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(DIR) Post #ARG8gqqpPp7P37NYci by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T07:42:11.523464Z
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Man, the StarLabs StarFighter is so fucking tempting. I want to waste money on it even though I definitely don't need it.
(DIR) Post #ARG9CdG7UBtAA2MZY8 by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T07:47:57.804160Z
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I mean it's basically a 16" Macbook chassis, with a 6800H, removable webcam, physical kill switch, 165Hz display option, coreboot, and official linux support.High-end non-ODM Linux laptops are something that just hasn't existed until now.
(DIR) Post #ARG9Efh5P6KII9wt4i by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T07:48:21.919969Z
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That said, even for what I presume to be a low-volume product, the price is rather extreme for something without a dGPU
(DIR) Post #ARG9X5nH6VpiS3cxGq by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T07:51:39.482505Z
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But thank god it doesn't have an Nvidia GPU like all the Clevo crap. I don't care how much copium you're on, Nvidia + Linux is just a bad experience, especially in a laptop.For all I know maybe it's just impossible for a small laptop manufacturer like starlabs to get access to laptop GPUs. AMD laptop GPUs are kind of rare in the first place, even in Windows machines.
(DIR) Post #ARGBFpCDlCUdxbBoK8 by Miaourt@raru.re
2023-01-03T08:10:56Z
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@quad well, when you look at the radeon 680 inside, you're not too missing on gpu performance trust me lol, look at this RDNA 2 beast
(DIR) Post #ARGDi8fT9rkqMqV0Qi by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:38:28.116608Z
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@Miaourt The 680M iGPU is plenty of any laptop gaming I'd imagine doing. I mean I own a Steam Deck, so if it runs on that it definitely runs on the 680MBut this is also like a 3000 EUR laptop, not an ultrabook
(DIR) Post #ARGEASxbIxdtPaUHU8 by simon@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:22:03.796208Z
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@quad I paid almost the same for my Tuxedo Aura 15 and didn't get Thunderbold. Although with adding warranty and similar specs I arrive at over 3k, oh no.
(DIR) Post #ARGEATksLl3dsPXdI0 by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:43:34.328979Z
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@simon What specs does your Aura 15 have?Besides the standard chassis features like the HiDPI 90Hz screen, my InifnityBook Pro Gen6 has:i7-11370HNo Nvidia GPU16 GB RAMSamsung 980 512GB PCI-E 4.0 SSDANSI keyboardI think I paid about 1500 EUR for it before Norwegian import fees, but too lazy to find the receipt to double check right now
(DIR) Post #ARGEF9LNfKye1JqMoS by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:44:28.614284Z
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@simon s/Samsung 980/Samsung 980 Pro/
(DIR) Post #ARGEZxQz8lxJAGO3e4 by simon@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:45:59.433027Z
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@quad 1.472,00 EUR
(DIR) Post #ARGEZxzj3bkEu0dnnM by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:48:11.543891Z
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@simon That's pretty good.Starlab cheats a little bit on the price with the base model being an i3. You have to add at least like 700 EUR (I see prices in NOK so guesstimating here) to get a decent base model.At the same time, the StarFighter does have a bonkers screen, and supposedly build. Not to mention lots of custom features like the detachable webcam.I own a Starlabs Starlite, which is my secondary laptop/netbook, and even that much cheaper thing has rock solid build quality
(DIR) Post #ARGFFnNSvCRw8WgsIS by simon@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:51:40.143998Z
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@quad I can run with CPU locked at minimal clock speed without any issues and still play Minecraft at 1080p. Lots of ram was the most importand decision because I am used to running multiple ff instances with dozens of tabs ^^Also I intentionally choose a model with a modem and without any dGPU. I kinda missed the modem before and couldn't be bothered to mess around with prime any more.
