140HBYKFvEtrcm by miosety@gs.leftic.club
2023-01-06T16:03:59Z
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@ludomire @FranckLeroy @alexis_roussel @Framasoft "Vous recommandez quelle alternative?"La seule qui me permet de paye mon loyer, ma nourriture...
(DIR) Post #ARN6gULaFFGfS8BQ2q by ludomire@tooting.ch
2023-01-06T16:22:42Z
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@miosety @FranckLeroy @alexis_roussel @Framasoft Et quelle est elle ? L'argent-dette des banques commerciales ? Le cash de la BCE ? Sa CBDC qui calquée sur le modèle du e-yuan ? (Central bank digital currencies qui n'existe pas encore)Et avez vous conscience que de nombreuses personnes ne peuvent obtenir de compte bancaire en Europe : sans papiers, personnes qui ont eu un problème de découvert avec leur banque, etc.Et les 40% de non-bancarisé dans le monde ?
(DIR) Post #ARNsxNhozBxzZshoFk by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-06T15:59:34Z
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@fu Seems you have been fooled into the revolution of the rich landlords.https://mastodon.online/@FranckLeroy/109642647336067980
(DIR) Post #AROYbJDdBSYHMjk3s0 by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-07T08:59:54Z
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@iron_bug @fu Wealth has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or hard work. It has everything to do with inherited capital : inherited money, culture, network. Elon Musk proves it. Billionaires should not exist / should be expropriated. There is absolutely no moral, ethical, nor economical reason to let individual accumulate infinite wealth and power and control others. A society allowing it is deeply sick.
(DIR) Post #AROYbMfkLNpA4nv3bs by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T09:09:47Z
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>Wealth has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or hard work. yes, it DOES. and this is the only way to earn anything. people are born all equal: bare and stupid. but then everything depends on a person. he may get successful and wealthy or may wine about "social justice" )an abstact chimaera that never existed) and live on handouts that are (by the way) extorted from pockets of wealthy and successful people. but evil envious lazy butts prefer to ignore the source of their income and imagine money grow in the trees or something. but all they do is parasiting on capitalism.
(DIR) Post #AROYtUJcfJzKzgDGAy by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T09:12:17Z
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get sober and accept the facts.
(DIR) Post #AROalHBhn2I7s2io1w by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-07T09:27:33Z
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@iron_bug @fu this is not about facts. this is about your views on this world. Getting rich is such a lame ambition to start with! I do believe we should not let the rich rule this world. The inequalities are insane, the path they oblige us to take is deadly and their fortune is backed by thief (tax escape) and misery (exploiting nature and the poor). This system is sick.
(DIR) Post #AROalHhFtjWpRtU0Cu by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T09:33:34Z
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but this is your ambition, not mine. I just work, earn a lot and feel all right. and I donàt want to share my earned money with those who don't work and whine about damn socialism that ruined so many countries.
(DIR) Post #ARObAx2XK0taucfxlQ by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T09:38:04Z
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and money does not condense from the thin air like socialists imainge. no, they extort money from people that really work and share them among bullshit kickers that don't want to make efforts for their own wealth. and this is why socialism is equal to fascism. it cannot exist without force, threats and extortion.
(DIR) Post #AROd5TYViSWbve9FlA by Setok@attractive.space
2023-01-03T23:04:58Z
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@FranckLeroy it’s also the most immutable data store ever created. And one that isn’t controlled by anyone. I still find that fascinating.
(DIR) Post #AROd5UDdFZPzzBO5r6 by adamrice@c.im
2023-01-03T23:10:37Z
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@Setok @FranckLeroy It would be possible to develop a distributed, immutable datastore that didn't involve boiling the planet.
(DIR) Post #AROd5UdVhM7PHRUlBw by Setok@attractive.space
2023-01-03T23:15:33Z
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@adamrice @FranckLeroy if you know how, I’m very sure the world would be keen to know. #ethereum has #PoS, but that has its own problems in that it even further rewards big wallets, and even Ethereum history has been rewritten while Bitcoin hasn’t.
