Post ARHa53GFoo4SPPzn72 by ava@social.sunnypup.io
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 (DIR) Post #ARHa52mTbWFev440hM by elektrikfisch@mastodon.happykraken.net
       2023-01-01T23:31:13Z
       
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       Everybody who sounded alarms about Mastinator and filled #FediBlock with posts to block it need to evaluate whether the Fediverse is right for them. As I reminded multiple people who I believe have now blocked me, Mastinator only made use of the ActivityPub standard as published. It wasn't hacking, it wasn't "scraping", it wasn't abusing the network in any way that countless actual bad actors couldn't. @boyter's post on the front page of https://mastinator.com/ is a good read. #MastoAdmin
       
 (DIR) Post #ARHa53GFoo4SPPzn72 by ava@social.sunnypup.io
       2023-01-03T16:29:19Z
       
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       @elektrikfisch @boyter > joined December 2022And you're already spokesperson for what is good and right on this network huh?
       
 (DIR) Post #ARHa53iy632VqTQirw by josemanuel@qoto.org
       2023-01-04T00:23:51Z
       
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       @ava A trans person telling other people that they’re not valid because (absurd, made up) reasons? I never thought I’d live to see that!@elektrikfisch @boyter
       
 (DIR) Post #ARHcX1iNMSx9d5cI2y by boyter@honk.boyter.org
       2023-01-04T00:29:02Z
       
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       @josemanuel I respect their reasoning and thinking. A large portion of what is being used was built by similar people. We owe them a lot for what was done in the early days.I just want people to realise this is all public, and if you aren't comfortable with that you need to rethink how you communicate online. There are lots of other tools that offer privacy if that's what you want, or at least consider having your own federation with an allow-list.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARHcX2BRcOCn5FDVM8 by josemanuel@qoto.org
       2023-01-04T00:51:18Z
       
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       @boyter I realised this was all public (including DMs) in 2017, but still don’t like seeing the protocol being abused just because it is possible to do so. In that, I agree with what @ceoln said in that thread.Think of the Fediverse like any other human society. In society there are rules, but that doesn’t mean people can’t break them. The question is, if rules can be broken, why do most people abide by them? Because we all implicitly know that following the rules (most of them, at least) makes sense. There’s no incentive for us to break them, but following them helps us live more carefreely.That’s why my follows are still open to this day. Not because I don’t care about my posts being published somewhere else (I do and I don’t like it), but because the possibility of that happening was negligible.I think you’re deflecting the issue. We all knew this was all public. We didn’t need you to open our eyes to that fact. We need you to take the next step and come up with an idea that makes us safer instead.
       
 (DIR) Post #ARLW6SBqzoP2pXBqzI by ceoln@qoto.org
       2023-01-03T06:19:42Z
       
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       @elektrikfisch "Evaluate whether the Fediverse is right for them"? Seriously? Is "they weren't doing anything a bad person couldn't do" really the line you want to go with? Not everything allowed by a protocol is good; that's obvious. SMTP allows spam."Sure they broke your windows, but your windows were breakable! They weren't doing anything a real vandal couldn't have done!"Blocks make it a bit harder for the blocked people to stalk and interact. Sure, it's not perfect or 100%, on the other hand it's not 0% either. Starting a service to make it less useful is a bad idea per se, however well intentioned.@boyter