(DIR) Post #ARGFFnxcklNBwfbkem by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T08:55:45.816816Z
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@simon Mine is overkill for my use, because Tuxedo only had the i7-11370H option with an ANSI keyboard. Otherwise I'd be fine with the classic i5-1135G7 or something. But the overkill CPU has come in handy for Gentoo updates. Same with the SSD. I only use like 30 GB of it, everything is stored on my NAS and I access my files over the network. The 512GB SSD was just the cheapest one that was PCI-E 4.0I also intentionally made sure to chose one without a dGPU though. Becasue Linux laptops with AMD dGPUs aren't really a thing and Nvidia can just go jump out the window.
(DIR) Post #ARGFvRvn365LmgbkGm by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:03:16.157513Z
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@simon Frankly I don't care a whole lot about specs anyhow. What I care about tends to be very hard to find in the generic Clevo Linux laptops.Which is mainly a HiDPI, bright and taller than 16:9 display.A good trackpad and keyboard, preferrably a nipple as well.Metal build.Half-decent non-Nvidia GPU performance (enough for some simple 900p low-medium on-the-go gaming)At least one TB / USB 4 port (I have an eGPU)Most of which are near impossible to find on Linux laptops.
(DIR) Post #ARGGDBQd8ylFoaUOQ4 by simon@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:00:49.572730Z
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@quad I am the total opposite in terms of distro hopping and disposable configurations. Everything on my Laptop almost a decade worth of configuring and dist upgrading. And backed up to 2 locations because I am paranoid af. If my Laptop dies I would probably need months to recover without any backup. And still with backup it would take a good week.Although most of the important data is inside my nextcloud and most of the folders inside my home folder are software repositories.
(DIR) Post #ARGGDC3ymgEjmctoki by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:06:29.434896Z
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@simon My computers are all borderline stateless.I can install a new OS, add some ssh keys and a few packages and config files, then mount my NAS.After that I'm pretty much good to go. Files are all on my NAS. And applications are self-hosted on my Pi cluster where possible (for example WebDAV/KeeWeb for KeePass, FreshRSS for RSS reading, etc). There's a few local apps I use, like FreeTube and Emulators that might have to be configured however.
(DIR) Post #ARGGGLzUKX6VRSIzxo by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:07:06.025484Z
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@simon If one of my computers explodes the most annoying part is usually just not having backed up its ssh keys
(DIR) Post #ARGGNvdQCkic17b0oy by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:08:26.490400Z
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@simon Maybe some game saves. But most games delivered through platforms like Steam will auto-backup their saves.
(DIR) Post #ARGGUSKHZX3L92kwiW by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-03T09:09:11.164785Z
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@quad once i'm getting my paycheck i'm getting one fuck meimage.png
(DIR) Post #ARGGbM0DTvJPYkexrU by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:10:52.172105Z
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@hj It's so damn tempting, but also so expensive, and I don't need one.bUT I WANT IT SO BAD
(DIR) Post #ARGGgkbJS9RVIWaJ3Q by yangwenli@cawfee.club
2023-01-03T09:11:46.810829Z
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@quad @simon except dark souls 3 for some reason
(DIR) Post #ARGGkxhMhMMj4sQKDw by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-03T09:12:32.050298Z
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@quad the thing is i don't have my own laptop and i already plan on geting one this year...
(DIR) Post #ARGGo4wGEfxSOxsRjk by vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch
2023-01-03T09:13:20.980140Z
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@quad the super key is called super, that's the real treat
(DIR) Post #ARGHKsQLmn0390agO8 by siina@fedi.criminallycute.fi
2023-01-03T09:15:50.979072Z
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@hj @quad that is an amazing laptop wtf.
(DIR) Post #ARGHKsyNkGDoqYVrQu by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:19:04.763376Z
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@siina @hj Starlabs makes good entirely original (Read: Not Clevo or TongFeng) laptops designed for Linux: https://no.starlabs.systems/I considered their StarBook next to my current laptop.I also own a StarLite as my secondary laptop/netbook and it's very built (although iGPU perf on that thing's CPU is bad)The main drawback is that they can be expensive as heck. But you usually get what you pay for. They're launching their top-end StarFighter laptop later this year and it's up for pre-orders now.