(DIR) Post #ARPM1ayMh4hHi9lVk8 by alexis_roussel@piratenpartei.social
2023-01-07T12:23:35Z
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@FranckLeroy @fuwe understand you hate money, and you have the right to fight against the system that made it. But you are trying to hit hard (and failing) on the only alternative that also despises the old system. My suggestion is work on a (other) alternative and rally people around that. Being only in the oppostion won't make the world you want appear.and you are always welcome to present you project in our local events.@iron_bug
(DIR) Post #ARPM1c9OJZ6xMdvpZI by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T18:22:46Z
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man, those sjw fighters cannot produce anything. tney can only destroy anything, set up rallies, set fire to restaurants and rob supermarkets. that's all. and this is all what socialists did for centuries. they rob other people and call this 'justice'. they don't work. even the main apologete of socialism, Marx, was a homeless and jobless beggar that lived in a loft of his capitalist friend Engels that kept a little store and earned money for that freeloader to survive. he hated the world for his own loser life and wrote a book on capital, while he has never ever seen the real capital and did not have an idea what it is. lazy and envious people never produce anything. they only whine that the whole world is wrong and evil, everybody against them, hidden enemies and government spies under their bed, they want more money just because they're so nice, but they don't plan to do anything to carry out any projects to make their life better. all other people live in the same world and often in much worse conditions and do it fine. because they work and make efforts to make the world a better place. they don't try to extort money from anybody and simply earn it fairly.
(DIR) Post #ARPOiC858UmT1OkcPg by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-07T18:47:39Z
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@iron_bug @fu @alexis_roussel You need to take your medicines now.
(DIR) Post #ARPOiCtwGZ3tPp8q0W by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T18:53:43Z
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and this is all you can say? no wonder, quite predictable reaction of liars and hypocrites when they get exposed. people dislike truth. this is not my problem. I didn't say a word of lies. but you get pissed off and begain this cheap bullshit. this means you've got no arguments. just.
(DIR) Post #ARPgO0tL0TL9YFNgVU by sunnjek@mastodon.social
2023-01-04T10:44:28Z
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@rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Just gonna leave this here: https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g?t=1009
(DIR) Post #ARPgQaTffZsWUybRiK by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T11:02:55Z
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@sunnjek @chabicht @FranckLeroy thank you very much! Seems very interesting and informative I will look it entirely.Just for another perspective:https://www.cnbctv18.com/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-gold-traditional-banking-which-uses-most-energy-15117061.htmand:https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2022/06/16/how-crypto-and-cbdcs-can-use-less-energy-than-existing-payment-systems
(DIR) Post #ARPgQbWBnhUFj4myHI by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-04T11:07:43Z
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@rothgar @sunnjek @chabicht "Bitcoin Mining Council" is the Bitcoin lobby. It can't be trusted to provide figures about how "green" it is.It's like trusting the tobbacco industry publishing a study of how good smoking is for your health.Here is academic / peer reviewed data about the footprint of Bitcoin :https://ccaf.io/cbeci/ghg/indexSee also my article comparing the impact of Gold and Bitcoin :https://medium.com/crypto-lucid/gold-is-now-a-green-bitcoin-d12c439cca0f
(DIR) Post #ARPgQbwmCqkp3XECie by chabicht@troot.social
2023-01-04T12:22:50Z
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@FranckLeroy @rothgar @sunnjek Also cf. the estimated power consumption of processing _a single_ bitcoin transaction. That’s insane.Edit: Source https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption/
(DIR) Post #ARPgQcMIfxAeKhAaVE by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T12:33:29Z
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@chabicht @FranckLeroy @sunnjek FFS...1) first if your numbers were not correct, please state it. If they were correct disprove me.2) You are entitled to your opinion, but you do understand it's an opinion?How much energy it costs to build *one* Ferrari? Is it f***ing worth it? Why?Because people are willing to pay for it?Why should it be different for bitcoins? Or any other f**ing thing? A purse? Sneakers? wine?So, is it *much*? For you? Yes. Generally speacking? No.
(DIR) Post #ARPgQcxASsf4B2Q1y4 by sunnjek@mastodon.social
2023-01-04T12:59:23Z
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@rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Is it much compared to already existing systems? Yes, quite a lot more, actuallyhttps://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption#comparisonAlso, I don't see what people buying sneakers or wine has to do with a comparison of the power consumption of bitcoin vs. "traditional" banks.