(DIR) Post #ARGHTHNsrtb0sERZNQ by benis@cawfee.club
2023-01-03T09:20:37.336038Z
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@quad ackchewally ☝️ Ubuntu is an option on Dell Precision laptops
(DIR) Post #ARGHU9ui83wLzgDY2a by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:20:48.196907Z
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@yangwenli @simon Probably up to the devs not implementing it? https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/cloud
(DIR) Post #ARGHXJX4p5Ukh8fRPk by yangwenli@cawfee.club
2023-01-03T09:21:23.083093Z
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@quad @simon you mean publisher. Bandai Namco is retarded
(DIR) Post #ARGHb8NMFHXfFcwWfY by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:22:02.468143Z
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@benis And? This is a laptop designed for Linux. You can even get it corebooted and with a GUI application in Linux to manage coreboot settings for it.This isn't a Windows laptop with an extra driver repo and testing for Linux. It's a laptop designed from the scratch to support Linux first.
(DIR) Post #ARGHgWXroMPBewQdQ8 by benis@cawfee.club
2023-01-03T09:23:00.538204Z
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@quad it's a high-end non-ODM Linux laptop
(DIR) Post #ARGHiOey6H0jmYdwau by siina@fedi.criminallycute.fi
2023-01-03T09:21:21.488186Z
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@quad @hj Yea, I noticed that the price of the StarFighter is €1.592,66 :')
(DIR) Post #ARGHiP4qY3i94okbvk by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-03T09:22:39.974331Z
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@siina @quad my configuration is like ~2400 future me gonna be PISSED because i'm gonna put a deposit, not full price because no way i can pay full price beforehand even with 1 paycheck
(DIR) Post #ARGHivHinj1Wy11LRQ by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:23:27.496150Z
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@yangwenli @simon I don't know who is responsible. If they use the API it's up to the devs. (They have to poke the API a little regardless afaik)If they use Steam Auto-cloud it's probably up to whoever clicks around in the Steam Store UI as well, which I guess would be Bandai. Bandai generally does enable it for pretty much all their games though
(DIR) Post #ARGHmNDtNr7EU6sJBQ by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:24:05.627278Z
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@benis No. It's a high-end non-ODM WINDOWS laptop, which has also gotten some Linux options and testing.
(DIR) Post #ARGHzsIRAJ58caRFyK by benis@cawfee.club
2023-01-03T09:26:31.667739Z
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@quad look, I dislike Michael Dell as much as the next freetard, but we must acknowledge their existence
(DIR) Post #ARGI0as5R7k4rtSLeC by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:26:36.962877Z
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@benis Most of those Windows-focused manufacturers do not do things like regularly update BIOS specifically to help Linux or constantly publish fixes or information relevant to Linux: https://support.starlabs.systems/kb/known-issues/lite-mk-ii-pop-sound-from-speakersheck you're probably going to get support issues if you install a different distro. Meanwhile starlabs have guides on how to install a different distro on their laptops: https://support.starlabs.systems/kb/known-issues/linux-mint-20-installs-with-check-your-drivers-message
(DIR) Post #ARGI2qNQl4PDXMBqIi by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:27:04.352849Z
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@benis Don't get me wrong, the Dell XPS laptops with Linux are great.But they are still Windows laptop with Linux suppord added. Not laptops designed for Linux.
(DIR) Post #ARGI35XuMOhQaCCvDM by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T09:23:08.087809Z
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12th gen intel gets coreboot?
(DIR) Post #ARGI6on8av8bmK6qWW by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:27:47.455772Z
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@siina @hj Yeah that's a bit of a cheat as well. Because it has an i3. If you want any decent CPU like the Ryzen 7, it jumps by like 700 EUR.
(DIR) Post #ARGIRoHFhZG4GTClaS by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:31:32.505082Z
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@fluffy @benis Well not yet, the laptop launches later this year.But Starlabs does these pre-order regularly and so far they've always delivered on Coreboot promises to my knowlege, and you can freely switch between an AMI BIOS and Coreboot using fwupd
(DIR) Post #ARGIT6gWkR0he1e55c by hj@shigusegubu.club
2023-01-03T09:31:20.479135Z
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@quad @siina a bit saddened that there's only one AMD option at all
(DIR) Post #ARGIUiwxxrZuby6cb2 by siina@fedi.criminallycute.fi
2023-01-03T09:30:59.665610Z
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@quad @hj Yea I noticed when I moved it to AMD. :')
(DIR) Post #ARGIUjPgF6Xy31XYLw by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:32:06.143537Z
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@siina @hj Worst thing about these low-volume niche products is that you won't really find them on a heavily discounted outlet sale either.
(DIR) Post #ARGIbVyGcPlmNux6Zc by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:33:18.407466Z
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@hj @siina I think it's coreboot-related. The 6800H is where the coreboot efforts/interests are focused last I checked. Coreboot support on AMD isn't really the same as on Intel.At least I suspect that's what heavily limits their AMD options.
(DIR) Post #ARGJ02KTxkhHgz2JEG by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:37:44.761370Z
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@hj @siina Same with last gen, I think they only shipped 5800U laptops.
(DIR) Post #ARGJ4NqhtXJDapBLIu by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T09:37:52.927842Z
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i thought the last coreboot mobo was almost ten years ago
(DIR) Post #ARGJVLtLHStFLBH3Xk by Miaourt@raru.re
2023-01-03T09:43:24Z
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@quad right lol
(DIR) Post #ARGKF05Eh9wN1abVz6 by yangwenli@cawfee.club
2023-01-03T09:51:41.641523Z
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@quad @simon whoever caused this is a dickhead as i have to copy save files around just for this one game
(DIR) Post #ARGKQJfIEQIwwPri0e by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:53:41.223634Z
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@fluffy @benis Well it pretty much was. But Starlabs comitted to corebooting a bunch of their products in 2021. I think they've finished 3 or 4 of them. System 76 has also corebooted some of their clevo machines I think.
(DIR) Post #ARGKhdkOoqXc9GVx4q by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T09:56:49.284560Z
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@fluffy @benis Apparently they're currently corebooting their 5th model it seems
(DIR) Post #ARGKkgaKj1n1omG57w by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T09:56:28.624881Z
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that's really greati had heard that some people were trying a few years ago but someone told me that it turned out to not be a real coreboot. really cool that it worked out!
(DIR) Post #ARGKzh9EukIjuLk5eS by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T10:00:06.875857Z
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@fluffy @benis Define "real coreboot"I think that at least for AMD models they still need to load some AMD blob or whatever for the chipset or CPU. But the other stuff is corebooted.Coreboot is weird. So it's not 100% FOSS like some old librebooted thinkpad. But still, better than pure proprietary crap
(DIR) Post #ARGL8AsmFJfmRc5N1E by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T10:01:38.817224Z
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@fluffy @benis For example here's some Phoronix article about the Intel models
(DIR) Post #ARGL9jTz5aTc2oERLE by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T10:01:14.062024Z
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oh huhso then what's the advantage if you're still loading proprietary blobs
(DIR) Post #ARGLPrB6FHYMXp5Tk0 by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T10:04:48.969115Z
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@fluffy @benis It's still coreboot, so the firmware doing most of the boot procedure itself is open and you are loading fewer blobs afaik.Baby steps.
(DIR) Post #ARGLTS8JIupC1kUtqy by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T10:03:45.927555Z
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does it still have those IME and other backdoors people warn about?
(DIR) Post #ARGLsPf5d5FHbOjQDw by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-03T10:09:57.705667Z
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AFAIK modern intel processors simply will not run without the ME. It's so bad that you need to wire it to a specific memory address and it's the FIRST thing that loads, pre-bios.
(DIR) Post #ARGMPMTMVWmNGdxP5E by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-01-03T10:15:54.953413Z
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The Chromebook team did a bunch of work on this, they hated it. It wants to also be able to write to that flash location. They made it accept but discard those write ops.