(DIR) Post #ARPgQdT4YGBLlzLVhI by LizardSF@universeodon.com
2023-01-04T13:37:19Z
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@sunnjek @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy It has nothing to do with it. That's the point. It's a distraction and a way for them to ignore the problems. All human activity costs energy. 8 billion people living day to day consume a LOT of energy, and engage in many, many, transactions.The difference is, the energy of producing a ham sandwich and getting it into mah belleh provides me, and the 100s of people involved, from the pig farmer to the deli clerk, some value.Bitcoin provides nothing.
(DIR) Post #ARPgTKmgTQ68hAo1x2 by rothgar@mastodon.uno
2023-01-04T13:40:37Z
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@LizardSF You have a point here. But even normal banks have transactions costs. Someone who can debate my numbers? We are running around. @sunnjek @chabicht @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ARPgTLL4PZbUPotUY4 by LizardSF@universeodon.com
2023-01-04T13:59:40Z
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@rothgar @sunnjek @chabicht @FranckLeroy /4 But while trade can be uneven and unfair (we call that 'understatement'), it still requires all involved get *something*, even if it's less than they want or truly deserve. Bitcoin provides nothing, and the promises it someday will provide something ring hollower each day.Now, I gotta get back to exchanging my time and attention for my paycheck, so I can exchange that for necessities and luxuries. And so it goes.
(DIR) Post #ARPh05uimYJO8FBcx6 by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-07T19:06:52Z
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@iron_bug @fu @alexis_roussel I leave you with your fantasy world and your hate.
(DIR) Post #ARPh06PYvsyvftcG1Y by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
2023-01-07T22:18:01Z
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I don't hate anybody, you do. you hate those tho has more money than you, by some reason, and want to rob them in any way. socialists always created problems for people. capitalism feeds all that mob, provides the benefits of civilization, but they remain ungrateful and behave aggressively. and want to extort money from others. this is absolutely weird.I'm not aggressive. I stand for fair work and no preferences for anyone. everyone has his chance to get wealthy if he's not lazy and stupid, works hard and tries his best. and this does not imply picking money from others' pockets. and I am not delusional. you are. socialism is a disease. invented by crazy beggar that knew nothing about economics and could not even make enough money for his own wife or have his own corner. this is named "loser". and thus complete loser wriote a book you worship now. huh! are you serious? that delisuons of a pissed off loser had never had anything in common with reality and/or with economics. I'm absolutely sane, skeptic, always sober and ctitical. I know the world is the place of possibilities and concurrence. and this is fine and fair. and I dislike all those fascist regimes aka socialism, communism. they're just the stages of fascism, really. they suppress the free will and freedom of people. they ruin economics and destroy countries. and I would never recommend that bullshit to others. because I'm sane and not evil.
(DIR) Post #ARQObH1KPMxPOQS3pQ by rieger_san@mastodontech.de
2023-01-05T11:02:30Z
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@marcel @DecaturNature @ralf @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy nope!Hal Finney discussed this right from the start.Also the Cypherpunks know this before. #Bitcoin was not the first try to create a digital money!Bitcoin is the first implementation which was successful because all problems were solved
(DIR) Post #ARQObHcYAyjPFrrmqW by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-05T11:19:16Z
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@rieger_san @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Except they weren't. They destroyed the PC gaming market for a year, to the cost of billions of dollars. The amount of environmental damage done by mining is literally inestimable in terms of economic and ecological impact.
(DIR) Post #ARQObI1Mgia4UpTbWa by rieger_san@mastodontech.de
2023-01-05T11:27:28Z
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@ralf @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy no one is mining #Bitcoin with graphic cards Bitcoin need ASIC Miners since many years
(DIR) Post #ARQObIRF8VHTn5aGrQ by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-05T11:28:15Z
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@rieger_san @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Bitcoin is crypto. And it's all bullshit that gets lumped together. No saying "but it's bitcoin not crypto." That's crap logic.
(DIR) Post #ARQObIwnFCWBMwLT2O by rieger_san@mastodontech.de
2023-01-05T11:31:29Z
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@ralf @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht @FranckLeroy Bitcoin is not Crypto! There is huge difference you will understand when you dig deeper into #Bitcoin
(DIR) Post #ARQObJNNeLmkhOmhTk by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-05T11:33:46Z
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@rieger_san @ralf @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht "Bitcoin is not Crypto!"I have to admit : The amount of new delusional mantras that this cult produces is truly amazing.