(DIR) Post #ARGO72mNBj4OsxF6MS by Polychrome@poly.cybre.city
2023-01-03T10:35:02.260348Z
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@quad @siina @hj what the heck what the fsck that is great I want one - tho I dont need it but the heart wants what it wants and it wants this)
(DIR) Post #ARGVt7hAudQtiBgUOO by hellpie@raru.re
2023-01-03T11:40:40Z
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@quad at first I thought "kinda shit that it doesn't have a GPU for a high refresh monitor" but then I saw the warranty options and at this point even an actual Mac is a better option.
(DIR) Post #ARGVt8HgisdjXQleIy by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T12:02:09.558016Z
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@hellpie To be fair, they are a small UK company. Their warranty logistics are probably hell. Especially since their warranty is pretty unique.
(DIR) Post #ARGYTYCy12bQGz3JnU by brad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T12:31:09.199627Z
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@fluffy @quad @benis slightly less proprietary than default, possibly better software / more features. You need blobs in the kernel for basically all modern GPUs regardless of how free the driver is also. If you're looking to avoid these issues I would just steer clear of x86 stuff entirely. I don't think it's ever going to get better.
(DIR) Post #ARGbMPVqFNaf8iATFw by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T12:59:54.866703Z
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the issue is IME. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#Security_vulnerabilitiesi had been thinking (mastakenly?) that people wanted free software firmware to mitigate it
(DIR) Post #ARGbNuxMpBrox0lGZU by brad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T13:03:45.581427Z
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@fluffy @benis @quad Yeah, I'm aware of IME. Only really removeable on stuff like the X200 era ThinkPads or some old AMD motherboards. I would suggest going with ARM or RISC-V instead of hoping modern x86 stuff will be saved.From what I've heard, Apple Silicon is less bad in this area.
(DIR) Post #ARGbRHch0WVu7PhCrY by brad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-03T13:04:23.808200Z
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@fluffy @benis @quad >or AMD motherboardsokay I know AMD has PSP not ME, I was thinking about things with Libreboot support and got mixed up
(DIR) Post #ARGc5ficq75mQvjIki by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-03T13:05:17.668823Z
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i wish there was a way to buy chips WITHOUT cia backdoors:sadcowboy:
(DIR) Post #ARGcn0lMTQqi9WfvZA by bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club
2023-01-03T13:19:30.508849Z
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@fluffy @benis @brad @quadyou can buy slow as shit risc-v boards backdoored by the CCP instead:blobfoxthinksmart:
(DIR) Post #ARIU9Ifs37vwnsa2Bk by fluffy@social.handholding.io
2023-01-04T10:51:46.172411Z
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ccp won't send me to a work camp for some made up thought crime
(DIR) Post #ARLIjEKl35Pln5x15k by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2023-01-05T19:28:15.106Z
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@quad@weeaboo.space Ehhhh, 6800H has Pluton, which is still very shady because microsoft has been staying stupidly silient on how it works, to the point where I've heard some MS employees working on security criticize that side of business for not saying shit.
(DIR) Post #ARSb3XY28lEMWhujei by quad@weeaboo.space
2023-01-09T07:56:36.157719Z
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@ignaloidas Didn't know it had pluton.Though honestly, all x86 CPUs are probably going to end up with it as Microsoft still rules the PC world. Doesn't mean I like it however.Hopefully RISC-V stuff drops in price sooner rather than later.
(DIR) Post #ARSs9Xyd9mBCobnxKq by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2023-01-09T11:08:05Z
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@quad @ignaloidas AFAIU from [1], AMD CPUs "having Pluton" isn't them including some black-box chip designed by Microsoft, it's more like the AMD PSP - which was already present in older AMD CPUs - now implementing more features to meet some "Pluton Specification" Microsoft set out.So what is the main concern here, other than "we don't know if this new PSP isn't more evil than the old harmless PSP" ?[1]: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17585/amd-zen-4-ryzen-9-7950x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-review-retaking-the-high-end/6
(DIR) Post #ARSvuoBmztlyZNBffs by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2023-01-09T11:50:20.507Z
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@wolf480pl@mstdn.io @quad@weeaboo.space IDK, the early "marketing" from MS has been all about how it's designed by them and is running firmware written by them - this whole thing needs a lot more transparency IMO, because it's all horribly unclear.