(DIR) Post #ARQObJvPbp0WOwhsWW by htimsxela@bitcoinhackers.org
2023-01-08T06:27:35Z
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@FranckLeroy @rieger_san @ralf @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency, but saying "bitcoin is not (what people colloquially refer to as) crypto"is just a way of pointing out that bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency that has any chance of maintaining censorship resistance for it's users. And that's what is actually of value here anyways! If that censorship resistance is lost, I'd actually start to agree with the OP toot here.
(DIR) Post #ARQSYhBj3oM5UyLDXs by ralf@noc.social
2023-01-08T07:11:57Z
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@htimsxela @FranckLeroy @rieger_san @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht obviously you don't recall the amount seized by USGOV during the silk road raid.
(DIR) Post #ARQSnCB6dZ1tfNxutM by htimsxela@bitcoinhackers.org
2023-01-08T07:14:35Z
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@ralf @FranckLeroy @rieger_san @marcel @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht I know about that. I'm not overly concerned about 'censorship' by way of the US gov controlling a bunch of coins though?
(DIR) Post #ARQVedYBnX5zogNBh2 by marcel@waldvogel.family
2023-01-08T07:46:30Z
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@htimsxela @ralf @FranckLeroy @rieger_san @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht What *is* "censorship" then for you, in terms of digital assets? If it is neither seisure (obove) nor blocking ("assets coming out of address X cannot be used for legal purposes", has also been declared)?
(DIR) Post #ARSoLp8CnqrTg2sjgm by htimsxela@bitcoinhackers.org
2023-01-09T10:25:35Z
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@marcel @ralf @FranckLeroy @rieger_san @DecaturNature @rothgar @chabicht The seizure of those assets was via the private keys being compromised, which is different than someone having the ability to censor via arbitrary and/or unilateral decisions. The latter is more the concern, though censorship can take other forms as well. & addresses have been sanctioned by regulatory bodies, but you can still send bitcoin to them if you'd like. The regulators might not like that though.
(DIR) Post #ARfmcLNhrLHQNiPK2S by lertsenem@mastodon.lertsenem.com
2023-01-04T10:30:06Z
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@FranckLeroy Well yeah, but remember it also solved a problem nobody really had⸮
(DIR) Post #ARfmdH1NYVsn9GPJI0 by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-04T10:32:02Z
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@lertsenem Now we just need to invent a very big computer that will find the problem blockchain solves.
(DIR) Post #ARfmdHRxxf9MTiqXjM by lertsenem@mastodon.lertsenem.com
2023-01-04T10:37:32Z
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@FranckLeroy Nah, a big computer would be too easy. How about making part of the blockchain itself using Ethereum? Now that would be smart!
(DIR) Post #ARkjbMik4ANsAot7ui by Yetimon@noagendasocial.com
2023-01-04T06:53:30Z
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@FranckLeroy <cough>bullshit<cough>
(DIR) Post #ARkjoB8OSGgS0Izp8C by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:13:00Z
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@FranckLeroy TBH, #Bitcoin only works as a tool for #Oligarchs from the #PRC & #Russia to circumvent #CapitalFlight restrictions and #Sanctions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g
(DIR) Post #ARkjoBcAfYVFUevbXs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2023-01-18T01:59:29.725426Z
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@kkarhan @FranckLeroy they are not the only people who can use it as a tool. You and I can, too.
(DIR) Post #ARkjoCbUzXYkYrca8W by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:15:25Z
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@FranckLeroy That being said more people have and are still being been #scam|med with classical 419's and shady #Forex crap as well as organized #ShockCalling and #TechSupportScam|s using #GiftCards as means to facilitate #MoneyLaundering...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_rgQ4IDS8
(DIR) Post #ARkjoE89JdGrIPuAfQ by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:16:44Z
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@FranckLeroy IMHO #Monero is "the least worst cryptocurrency" but solely by virtue of being impossible to be abused for #NFT|s and other bs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H33ggs7bh8M
(DIR) Post #ARkjoFaXtXZzomCMZE by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:19:50Z
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@FranckLeroy What is however needed is more #FinancialLiteracy and espechally #TechLiteracy and a healthy truckload of scepticism.1. NOTHING IS FOR FREE - NOT EVEN BIRTH OR DEATH!2. If something would allow people to magically make more money, they'd keep it a secret and not share it with stangers.3. On the Internet, NOBODY IS YOUR FRIEND! Not even the charismatic YouTuber. To them you're only a consumer worth engaging with to make money from - often indirectly. https://mastodon.online/@FranckLeroy/109627512801712672
(DIR) Post #ARkjoHEdlxFIvPxthY by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:21:30Z
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@FranckLeroy Everything else would be kinda supporting scammers...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDPTiFHfcs
(DIR) Post #ARkjoImi0m5jjMucRU by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:29:53Z
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@FranckLeroy that being said as #TheDAO and the #Ethereum - #Backroll has shown: Major #Stakeholders [aka. the 51%] on a #Blockchain are perfectly able to undo scammy transactions against all ideological claims.They just purposefully decide not to do so in almost all cases for their own greedy interests, making them less accountable than any [central] bank ever!https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g?t=7173
(DIR) Post #ARkjoKFSZMgSGpN5tY by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-01-04T14:34:08Z
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@FranckLeroy the #HardFork aka. "#Ethereumclassic" isn't any better, but unlike #VitalikButerin and others I can at least take them serious as they are at consequent in their ideology and refuse to #backroll anything.Which sadly makes them more honest among greedy assholes and scammy grifters.https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g?t=7219https://ethereumclassic.org/
(DIR) Post #ARkjt28pJmsZYoVv60 by Decentralize_today@mastodon.social
2023-01-05T04:21:55Z
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@FranckLeroy @JRepin here you go! Because why researching when attacking does the same job https://dt.gl/tweetstorm-the-simple-assumption-that-distorts-the-bitcoin-energy-usage-debate/
(DIR) Post #ARklAqpoC9H9eyg72u by nikita_squirrel@home.social
2023-01-07T22:23:44Z
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@FranckLeroy #Bitcoin, the alpha version, was junk. #Ethereum, a beta version, was scarcely better. #ProofOfWork was the dumbest, least scalable and most irresponsible accounting method imaginable. Can we redesign GPUs so that new ones can't support #ProofOfWork algorithms? Then when #BitcoinHalving occurs it should quickly become uneconomic and collapse under its own bloated weight. We need to stop the mining arms race and ditch all the proof of work blockchains.
(DIR) Post #ARklArNUAwDLLQR0XQ by FranckLeroy@mastodon.online
2023-01-07T22:27:14Z
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@nikita_squirrel Bitcoin is not mined on GPU since a long time now. Only ASICs (custom chips designed specifically for it, and unable to process anything useful) are profitable to mine bitcoin now. There is nothing you can do against it. Also the protocol (difficulty) automatically adapts to the global computing power. Making it more / less difficult does not change energy consumption. It is "resistant" to any technical improvement !
(DIR) Post #ARklArsKKGsst4rdbs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2023-01-18T02:14:46.691614Z
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@FranckLeroy @nikita_squirrel > There is nothing you can do against it.Censorship resistance is something usefulI can, and have donated to wikileaks and no one stopped me.If I had to use paypal or other legacy means, I would have not been able to do this.
(DIR) Post #ARlELUZ2EZ6iRfG6HQ by blobfrog@blob.cat
2023-01-18T07:41:41.180573Z
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@lanodanYes. A handgun that I use to avert a crime from happening isn't evil.@vruz @FranckLeroy
(DIR) Post #ATnYEljtASZUAmOzbM by chris@abraham.su
2023-03-20T06:18:10Z
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@FranckLeroyIt's the best@AndrewMLane
(DIR) Post #AVLJJZm2dfuYl0hTU0 by lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments
2023-05-05T11:03:05.021004Z
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@FranckLeroy crypto is necessary in any society that doesn't prohibit corporate payment processors from discriminating against legal transactions. I'm willing to tolerate all the negatives just because of that
(DIR) Post #AVLKFGDJWMWUt8xkSu by meso@asbestos.cafe
2023-05-05T11:13:41.814174Z
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@FranckLeroy you GLOW dawg. Gee I really wonder who would create a fake identity to campaign against making banks crypto-basedw5ZCJUbuKwuO8A.png2Cqxk4YY151MgQ.pngrHPYE3TReNCeWg.png8Qv4oOe7SJYFCg.pngyjqAv9JcsUhfXA.pngyGd-wFKCBDCdOA.pngKw8X__uLTtZB0A.png
(DIR) Post #AYqsTls8JNvcKHnAFk by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-08-18T10:09:37.531179Z
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@FranckLeroy don't worry plenty of bitcoin bros have moved on from mining to AI/ML which I have heard absolutely zero environmental concerns over so it's fine.
(DIR) Post #AYqskINPEFO1loIbAG by charliebrownau@poa.st
2023-08-18T10:12:38.079631Z
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@thatguyoverthere @FranckLeroy Using electronic ((( Currency ))) via the ((( system))) is totally a method to avoid ((( Government))) and ((( Central banks )))) goyimDont go back to cashdigital coin goyim
(DIR) Post #AYqtTqtdjP8rrZ6DTc by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-08-18T10:20:50.859106Z
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@charliebrownau @FranckLeroy you mean the cash backed by fed loans?
(DIR) Post #AYquDeJKr9a29NxKBE by charliebrownau@poa.st
2023-08-18T10:29:08.674961Z
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@thatguyoverthere @FranckLeroy Until enough people in one village, one town, one district are all willing to use physical cash and support Localism and Local small businessThen we can ditch the ((( fed state))) currencyand use Local Currency backed by HOURS
(DIR) Post #AYqwUIqU7JMsPMWvUO by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-08-18T10:54:32.674607Z
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@charliebrownau @FranckLeroy that will only ever work if the state/local government stops requiring property tax in fedbacks. As long as I need the fed's dollar to keep my property there is no way to completely off ramp. That said, there is nothing except technical issues and FUD preventing local businesses from accepting monero or other decentralized currencies. I have plans to work through some of the technical hurdles, but the FUD is really what needs broken.
(DIR) Post #AYqwp3Kkz5hYNeaGDQ by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-08-18T10:58:18.104659Z
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@charliebrownau @FranckLeroy also are all hours created equally? I don't think the hours spent making cups of coffee are necessarily equal to the same hours spent performing a surgery or building homes. This isn't to say the work isn't at all valuable, but a currency only backed by hours of labor seems to ignore the nuance in the value of skilled labor. To pay everyone equally on a flat hourly basis regardless of the skill required or importance of the work seems a little bit communist.
(DIR) Post #AYsEeD7aFMsNsqMUrY by nomadbynature@101010.pl
2023-08-19T01:52:44Z
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@FranckLeroy i wonder what's the environmental impact of the world's banking system?
(DIR) Post #AYsob2o5jgAxNK2Ame by specktator_@kafeneio.social
2023-08-19T08:35:31Z
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@FranckLeroy this analysis/conclusion is so wrong at so many levels. Please stop and do further and in-depth analysis on the matter. First of all, Nakamoto didn't create blockchain, Haber did. Document stamping has a long history in computer science.😀
(DIR) Post #AYsvCLYbaLMDy2xdM8 by gvs@rebelbase.site
2023-08-19T09:49:31.527152Z
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Wait till I show you the fiat scam. You will love that.Note, not a bitcoin fan myself, but anything better then a communist institution mandating and manipulating our store of value. I'd rather use seashells over fiat
(DIR) Post #AYtC5R1eYNKK7aq09I by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-08-19T12:58:24.842093Z
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> process less than 7 transactions per secondlol you're still parroting this
(DIR) Post #AYtQGWmyreugXX9tKa by raphael@mastodon.communick.com
2023-08-19T14:42:05Z
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@feld @FranckLeroy How much does the US Armed Forces weight, and how much energy do they consume (along with all the financial institutions) to secure the USD as the world's reserve currency?
(DIR) Post #AYtQGXvAeh3i3Dzwjg by raphael@mastodon.communick.com
2023-08-19T14:45:56Z
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@feld @FranckLeroy Also, why do you say "blockchain" when the "problem" with Bitcoin is its consensus algorithms. Ethereum also has a blockchain and it is considered robust enough to secure hundreds of billions of dollars while consuming less energy than all the videogame consoles use while in standby.
(DIR) Post #AYtQGYetufdeL3OT0y by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-08-19T15:37:07.847918Z
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Bitcoin's energy use isn't a problem anyway, it's a myth. The economics of it drive you to the cheapest most renewable / trapped energy sources. Idiots could use oil and coal to mine bitcoin but they'll be out of business before long
(DIR) Post #AYzCOEXaMW3RqnUtU0 by selea@social.linux.pizza
2023-08-22T10:30:20Z
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@FranckLeroy 7 transactions per second, holy shit!